umm yea well i dont play 24/7. thats just the server name to let people know the server never shuts down...
[QUOTE=Codemanj94;16662143]umm yea well i dont play 24/7. thats just the server name to let people [b]know the server never shuts down...[/b][/QUOTE]
Post of the year there buddy. I actually laughed out loud in real life. A dedicated server is a server that never shuts down. 24/7 Orange maps means it only runs Orange maps.
[QUOTE=Codemanj94;16662021]ok bye then anyone else want to be like him and not even give the map a chance. if you dont have Day of Defeat then dont even post here unless you sorta know what the gmeplay is like or if your a really good mapper...
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MY MAP IS CRAMPED??? TRY [url]http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/39209[/url]. Its way smaller...[/QUOTE]
Your map has one main movement flow path, while that map has several.
Size =/= quality.
orange maps are bad and you should feel bad
orange maps should just be called "lazy maps"
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;16662206]Your map has one main movement flow path, while that map has several.
Size =/= quality.[/QUOTE]
how does indoor arena have several movement paths??? its a u shape!
[QUOTE=rilez;16662207]orange maps are bad and you should feel bad
orange maps should just be called "lazy maps"[/QUOTE]
I like this guy.
It looks as if you put more effort into compiling this map than actually working on it.
I would love if someone redid some real maps like cs_office or 2fort in orange so us people with not so great computers could get some decent fps. But I have to agree that most if not all of orange maps are crap.
Actually, it takes more brainpower to make a good orange map than it does to make a good normal map.
With normal maps, there's the whole graphic element; if your map looks good enough, people will see past design flaws.
With orange maps, however, you have to focus on how well the map is designed. There is no real graphic element. They're easier to make overall, but it's harder to make a good one by far.
[QUOTE=DeadMollusk;16663192]Actually, it takes more brainpower to make a good orange map than it does to make a good normal map.
With normal maps, there's the whole graphic element; if your map looks good enough, people will see past design flaws.
With orange maps, however, you have to focus on how well the map is designed. There is no real graphic element. They're easier to make overall, but it's harder to make a good one by far.[/QUOTE]
Or, you could just make a good well textured map with no design flaws... Also, I don't get what all the hate on orange maps is, I'll admit, a well built map by Valve or a veteran mapper can be rather breathtaking, but I do enjoy some orange maps, mainly because of the simplicity of them.
[QUOTE=DeadMollusk;16663192]Actually, it takes more brainpower to make a good orange map than it does to make a good normal map.
With normal maps, there's the whole graphic element; if your map looks good enough, people will see past design flaws.
With orange maps, however, you have to focus on how well the map is designed. There is no real graphic element. They're easier to make overall, but it's harder to make a good one by far.[/QUOTE]
there are no good orange maps because its impossible to make one
orange maps are shit no matter how much effort you put into them
[QUOTE=DeadMollusk;16663192]Actually, it takes more brainpower to make a good orange map than it does to make a good normal map.
With normal maps, there's the whole graphic element; if your map looks good enough, people will see past design flaws.
With orange maps, however, you have to focus on how well the map is designed. There is no real graphic element. They're easier to make overall, but it's harder to make a good one by far.[/QUOTE]
Extremely wrong.
With normal maps, you have to focus on graphics and design: people will notice bad design very quickly. With cp_egypt for TF2, you have a pretty map, but it's just confusing as shit: it's like a maze, if you will. Design is important, but graphics help give it style and add some likeness to it too. The graphics also tell that the mapper put time and effort into the map, and not only the map's graphics.
With orange maps, most of the mappers for these maps suck at mapping in general, so not only are the graphics bad, but the design sucks too. It's not hard to come up with a generic idea for a map (unless you have Mapper's Block). Orange Maps are very quickly made, so you can expect their design to be rough too.
The map is a lot less immersive too. There's no reason you should ever release an orange map.
The map isn't that bad of a map. It has a skybox, lighting, all the needed gameplay elements and even decent beginning brushwork. Good work.
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And what is with this orangemap shitstorm? Yeah maps with developer textures can be shit, but only if you put shit effort into it. I use dev textures but only as a placeholder until I find a suiting texture or I make my own.
What some orange maps are, are just maps with developer textures and an excuse to not put in good textures, they don't completely define the map. And think of the map this way, it looks a hell of a lot better compared to other peoples starting maps.
And to the people calling him lazy, for some people who are still getting a feel for making maps, putting detail and realism into a map takes a lot of time, and if done wrong and breaks the map, can be very dis encouraging to new mappers, who just want to make a map. So if people started giving him tips and more positive criticism, he might be able to make this or future maps better.
[QUOTE=Mitogenesis;16661841]Doesn't look like that bad of a map honestly.[/QUOTE]
It's a corridoor, I could make that in hammer and I've hardly used it.
Yes, but you have more experience. If you want me to find you some peoples first maps, I can gladly do so and have this map look gold.
if you look at my fpsbanana profile you can see this isnt my first map. ive made about 7 maps, not all uploaded, and theyve turned out pretty good. the reason i dont make normal maps is because i dont like them. orange maps are just more fun to me.
I think it's OK, not great though
Hi, My name is OP I made a crap map and post it on Facepunch and now is ignorant and won't accept anyone's opinion that the map sucks.
And yes it sucks.
Orangemaps are half-assed maps, not real ones. Maps with scenery and terrain gives depth and feel to a game. This aint '02.
You really should do real maps instead of orange maps. Every orange map looks pretty much the same, no enviroment, no textures, and what the fuck are WWII soldiers doing in a blocky, walled up place with orange and gray paint smeared everywhere.
Also; VALVe games&mods subforum that way ~>
That map is horrible. One could make it just by reading the "my first room" tutorial. And then it would even be better because it had real textures and a small pool
An orange map will never be breath taking, not even a good one.
However a good orange map can provide unrivaled fun.
Just looked at the map (in Gmod). Why did you surround the ENTIRE play area in a massive sky box? It creates a needlessly large bsp file and can reduce frame rate. A better way is to enclose just the toop of the out door area and the bottom of the chasms which you will need to make a bit deeper and place a kill zone at the bottom if there isn't one there already. this will case the compiler to remove the faces that are outside the level and save you some work with the next recommendation.
The use of No draw texture on faces that the players will never see is also a good way to help optimise the map.
Screenshot tip: use the text tool for the writing and the ellipse/circle tool for the rings the free hand scribbles look messy and unprofessional.
I don't know why you're all freaking out about this, it's a lot better than most of the maps in the mapping section.
Orange maps can be just as good as regular maps, if they have good level design. However, you still need more practice mapping.
[QUOTE=Codemanj94;16661747]Thats why your saying this is bad? you obviously played on some bad maps then.[/QUOTE]
Wahh, Waaaah! My map sucks and I can't handle it!
I think youre missing the grander picture, which is dod_S fuckin sucks
[QUOTE=amgoz1;16669303]I don't know why you're all freaking out about this, it's a lot better than most of the maps in the mapping section.[/QUOTE]
Quoting a true post.
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Day of defeat source is ten times better then counterstrike source.
Orange maps are just dumb. Going to make a map? Well then fucking texture it, orange maps are just a lame excuse not to.
Sorry OP, your map is generic and bland. Put some effort in next time.
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