[quote]To be honest this is something I didn't expect sony to do. They really are just ur typical "don't give a damn about the consumer" company. Funny they will preach differently in ads etc[/quote]
Lol, looks like some pirates are getting pissy that they won't have a chance to pirate any ps3 games. Also apparently, on the EU Sony Blog they posted that this isn't an April Fools joke. It's really is no big deal/no big lost.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;21032407]No. You can only use Linux and other OS's that support the Cell architecture.
Windows is shit and only supports x86.[/QUOTE]
Funny that, I happen to be running it on a x64 CPU now with no problems.
While I do not agree with the removing this feature, there isn't really much we can do about it, and the only people who used it would be doing so for a certain reason, which means they probably won't update as they don't use the PS3 OS anyway.
[QUOTE=djjkxbox;21032007]April fools! I highly think this is an April fools joke[/QUOTE]
I highly think Sony is watching how big the shitstorm about this is and if it's too big pass it off as an early April Fool's joke and if it isn't release the update.[QUOTE=Kalkka;21032299]BREAKING NEWS: Due to a security breach, Sony has released an update to the Playstation 3 firmware which removes the ability of users to play games.[/QUOTE]
Replacement for "Australia bans ..." anyone?
Even though I rarely use OtherOS, out of principle I refuse to update until I absolutely need PSN.
Unless it's an april fool's joke, which I hope it is.
Can I ask the many PS3 users from the PlayStation Community thread who actually fucking uses Linux on their console?
I've had the console since launch (November 2006) and have never once used the feature. So I ask the same question to the other users, who honestly truly cares? I can probably safely say less than 1% of PS3 owners used this feature.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;21033293]Can I ask the many PS3 users from the PlayStation Community thread who actually fucking uses Linux on their console?
I've had the console since launch (November 2006) and have never once used the feature. So I ask the same question to the other users, who honestly truly cares? I can probably safely say less than 1% of PS3 owners used this feature.[/QUOTE]
I run linux on mine to use a few emulators but that's about it.
And to fuck around on GIMP
[QUOTE=hexpunK;21032771]Funny that, I happen to be running it on a x64 CPU now with no problems.
While I do not agree with the removing this feature, there isn't really much we can do about it, and the only people who used it would be doing so for a certain reason, which means they probably won't update as they don't use the PS3 OS anyway.[/QUOTE]x64 is also known as x86-64 which is a 64-bit extension of x86-32 which is a 32-bit extension of x86.
Anyways, while I don't have a PS3, I don't like seeing things like this happen. Piracy seems to be an excuse to alienate users these days, removing features isn't going to stop piracy from taking place. All that is going to happen is the pirates are going to stay on the vulnerable firmware until the games start implementing higher firmware requirements, then the pirates find a way around them, and it starts a cycle that wastes resources and time on 'security updates'. Updates that could have given more features to legitimate users.
It's already happened before with the PSP and Wii, where although homebrew itself is harmless and homebrew developers discourage piracy, it occurs, and companies start an endless fight with the pirates.
[QUOTE=leach139;21033012]Even though I rarely use OtherOS, out of principle I refuse to update until I absolutely need PSN.
Unless it's an april fool's joke, which I hope it is.[/QUOTE]
That would accomplish nothing. You not updating right away isn't gonna make Sony feel bad.
When I bought a launch PS3 one of the listed features included in the price tag was the ability to install Linux. They can't just fucking take it away, this is bullshit.
Knew it.
Thanks Geohot.
Keep useless shit to yourself in the future.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21034109]When I bought a launch PS3 one of the listed features included in the price tag was the ability to install Linux. They can't just fucking take it away, this is bullshit.[/QUOTE]
And did you install Linux?
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;21033293]Can I ask the many PS3 users from the PlayStation Community thread who actually fucking uses Linux on their console?
I've had the console since launch (November 2006) and have never once used the feature. So I ask the same question to the other users, who honestly truly cares? I can probably safely say less than 1% of PS3 owners used this feature.[/QUOTE]
If it is only 1% then they don't need take it away from that 1%.
[QUOTE=cornndog;21034452]If it is only 1% then they don't need take it away from that 1%.[/QUOTE]
An insignificant loss.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;21033293]Can I ask the many PS3 users from the PlayStation Community thread who actually fucking uses Linux on their console?
I've had the console since launch (November 2006) and have never once used the feature. So I ask the same question to the other users, who honestly truly cares? I can probably safely say less than 1% of PS3 owners used this feature.[/QUOTE]
Main side of the argument summed up right here
Out of everyone I know with a PS3, not one uses this feature.
I could care less if they removed it.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;21034483]An insignificant loss.[/QUOTE]
An unnecessary loss.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;21034483]An insignificant loss.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty pissed off, one of the main reasons I got PS3 was to install linux and I have been using it ever since. Sony is encouraging hackers to hack the PS3 to bring this functionality back.
1% is not considered collateral, thus justifying their decision of removal. This whole situation seems strangely reminiscent of the strange USB port ordeal the PS2 went through. Anyone remember this?
