I personally have no problems (as said) with any perks. Even Juggernaut. SO what they have more health? If you're smart, you have Stopping Power of UAV Jammer, more damage or invisible on radar, both of which is very useful if you have any skill.
All the perks are pretty well balanced, you sacrifice weapon power for extra health, extra health for invisibility on radar, hip fire accuracy for a live grenade, sprinting speeds for deep impact. It all works very well.
The only thing i don't want in MW2 are those tiny maps where P90 and RPDs rape all. Or maybe a map filter, because i hate playing ground war on Vacant in MW1, it's so ridiculous when you get dominated and pushed into a room to be killed over and over again. (BTW i'm max prestige and have a KPD of +2.9 to anyone who wants to flame)
Not a perk but I want to see prestige on the PC version in MW2
Martyrdom doesn't bother me, but it's stupid. You shouldn't have to die to get a kill.
People are exaggerating last stand by way too much.
I've always been a last stand user, and the main thing about it is that it DOES NOT kick in when you land headshots. If I get shot in the head, I do not go into last stand, I die immediately. Last stand only kicks in when leg/body shots take you down.
I must say that it does get ridiculous because you can combine Martyrdom and Last Stand, in a way. If you pull out a grenade right before you get taken down, you go into last stand still holding the nade, so you can throw it while you're on the ground.
[QUOTE=Vinegary;16621170]Juggernaut.
That's it. It makes the game far too arcadey. Don't tell me to play hardcore, because a pistol shot to the foot there can kill you. I just don't like how juggernaut gives you 3x HP[/QUOTE]
Two words: Double tap.
This thing kicks the crap out of stopping power anytime, super-powered rifle shots won't save you if I'm spewing out 100 rounds a second. It works against Juggernaut just fine too.
Wait, you don't need shitty perks like Stopping Power if you play on good servers of course in hardcore mode.
Better if there are perks like Last Stand or Bandolier.
[QUOTE=ashxu;16621179]12-year olds in gaming community+shitty servers[/QUOTE]
Kids playing video games is completely insane. Every game must be "shit" in your Eyes eh?
Martyrdom needs to be gone. It is the stupidest perk by a mile, and total bullshit.
Martydom is fine. The people who BAWWW are the people who need to wake up and not go near dead bodies (on hardcore this becomes near impossible to avoid though). The only perks I would like to see gone are the useless ones that nobody uses (eavesdrop is a perfect example, you never hear the enemy team discussing tactics).
It's not a perk, but it does take up the slot, I'd like to see Grenade launcher removed, those things are fucking impossible to dodge, and people have learnt how to spawn kill with them. It ruins the game for anyone who is on the receiving end.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;16632371]Martyrdom needs to be gone. It is the stupidest perk by a mile, and total bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I know. There's absolutely no reason to have this perk in the game other than the fact that it helps shitty players get cheap kills. In any game, you should not have to run away from someone after they're already dead. How the hell does he even trigger the grenade anyway?
[QUOTE=hexpunK;16632702]Martydom is fine. The people who BAWWW are the people who need to wake up and not go near dead bodies (on hardcore this becomes near impossible to avoid though). The only perks I would like to see gone are the useless ones that nobody uses (eavesdrop is a perfect example, you never hear the enemy team discussing tactics).[/QUOTE]
Have you ever played hardcore headquarters on shipment when some moron on your team has martyrdom? It's infuriating.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16632759]Have you ever played hardcore headquarters on shipment when some moron on your team has martyrdom? It's infuriating.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that is pretty piss annoying...maybe they should just stop martyrdom killing teammates. That would stop a lot of rage.
[QUOTE=zpiscool;16626976]Two words: Double tap.
This thing kicks the crap out of stopping power anytime, super-powered rifle shots won't save you if I'm spewing out 100 rounds a second. It works against Juggernaut just fine too.[/QUOTE]
Aye, it's a good perk.
Only perk I would really remove is Eavesdrop... so useless. And nerf the Skorpion to hell... I swear, slap a silencer on that thing and you might as well use it instead of a sniper rifle. Thing is ridiculously accurate, and in HC servers it's a fucking nightmare.
I would love to see "Last Stand" taken out of all of the COD games. I swear, I've died more times to someone falling to the ground and invulnerable, than for any other reason. It's a dumb and frustrating perk in any game mode.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;16621230]this entire thread is going to be mainly comprised of rage and hate for last stand, juggernaut, and matyrdom.
Why not make this a thread for perks we love? feel the love, my brothers and sisters![/QUOTE]
Gaybows for all!
Why the fuck are they keeping Martyrdom? Are they high? That's the ONLY problem I had with CoD4.
Last stand is the only perk I want out of the game. It's so fucking annoying to shoot the person down turn around and bam dead.
