RUSE to use Ubishit DRM. - Games

[QUOTE=Evil_Toaster;20912013]I honestly don't understand how any of you could justify DRM like this.[/QUOTE] Because I'm always connected to the internet and I don't really care that I have to go the extra step. Honestly whiny fucks like you guys are exactly why I would take no issue with PC gaming just dying. It's not really that bad and works when immature twats aren't DDOSing their servers. I don't think it's that bad to be honest with you, it's just that people are making mountains out of molehills. [QUOTE=ADT;20911969] It's the Ubisoft's fault. When you impose something really big, you really need to do this shit right.[/QUOTE] This is the exact same argument as "Games shouldn't be prettier/more hardware intensive because I have a shitty computer." Having a shitty ISP is your problem, not Ubisoft's.

ITT: DRM is shit, if their servers or my connection goes down I won't be able to play my game. If they shut down servers for old games I won't be able to go back to them. DRM scares off people, many of those who wanted to buy these games, resigned from doing so after they've found out about DRM. versus It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. I don't think you fanboys realize but this DRM doesn't protect their product. Every DRM is going to be cracked. And when it does, only those who bought the game will suffer from this. So the situation looks like that, pirates will have to wait a while longer - those who bought the game will have to deal with DRM. When I buy a game I expect to install and play it whenever I want. Also Pirating -> strict DRM that hits customers -> more pirating -> more drm -> more pirating -> ??? -> not profit

[QUOTE=133753P34K;20912218]Because I'm always connected to the internet and I don't really care that I have to go the extra step. Honestly whiny fucks like you guys are exactly why I would take no issue with PC gaming just dying. It's not really that bad and works when immature twats aren't DDOSing their servers. I don't think it's that bad to be honest with you, it's just that people are making mountains out of molehills. This is the exact same argument as "Games shouldn't be prettier/more hardware intensive because I have a shitty computer." Having a shitty ISP is your problem, not Ubisoft's.[/QUOTE] It worked fine before DRM, why fuck shit up? Most pirates, if they like a game they will buy it to support the developers afterwards. :geno:

I raff I ruse no more.

[QUOTE=ADT;20911969]Oh god, you don't really understand the problem, do you? When you buy a game with your hard-earned cash money, companies should not impose some restrictions like their DRM. You own entirely the game and nothing less. It's their fault if they are so paranoid towards pirates, because pirates buy games too. Yes, you hear me exactly, and except a little group of selfish pirates, many people who downloading illegaly games, buy them too. Incredible, you think? I don't think so...[/QUOTE] You [B]do not own the game[/B]. You are [B]only[/B] licensed to use the software. How do you not understand this? And don't kid yourself, most people that pirate games do not buy them unless they have to buy them to play the multiplayer, and if you're saying they buy [I]other[/I] games then your point holds as much water as a sieve. Sure a few people do, but for the most part? No. Someone who pirates a game is not going to buy it. If you honestly believe otherwise then you've got a lot to learn about the world. [editline]01:18AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Profanwolf;20912633]It worked fine before DRM, why fuck shit up? Most pirates, if they like a game they will buy it to support the developers afterwards. :geno:[/QUOTE] No they won't. [editline]01:35AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly Sil;20912314]ITT: DRM is shit, if their servers or my connection goes down I won't be able to play my game. If they shut down servers for old games I won't be able to go back to them. DRM scares off people, many of those who wanted to buy these games, resigned from doing so after they've found out about DRM. [/QUOTE] If their servers are down play a different game, god knows if you're making this big a deal about it you own plenty more, and if you're really that upset about not being able to play your video game for a little while then you need to reevaluate your life. If your connection goes out, yet again, it's not Ubi's problem. When your power goes out is it your computer manufacturer's fault that you can't use your computer because they require electricity for it to run? No of course not. If you honestly think that any large game company would take down the DRM servers for an old game before patching out the DRM you're hilariously mistaken. [B]That[/B] would be a terrible publicity move. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;20912314] versus It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. [/QUOTE] ITT: Guy with no ability to comprehend things he reads. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;20912314] I don't think you fanboys realize but this DRM doesn't protect their product. Every DRM is going to be cracked. And when it does, only those who bought the game will suffer from this. So the situation looks like that, pirates will have to wait a while longer - those who bought the game will have to deal with DRM. When I buy a game I expect to install and play it whenever I want. [/QUOTE] 1) No fanboyism here from me. I just think it's pathetic how uppity and whiny some of you are getting over something like this. 2) DRM isn't intended to protect a product throughout it's lifetime. It's intended to prevent near release cracks (which Ubisoft's new solution seems to be doing a great job of). Why do you think you see patch notes from games weeks after release with things like "Securom removed" in them? 3) You say "Deal with the DRM" like you're trying to play from a tethered cell phone in the middle of the pacific ocean or something. I don't know a single person who has a modern enough computer to play any of these games that doesn't have a reliable broadband connection, and if it's really that big a deal, buy it and then crack the DRM. Regardless of how righteous a cause you think it may be to stick it to the big evil corporate man, you're still using software that you haven't paid for if you pirate the game. If you dislike the DRM that much try sending them a well thought out and well written email instead of whining about it on the internet and stealing their game. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;20912314] Also Pirating -> strict DRM that hits customers -> more pirating -> more drm -> more pirating -> ??? -> not profit[/QUOTE] Hey look the root cause is pirating, which obviously means that companies are going to work to prevent said pirating. Video game companies are there to make a profit, sure often times pleasing your customer base leads to that, but you can't make everyone happy. Also I think it's hilarious that you seem to think that stricter DRM is what leads to pirating. People being cheap is what leads to pirating, nothing more nothing less. I guarantee that 99% of the people who pirate games "because of evil corporate DRm!!!!" are just using it as an excuse so they feel better about what they are doing.