[img]http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/ps2.jpg[/img]
It was an extra feature they added in the hopes of it being implemented or used widely in some way. If I recall, it was only used for some very minuscule features that were not widely implemented, this prompting it's removal in later generations of the PS2 (it also saved on manufacturing costs so it was a double whammy). My PS2 has one of these ports, I'm still not quite sure what the hell it was meant for. Shit like this happens all the time to consoles during their lifetimes. You could apply this same logic to Linux.
In this case, it hasn't been widely embraced as a viable alternative, and according to articles and recent developments, it now opens the door to a security flaw. So there you go.
The moment they decide to remove backwards compatibility from my 60GB, then I'll kick up hell.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;21034709]
The moment they decide to remove backwards compatibility from my 60GB, then I'll kick up hell.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure there's less people with backwards compatibility than people using Linux.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;21034709]1% is not considered collateral, thus justifying their decision of removal. This whole situation seems strangely reminiscent of the strange USB port ordeal the PS2 went through. Anyone remember this?
[img]http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/ps2.jpg[/img]
It was an extra feature they added in the hopes of it being implemented or used widely in some way. If I recall, it was only used for some very minuscule features that were not widely implemented, this prompting it's removal in later generations of the PS2 (it also saved on manufacturing costs so it was a double whammy). My PS2 has one of these ports, I'm still not quite sure what the hell it was meant for. Shit like this happens all the time to consoles during their lifetimes. You could apply this same logic to Linux.
In this case, it hasn't been widely embraced as a viable alternative, and according to articles and recent developments, it now opens the door to a security flaw. So there you go.
The moment they decide to remove backwards compatibility from my 60GB, then I'll kick up hell.[/QUOTE]
I remember using the USB ports for Eye Toy, and the microphone for SOCOM.
They never did anything with the i.Link port though, only a few games used it.
I also remember certain games being able to use a keyboard and mouse.
Also, the USB ports were useful for anyone that had Linux on their PS2.
[QUOTE=cornndog;21034769]I'm pretty sure there's less people with backwards compatibility than people using Linux.[/QUOTE]
You're telling me the nearly 3 to 4 million consoles they sold during it's launch period to second generation PS3's is less than the people that use Linux? That's funny.
[QUOTE=cornndog;21034769]I'm pretty sure there's less people with backwards compatibility than people using Linux.[/QUOTE]
Probably the most baseless and ridiculous suggestion I've seen in weeks.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21034109]When I bought a launch PS3 one of the listed features included in the price tag was the ability to install Linux. They can't just fucking take it away, this is bullshit.[/QUOTE]
If they took away PS2 emulation through software, I think they would probably do this without giving it a second thought too. Not quite the same I know, but still, the PS2 software emulator required little to no extra investment.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;21035372]If they took away PS2 emulation through software, I think they would probably do this without giving it a second thought too. Not quite the same I know, but still, the PS2 software emulator required little to no extra investment.[/QUOTE]
PS2 still sells though.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;21035372]If they took away PS2 emulation through software, I think they would probably do this without giving it a second thought too. Not quite the same I know, but still, the PS2 software emulator required little to no extra investment.[/QUOTE]
The PS3s that support software emulation still have an Emotion Engine. They just stripped the Graphics Synthesizer from these.
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[QUOTE=Hypothermic;21035414]PS2 still sells though.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Sony could probably give their PS2 sales a boost that way :/
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;21035550]The PS3s that support software emulation still have an Emotion Engine. They just stripped the Graphics Synthesizer from these.
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Exactly. Sony could probably give their PS2 sales a boost that way :/[/QUOTE]
I was sure they only had a software emulator in some models (which is why barely anything ran at a playable level).
[QUOTE=s0m3_guy;21031107]I jumped on the PS3 waggon late so I`m stuck with a slim unti I get a fat, I`m just commenting for now.[/QUOTE]
so in other words you have no idea what you're talking about
[QUOTE=hexpunK;21035940]I was sure they only had a software emulator in some models (which is why barely anything ran at a playable level).[/QUOTE]
Yes, some PS3 models only have software emulation. It works fairly well and most games work perfectly with it but sometimes you'll come across a game that is glitchy or just won't work at all.
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[QUOTE=cornndog;21034769]I'm pretty sure there's less people with backwards compatibility than people using Linux.[/QUOTE]
Wow, that's stupid. You don't honestly believe that do you?
[QUOTE=hexpunK;21035940]I was sure they only had a software emulator in some models (which is why barely anything ran at a playable level).[/QUOTE]
Wait, sorry, I misunderstood this. I thought original PS3s had both the EE and the GS and the GS was removed in the later ones, but it seems that the EE was removed in those and I now doubt the PS3 ever had a GS. Oops.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;21032771]Funny that, I happen to be running it on a x64 CPU now with no problems.
While I do not agree with the removing this feature, there isn't really much we can do about it, and the only people who used it would be doing so for a certain reason, which means they probably won't update as they don't use the PS3 OS anyway.[/QUOTE]
x64 isn't an architecture. It's an extension of x86. The "proper" name is x86_64.
x86 doesn't even imply 32-bit.
What the hell is everyone bitching about. Why the fuck do you want linux on your PS3 anyways.
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