[QUOTE=Evilan;16638449]I would love to see "Last Stand" taken out of all of the COD games. I swear, I've died more times to someone falling to the ground and invulnerable, than for any other reason. It's a dumb and frustrating perk in any game mode.[/QUOTE]
In WaW it's called Second Chance, and anyone else with the perk can revive someone who is in Second Chance mode. It took an otherwise useless perk and made it decent.
I may not buy CoD: MW2 due to Martyrdom.
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[QUOTE=USB;16638547]Last stand is the only perk I want out of the game. It's so fucking annoying to shoot the person down turn around and bam dead.[/QUOTE]
Start aiming down when you kill them. Go from head to nuts, you'll get 'em.
Listen, I understand how everyone does not care for last stand, but really, think realistically. I think last stand should stay, but here are some things that will take some power away from it, ahem, here is the list of things.
-shot in the head
-shot at close range with a shotgun, would hurt like hell and possibly instantly kill someone due to shock.
-hit with any type of explosive charge, rockets, grenades or anything of that sort.
-being targeted by a helicopter/ AC130 barrage.
-bieng shot in any vital part of the body i.e. head, chest (heart).
-bieng shot with a heavy calibur weapon.
I think that would fix it.
[QUOTE=WallyGamer4;16638620]Listen, I understand how everyone does not care for last stand, but really, think realistically. I think last stand should stay, but here are some things that will take some power away from it, ahem, here is the list of things.
-shot in the head
-shot at close range with a shotgun, would hurt like hell and possibly instantly kill someone due to shock.
-hit with any type of explosive charge, rockets, grenades or anything of that sort.
-being targeted by a helicopter/ AC130 barrage.
-bieng shot in any vital part of the body i.e. head, chest (heart).
-bieng shot with a heavy calibur weapon.
I think that would fix it.[/QUOTE]
Same with Martyrdom.
Martyrdom is coming back? Fuck me...I get to play the avoid dead bodies game!
Am I the only one considering not getting MW2 due to Martyrdom?
[QUOTE=Agoat;16638512]Why the fuck are they keeping Martyrdom? Are they high? That's the ONLY problem I had with CoD4.[/QUOTE]
In normal mode, you get an indicator, know exactly where the grenade is, and can survive it if you're far enough away.
In hardcore mode, you know it fell, somewhere near you, and if you aren't at least three buildings away, you're dead.
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What I'm saying is, like the Helicopter, Martyrdom and a couple other things need nerfs to balance out on hardcore mode.
[QUOTE=WallyGamer4;16638620]Listen, I understand how everyone does not care for last stand, but really, think realistically. I think last stand should stay, but here are some things that will take some power away from it, ahem, here is the list of things.
-shot in the head
-shot at close range with a shotgun, would hurt like hell and possibly instantly kill someone due to shock.
-hit with any type of explosive charge, rockets, grenades or anything of that sort.
-being targeted by a helicopter/ AC130 barrage.
-bieng shot in any vital part of the body i.e. head, chest (heart).
-bieng shot with a heavy calibur weapon.
I think that would fix it.[/QUOTE]
All of those things instantly kill you in MW. I've always used Last Stand and it doesn't ALWAYS put you in Last Stand whenever you are going to die. Explosions instantly kill you. Headshots instantly kill you. Most of the time, shotgun blasts put you down for good if most of the pellets hit you.
There seems to be a damage threshold for Last Stand, so if you put a shitload of hurt into somebody with one attack, they go down for good.
People bitch about the split second you are invincible "falling" but it also takes a split second for the Last Stand guy to pull out his pistol (goes through the animation of switching to your pistol) so that argument is moot. Honestly, that split second is enough time to run and knife his ass on the ground. I almost never get a chance to kill people that do that because it takes time for the pistol to be ready to fire.
EDIT:
Also, I play Hardcore almost exclusively and I rarely see anyone using Martyrdom because it causes way too many team kills. Sometimes there is a kid running around with it on, but he almost instantly gets bitched at for killing his own teammates, since most kills in Hardcore are done at longer ranges.
I've got it, here's how to balance Martyrdom:
It only activates if you have at least 1 frag grenade unused.
[QUOTE=venn177;16639029]I've got it, here's how to balance Martyrdom:
It only activates if you have at least 1 frag grenade unused.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that in MW1?
I'd rather not have bandolier
worst perk ever
[QUOTE=elevator13;16639182]Isn't that in MW1?[/QUOTE]
Nope. It's not in WaW either.
[QUOTE=WallyGamer4;16638620]Listen, I understand how everyone does not care for last stand, but really, think realistically. I think last stand should stay, but here are some things that will take some power away from it, ahem, here is the list of things.
-hit with any type of explosive charge, rockets, grenades or anything of that sort.
I think that would fix it.[/QUOTE]
there you go. FYI headshots already kill laststanders
Oh, for anyone that didn't know, in MW1 you can do last stand AND martydom.
Yeah, that's right. When you go in last stand you can throw a grenade. So just go in last stand and pull the pin, then when someone runs over to knife you they get blown up.
YAY
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