Japan perfects DRM! Humiliates you instead of suing you - Games

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21064461]Yeah, because every pirate is some evil thief; never people who want to try out games with out trials/demos or want to enjoy something they can't afford (like me) or fuck me; refuse to pay for bullshit DRM ridden ass like Assassin's Creed 2 (which I plan to get on xbox)[/QUOTE] Pirating is pirating.

[QUOTE=Soldier32;21064765]I wonder how this will work out for people who own the game but the disc got scratched up so they download it and get hit with this even though they are legally allowed to download it since they own it.[/QUOTE] You ARN'T allowed to legally download it if you fucking own it. Because you're UPLOADING to people who DON'T own it. Besides, if the ACTA act is in place. . They'll just shut off your internet even though you do own the cd. [editline]11:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Pteradactyl;21064782]Pirating is pirating.[/QUOTE] he said evil thief. i once rolled a chaotic good thief yo

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21064461]Yeah, because every pirate is some evil thief; never people who want to try out games with out trials/demos or want to enjoy something they can't afford (like me) or fuck me; refuse to pay for bullshit DRM ridden ass like Assassin's Creed 2 (which I plan to get on xbox)[/QUOTE] Oh man, guys I really wanted this new sports car but when I took it from the dealership they had me arrested. WTF, I couldn't afford it and wanted to enjoy it. This is bullshit! :downs: (Although technically it would be more like having an infinitely large public manufacturing plants making the sports cars from unlicensed plans and giving them out for free...) This is pretty funny, you can really see the kind of strange Japanese sweatballs who have tried to download the game just from their weird as fuck desktops.

[QUOTE=Soren;21064844]You ARN'T allowed to legally download it if you fucking own it. Because you're UPLOADING to people who DON'T own it. Besides, if the ACTA act is in place. . They'll just shut off your internet even though you do own the cd. [editline]11:06PM[/editline] he said evil thief. i once rolled a chaotic good thief yo[/QUOTE] You only upload it if you use a torrent. A normal download wouldn't upload the file to someone else, someone else already did that.

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21064461]Yeah, because every pirate is some evil thief; never people who want to try out games with out trials/demos or want to enjoy something they can't afford (like me) or fuck me; refuse to pay for bullshit DRM ridden ass like Assassin's Creed 2 (which I plan to get on xbox)[/QUOTE] if you don't want to pay for it then don't that doesn't give you the right to fucking download the game for free

[QUOTE=Technopath;21064534]- Downloading company data without their knowledge - Playing with said data without their consent - Bragging about it on the internet An eye for an eye... :v:[/QUOTE] If this was a fake installer then the "pirate" could not actually have done anything illegal. [highlight]Clearly distinguishing suspect from guilty is a cornerstone of justice.[/highlight]

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21064461]Yeah, because every pirate is some evil thief; never people who want to try out games with out trials/demos or want to enjoy something they can't afford (like me) or fuck me; refuse to pay for bullshit DRM ridden ass like Assassin's Creed 2 (which I plan to get on xbox)[/QUOTE] this is not the reason you should oppose this type of DRM

[QUOTE=Im Crimson;21065994]If this was a fake installer then the "pirate" could not actually have done anything illegal. [highlight]Clearly distinguishing suspect from guilty is a cornerstone of justice.[/highlight][/QUOTE] Well their intent was to commit a crime, and chances are there was an agreement in the installer which explained the real purpose of the program within miles of EULA-looking text, taking advantage of the fact that just about nobody reads those things anymore. (Remember when they were practically a paragraph of "Please be nice"?)

[QUOTE=cheesedelux;21066516]Well their intent was to commit a crime, and chances are there was an agreement in the installer which explained the real purpose of the program within miles of EULA-looking text, taking advantage of the fact that just about nobody reads those things anymore. (Remember when they were practically a paragraph of "Please be nice"?)[/QUOTE] i hope to fucking god you never become a lawyer.

[QUOTE=Lazor;21065897]if you don't want to pay for it then don't that doesn't give you the right to fucking download the game for free[/QUOTE] Point is, why can't poor people not be able to enjoy the same as you do? Why do legit players have to deal with bullshit DRM?