[QUOTE=133753P34K;20912218]tdlr; I HAVE THE BEST IPS OF ALL OF THE TIME AND NOT YOU LALALALA[/QUOTE] Well, not everyone have the best connection, and it make me rages especially when it's a-fucking-singleplayer. Why I would need Internet for playing this game ? [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20912853]You [B]do not own the game[/B]. You are [B]only[/B] licensed to use the software. How do you not understand this? And don't kid yourself, most people that pirate games do not buy them unless they have to buy them to play the multiplayer, and if you're saying they buy [I]other[/I] games then your point holds as much water as a sieve. Sure a few people do, but for the most part? No. Someone who pirates a game is not going to buy it. If you honestly believe otherwise then you've got a lot to learn about the world.[/quote] Pirates are the main source of publishing video games and make a buzz around them At least 3/4 of pirates buy games too. You seem to think when a pirate downloading illegaly, it's a lost sale. I began to think that you and 133753P34K are secret agents from Ubi and EA companies and make sure to brainwashing everyone that DRM is good. No it's not, even if I will respect your decisions. Yeah, some people don't give a damn about DRM because they don't buy games from these companies but they usually agree that DRM is the worst thing to do.

[QUOTE=ADT;20913099]Pirates are the main source of publishing video games and make a buzz around them [/QUOTE] This is hands down the most hilariously incorrect thing I have read in a long time. How can you honestly believe that is true? [QUOTE=ADT;20913099]At least 3/4 of pirates buy games too. You seem to think when a pirate downloading illegaly, it's a lost sale.[/QUOTE] Not even close, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better though. [QUOTE=ADT;20913099]I began to think that you and 133753P34K are secret agents from Ubi and EA companies and make sure to brainwashing everyone that DRM is good. No it's not, even if I will respect your decisions. [/QUOTE] ... [QUOTE=ADT;20913099]Yeah, some people don't give a damn about DRM because they don't buy games from these companies but they usually agree that DRM is the worst thing to do.[/QUOTE] They don't give a damn but they think it's the worst thing to do? You just tried to make a statement and then contradicted it in the same sentence.

I was curious about this game... Nevermind.