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21067161]Point is, why can't poor people not be able to enjoy the same as you do? Why do legit players have to deal with bullshit DRM?[/QUOTE] Because of pirates like you. [editline]06:03PM[/editline] That's the fucking problem, you think you're all high and noble by not torrenting their games, but you're only fueling their reasons to try and stop you assholes from effectively stealing their money, SURE the games are pretty expensive, 20 dollars would be fucking great for full price games, but no, it's 50-60 dollars because 1.) They know they can get away with it and 2.) Because of pirates who will steal their profit, so they try to offset the loss by making it more expensive. It's a viscous cycle, that you can't really blame companies for trying, they need to do SOMETHING to keep their hard-fucking-work from going to waste. [editline]06:04PM[/editline] no offense

[QUOTE=cheesedelux;21065271]Oh man, guys I really wanted this new sports car but when I took it from the dealership they had me arrested. WTF, I couldn't afford it and wanted to enjoy it. This is bullshit! :downs: (Although technically it would be more like having an infinitely large public manufacturing plants making the sports cars from unlicensed plans and giving them out for free...) This is pretty funny, you can really see the kind of strange Japanese sweatballs who have tried to download the game just from their weird as fuck desktops.[/QUOTE] Yes let's compare something easily broken and costs a fortune to a $60 organization of bytes on a small platter. :downs:

[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;21068084]Yes let's compare something easily broken and costs a fortune to a $60 organization of bytes on a small platter. :downs:[/QUOTE] It isn't like the worth of an item matters when you're trying to make an example like he did

Good humiliation would be allowing pirates to play multiplayer but changing their heads into floppy dicks or something, this isn't a good idea.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21067397]Because of pirates like you. [editline]06:03PM[/editline] That's the fucking problem, you think you're all high and noble by not torrenting their games, but you're only fueling their reasons to try and stop you assholes from effectively stealing their money, SURE the games are pretty expensive, 20 dollars would be fucking great for full price games, but no, it's 50-60 dollars because 1.) They know they can get away with it and 2.) Because of pirates who will steal their profit, so they try to offset the loss by making it more expensive. It's a viscous cycle, that you can't really blame companies for trying, they need to do SOMETHING to keep their hard-fucking-work from going to waste. [editline]06:04PM[/editline] no offense[/QUOTE] Right, because making an erotic visual novel is "hard-fucking-work" also it's not going to waste, they are getting publicity, all publicity is good publicity. Also this: "you assholes" what? Yeah, I say you're the asshole. I don't say pirating is good but to invade the privacy of the people is just stupid. Piracy won't hurt any major company at all. If it hurts anyone, it's the new companies that are starting up even then a lot of those companies are bought by the bigger corporations or just can't compete.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21067397]Because of pirates like you. [editline]06:03PM[/editline] That's the fucking problem, you think you're all high and noble by not torrenting their games, but you're only fueling their reasons to try and stop you assholes from effectively stealing their money, SURE the games are pretty expensive, 20 dollars would be fucking great for full price games, but no, it's 50-60 dollars because 1.) They know they can get away with it and 2.) Because of pirates who will steal their profit, so they try to offset the loss by making it more expensive. It's a viscous cycle, that you can't really blame companies for trying, they need to do SOMETHING to keep their hard-fucking-work from going to waste. [editline]06:04PM[/editline] no offense[/QUOTE] Your logic on how profits work is flawed. 99% of the people who pirate games would otherwise never pay for the game, and once they pirated it never buy it afterwards. Thus, the company isn't loosing fuck all.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21068201]It isn't like the worth of an item matters when you're trying to make an example like he did[/QUOTE] Actually it kinda does.

[QUOTE=itchyflakes;21068282]Right, because making an erotic visual novel is "hard-fucking-work" also it's not going to waste, they are getting publicity, all publicity is good publicity. Also this: "you assholes" what? Yeah, I say you're the asshole. I don't say pirating is good but to invade the privacy of the people is just stupid. Piracy won't hurt any major company at all. If it hurts anyone, it's the new companies that are starting up even then a lot of those companies are bought by the bigger corporations or just can't compete.[/QUOTE] I never said I was for this kind of DRM [editline]07:00PM[/editline] [QUOTE=FunnyGamer;21068523]Actually it kinda does.[/QUOTE] Point is, they're still stealing things

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21068536]I never said I was for this kind of DRM [editline]07:00PM[/editline] Point is, they're still stealing things[/QUOTE] Except one thing costs more than an arm, a leg, a kidney, and a liver, while you can buy the other after a day's worth of work.

[quote=doommarine23;21067161]point is, why can't poor people not be able to enjoy the same as you do? Why do legit players have to deal with bullshit drm?[/quote] hey reality check, gaming is a luxery not a right! Drm is because people thing gaming is a right and pirate!