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20912853] If their servers are down play a different game, god knows if you're making this big a deal about it you own plenty more, and if you're really that upset about not being able to play your video game for a little while then you need to reevaluate your life. [/QUOTE] How about no? I paid for something, I want to use it. If I can't it's called a ripoff. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20912853] If your connection goes out, yet again, it's not Ubi's problem. When your power goes out is it your computer manufacturer's fault that you can't use your computer because they require electricity for it to run? No of course not.[/QUOTE] Except computer REQUIRES power to run. Single player desn't require internet connection. They are trying to force it on me. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20912853]If you honestly think that any large game company would take down the DRM servers for an old game before patching out the DRM you're hilariously mistaken. [B]That[/B] would be a terrible publicity move.[/QUOTE] I dunno. Why should I trust them if they treat me like a criminal? [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20912853] ITT: Guy with no ability to comprehend things he reads.[/QUOTE] I can go throught the thread and quote every "it's not their fault" but I have better things to do. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20912853] 3) You say "Deal with the DRM" like you're trying to play from a tethered cell phone in the middle of the pacific ocean or something. I don't know a single person who has a modern enough computer to play any of these games that doesn't have a reliable broadband connection, and if it's really that big a deal, buy it and then crack the DRM. [/QUOTE] Not everyone lives in America or other country with great internet. I live in Poland and my internet looses connection occasionally. I have friends with alot worse internet. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20912853] Hey look the root cause is pirating, which obviously means that companies are going to work to prevent said pirating. Video game companies are there to make a profit, sure often times pleasing your customer base leads to that, but you can't make everyone happy.[/QUOTE] I understand what they are doing, I'm not retarded. I just think that this kind of DRM is not the best way. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20912853] Also I think it's hilarious that you seem to think that stricter DRM is what leads to pirating. People being cheap is what leads to pirating, nothing more nothing less. I guarantee that 99% of the people who pirate games "because of evil corporate DRm!!!!" are just using it as an excuse so they feel better about what they are doing.[/QUOTE] How about people who wanted to buy and PAY for this game but when they found out about DRM they resigned? Are they beeing cheap or DRM scared them off? Guess what they will do if they still want to play this game w/o DRM?

Well I guess we enjoy the last 14 or so days left in the beta. the game has some merit but it ain't worth putting up with this crap. [editline]05:30AM[/editline] And a another thing for the people who actually support this. News Flash: [B]I[/B] buy games so that [B]I[/B] can fucking play and enjoy them when [B]I[/B] want, not be Stonewalled by DRM if I don't have an internet connection or the servers fuck up.

this is a ruse

[QUOTE=133753P34K;20911934]For the love of christ that was a DDOS attack, how is that Ubisoft's fault?[/QUOTE] It's Ubisoft's fault for implementing a DRM that is so unreliable/easy to attack.

[QUOTE=Silly;20913194]How about no? I paid for something, I want to use it. If I can't it's called a ripoff.[/QUOTE] You pay for power and your power goes out for a couple hours you don't start screaming ripoff. You pay for internet and it goes out for a couple hours you don't start screaming ripoff. [QUOTE=Silly;20913194]Except computer REQUIRES power to run. Single player desn't require internet connection. They are trying to force it on me. [/QUOTE] When you buy the game it states that it REQUIRES an internet connection to run. It's your own fault if you don't notice it and believe otherwise. [QUOTE=Silly;20913194]I can go throught the thread and quote every "it's not their fault" but I have better things to do.[/QUOTE] That would be the equivalent of me going through the thread quoting "drm sucks" "drm sucks" "drm sucks" "drm sucks". My point was that you were completely ignoring the reasons why it [I]isn't[/I] their fault. [QUOTE=Silly;20913194]I understand what they are doing, I'm not retarded. I just think that this kind of DRM is not the best way. [/QUOTE] Present a better alternative that has actually remained uncracked for as long as AC2 has. I'm not saying this is the best way, I'm saying that it's not nearly as bad as you all are making it out to be. How about people who wanted to buy and PAY for this game but when they found out about DRM they resigned? Are they beeing cheap or DRM scared them off? Guess what they will do if they still want to play this game w/o DRM?[/QUOTE] Buy it and find a crack if you have to, just because it has DRM that you don't like doesn't mean you are justified in pirating it. Stealing something because you don't like one aspect of it is downright childish, that's really all there is to it. Shall I run through the store stealing cereal and saying it's okay because I don't like how much sugar they put on it?

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20913339]You pay for power and your power goes out for a couple hours you don't start screaming ripoff. You pay for internet and it goes out for a couple hours you don't start screaming ripoff. [/QUOTE] I can't remember the last time my power went out. As for my internet connection; it is provided by the company that leases my apartment. The internet connection is shit, as is the company.

[QUOTE=David29;20913364]I can't remember the last time my power went out. As for my internet connection; it is provided by the company that leases my apartment. The internet connection is shit, as is the company.[/QUOTE] It's still a legitimate analogy. Some people live in places with shit internet, some people live in places with shit power. Such is life.

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20913373]It's still a legitimate analogy. Some people live in places with shit internet, some people live in places with shit power. Such is life.[/QUOTE] Some people choose to put up with that sort of thing, but not all - me being one. If my power was shit, I wouldn't put up with it. Likewise, if I can't play a game I have paid for, I have every right to be annoyed.

[QUOTE=David29;20913420]Some people choose to put up with that sort of thing, but not all - me being one. If my power was shit, I wouldn't put up with it. Likewise, if I can't play a game I have paid for, I have every right to be annoyed.[/QUOTE] Why do you put up with your internet being shit then? It's a service you pay for and if it's as shit as you say you can't use it fairly often.

Fucking arguments, How about the people who want to play single player games such as AC2 but have wireless/no internet?

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20913438]Why do you put up with your internet being shit then? It's a service you pay for and if it's as shit as you say you can't use it fairly often.[/QUOTE] I don't. But my internet connection is free, so there isn't really much I can do. I hate the company, but it doesn't matter because I am moving out in a few months.

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20913339]You pay for power and your power goes out for a couple hours you don't start screaming ripoff. You pay for internet and it goes out for a couple hours you don't start screaming ripoff. [/QUOTE] How do you know what do I do? If it's a one time thing I'm ok with that. But if it happens frequently I call it a ripoff, demand refund, etc etc. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20913339] When you buy the game it states that it REQUIRES an internet connection to run. It's your own fault if you don't notice it and believe otherwise. [/QUOTE] Bullshit, single player doesn't require internet connection. They are forcing it on me. I don't like it. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20913339] Present a better alternative that has actually remained uncracked for as long as AC2 has. I'm not saying this is the best way, I'm saying that it's not nearly as bad as you all are making it out to be. [/QUOTE] Assign Ubisoft employee to every copy of a game who will watch you everytime you play. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20913339] Buy it and find a crack if you have to, just because it has DRM that you don't like doesn't mean you are justified in pirating it. Stealing something because you don't like one aspect of it is downright childish, that's really all there is to it. [/QUOTE] What the fuck? Why do I have to illegaly modify a game to be able to play it? That's retarded. I buy a game I want to install it and play whenever I want. If I can't do it I call it a bullshit and I will not pay for something like that. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20913339] Shall I run through the store stealing cereal and saying it's okay because I don't like how much sugar they put on it?[/QUOTE] Idiotic comparison. How about this. A company sells awesome telephones but they work only on wednesdays and tuesdays. My neighbor is able to make exact same phones because he has copied their technology. Phones he makes work all week but have stolen technology in them. Do I buy orginal phone for 50$ or the illegal one from my neighbor for 1$ ?

Well if the DRM needs a static connection to their servers, with RUSE it won't be much of a problem because it's mainly a multiplayer game but if servers go down that would suck.

[QUOTE=David29;20897258]I like this bit: "Basically, you can only play this game with our permission - which we can revoke at any time."[/QUOTE] Steam has this paragraph too.

[QUOTE=lockdown6;20915439]too bad ubisoft's DRM has NOT BEEN CRACKED YET :siren: [highlight]PLEASE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT[/highlight] it's more like this: a company sells awesome phones that work all the time but occasionally don't your neighbour has copied them but they don't work and are pretty much just decorational do you buy the proper working phone for 50$ or the non-working one from your neighbour for 1$?[/QUOTE] Neither or I will wait until my neighbour fixes it. Either way, bullshit phone company is not going to get paid for their bullshit phones. And I haven't said that IT HAS BEEN CRACK0RD ALRDY kk ? [highlight]But it will eventually.[/highlight]

The double standards some of you guys have are pretty funny. [QUOTE=David29;20913450]I don't. But my internet connection is free, so there isn't really much I can do. I hate the company, but it doesn't matter because I am moving out in a few months.[/QUOTE] You pay for it as part of your rent it isn't "free", and apparently you do put up with it. [QUOTE=Silly;20915799]Neither or I will wait until my neighbour fixes it. Either way, bullshit phone company is not going to get paid for their bullshit phones.[/QUOTE] That's funny because tons of people get dropped calls and interrupted service every day and the phone companies get paid for them still.