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21067397]Because of pirates like you. [editline]06:03PM[/editline] That's the fucking problem, you think you're all high and noble by not torrenting their games, but you're only fueling their reasons to try and stop you assholes from effectively stealing their money, SURE the games are pretty expensive, 20 dollars would be fucking great for full price games, but no, it's 50-60 dollars because 1.) They know they can get away with it and 2.) Because of pirates who will steal their profit, so they try to offset the loss by making it more expensive. It's a viscous cycle, that you can't really blame companies for trying, they need to do SOMETHING to keep their hard-fucking-work from going to waste. [editline]06:04PM[/editline] no offense[/QUOTE] Still, the point is, what they're doing [I]isn't working. [/I]Most of their "hardcore" DRM is cracked within days, and sometimes actually before release. And most of the crappy bugs and tedious installation and start up procedures just drive actual paying customers to piracy, because they don't have to deal with that sort of bull just to play a goddamn game.

I bet it's not hard to crack it.

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21064461]Yeah, because [B]every pirate is some evil thief[/B]; never people who want to [B]try out games with out trials/demos[/B] or want to[B] enjoy something they can't afford (like me) or fuck me; refuse to pay for bullshit DRM ridden ass[/B] like Assassin's Creed 2 (which I plan to get on xbox)[/QUOTE] Look at me, I'm a rebellious fuck that thinks just because I cannot afford a game, it gives me legal right to pirate it because 'I would have bought it anyway'. If you don't like the DRM, don't pirate games, because in doing so, you lead the developers to put this lock on the games. The demos, trials and even the DRM are there for a reason, to keep people from stealing their hard earned money. How would you feel if 50000 teenagers stole your profit? The fact of the matter is, yes,[I] every [/I]pirate is a thief.[U] Whether or not the pirate does these illegal acts in hopes that it is just, is another story.[/U] So next time you think of pirating a game you can't afford, mabye you should save up the money like everyone else does, instead of 'just trying out the game', which you will [I]not[/I] buy if you have already pirated.

They may humiliate them, they may block them, but they shall never defeat them. *stock evil laughter*

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21064461]Yeah, because every pirate is some evil thief[/quote] Yeah, because being pirate [b][i]IS[/i][/b] being a thief. [QUOTE=doommarine23;21064461]Never people who want to try out games with out trials/demos or want to enjoy something they can't afford (like me) or fuck me; refuse to pay for bullshit DRM ridden ass like Assassin's Creed 2 (which I plan to get on xbox)[/QUOTE] So because you can't afford something, that somehow makes you entitled to steal it to "try it out" as you say, while the rest of have to spend our hard earned money? You pirates have the most fucked up logic I've ever witnessed. You're fooling no one but yourselves on this matter. It's BECAUSE of people like you companies had taken measures in the world of DRM, and then you complain after the fact. You're thieves, plain and simple.

People who think piracy is good in any way, become a game developer and speak then.

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21067161]Point is, why can't poor people not be able to enjoy the same as you do? Why do legit players have to deal with bullshit DRM?[/QUOTE] Why? Because of your fucked up mentality of "entitlement" beliefs. Sure, I can understand you want to enjoy the same thing people with the money to spend on stuff do, so you know what you do? Go get a fucking job like the rest of us and start saving money, and actually contribute something of worth to society instead of taking away from all the hard work developers put into creating these worlds for you. It's called life, get used to it.

[QUOTE=doommarine23;21067161]Point is, why can't poor people not be able to enjoy the same as you do? Why do legit players have to deal with bullshit DRM?[/QUOTE] It's called capitalism.

[QUOTE=Evanlution;21077439]It's called capitalism.[/QUOTE] No, it's called 'Gaming is not a fucking right.'.

I love how you are all for the DRM, but I can suppose at least several of you are downloading music when it's not under good conditions for the consumer, like for video games. And it's stupid if it's only on PC, consoles should have DRM too because they are more pirated than PC games. Not saying the piracy is good and any stuff like that but hell, when you are frustrating legit consumers, it's all your fault. Because you did not follow the fundamentals rights between the trader and the consumer, you can't blame the pirates directly. I buy games since long time, and I enjoy it, but I wouldn't want to pirate because the bullshit DRM (Constant Internet Connection, limit activation, etc...) could more and more represented in all games. Yeah yeah, money, money. I can understand if you are a small developer and something like that. Not when you are a big buisness-man with lots of money every month.