[QUOTE=Profanwolf;20912633]It worked fine before DRM, why fuck shit up? Most pirates, if they like a game they will buy it to support the developers afterwards. :geno:[/QUOTE] World of Goo is the perfect example as to why DRM is necessary. [QUOTE=David29;20913420]Some people choose to put up with that sort of thing, but not all - me being one. If my power was shit, I wouldn't put up with it. Likewise, if I can't play a game I have paid for, I have every right to be annoyed.[/QUOTE] When you ignore a giant sticker/paragraph and you can't play because your internet is shit you literally cannot complain. [editline]07:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly;20913479] How about this. A company sells awesome telephones but they work only on wednesdays and tuesdays. My neighbor is able to make exact same phones because he has copied their technology. Phones he makes work all week but have stolen technology in them. Do I buy orginal phone for 50$ or the illegal one from my neighbor for 1$ ?[/QUOTE] This analogy is seriously bad because it wasn't even Ubi's fault that it didn't work for a few days when AC2 launched.

[QUOTE=Silly;20913479]How do you know what do I do? If it's a one time thing I'm ok with that. But if it happens frequently I call it a ripoff, demand refund, etc etc. [/QUOTE] Hey what do you know, the Ubisoft DRM servers don't go down frequently either, imagine that! [QUOTE=Silly;20913479]Bullshit, single player doesn't require internet connection. They are forcing it on me. I don't like it.[/QUOTE] They're not forcing it on you, you don't have to play the game. You're not entitled to play the game just because it was released. You make it sound as though you absolutely have to play this video game but the DRM is some evil wall preventing that from ever happening. It's a fucking video game. If you don't like the way the company is doing things then don't play it. [QUOTE=Silly;20913479]Assign Ubisoft employee to every copy of a game who will watch you everytime you play.[/QUOTE] This is how I know you're an idiot. [QUOTE=Silly;20913479]What the fuck? Why do I have to illegaly modify a game to be able to play it? That's retarded. I buy a game I want to install it and play whenever I want. If I can't do it I call it a bullshit and I will not pay for something like that.[/QUOTE] You don't have to to be able to play it. I haven't done anything to my copy and I've been able to play it problem free every time I want to play it. [QUOTE=Silly;20913479]Idiotic comparison. How about this. A company sells awesome telephones but they work only on wednesdays and tuesdays. My neighbor is able to make exact same phones because he has copied their technology. Phones he makes work all week but have stolen technology in them. Do I buy orginal phone for 50$ or the illegal one from my neighbor for 1$ ?[/QUOTE] Again, you're a moron. My statement wasn't an analogy regarding the act of pirating the game it was a about the flawed reasoning behind the pirating. Your situation isn't even remotely close to being analogous with the whole DRM situation because the ubisoft DRM doesn't only work at specific times. Maybe if you had said that the phone company makes phones that require you to be connected to the cell network. Oh wait...

sorry, the youtube video I found came out march 9, not december, I was looking at the join date. searching "assasins creed 2 crack youtube" will bring you to the video.

[QUOTE=adamater;20920240]sorry, the youtube video I found came out march 14, not december, I was looking at the join date. searching assasins creed 2 crack pc on youtube will bring you to the video.[/QUOTE] For the love of christ it white screens when you enter the animus how many times does this have to be said

No it doesn't ,after reading the comments people say" I can finally get into the animus" and stuff. Actual comment "w00t got to mission 7!! thx for the crack "

[QUOTE=133753P34K;20920110]When you ignore a giant sticker/paragraph and you can't play because your internet is shit you literally cannot complain.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20920220]They're not forcing it on you, you don't have to play the game[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20920220]If you don't like the way the company is doing things then don't play it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20920220]This is how I know you're an idiot [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20920220]Again, you're a moron[/QUOTE] You really can't speak yours opinions without understanding the problem and without treating others like morons and etc, can you ? When your future favorite will be released with this invasive DRM, will you buy it? Of course, only madmen will buy this thing like a rented game that will be only playable for some years and which necessited a permanent connection. It's like throwing your money from the window. And for the fact you can play without problem, but where are you when you play the game? In your house in the center of city? What happens if my Internet connection will be cut for some maintenance, or if I want to play in a laptop ? Have you considered these problems in your minds ? I don't think so... Like I said before, if Mass Effect 3 will be released with DRM, I will be mad at this news, because ME3 is my favorite serie and I could not play anywhere, anytime with this fucking DRM. [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;20920220]Hey what do you know, the Ubisoft DRM servers don't go down frequently either, imagine that![/QUOTE] How do you know either Ubisoft's severs don't go down frequently ? :smug: [editline]09:24PM[/editline] [QUOTE=133753P34K;20920110]World of Goo is the perfect example as to why DRM is necessary.[/QUOTE] Well, hello, you quote the only exception... Even if they didn't have good sales in the beginning, they gain much better in Steam sales.