[QUOTE=ironman17;34914039]To be honest, having Mass Effect 3 be a "perfect place for newcomers" is a horrible idea. EA should've simply pointed towards the original Mass Effect (maybe give it a bit of polish) and said "start here to begin your Mass Effect experience", maybe even bundle Mass Effect 2 into the package so the newcomers can get up to speed quicker.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1Nie7.jpg[/IMG]
Yeah but according to the official gameplay stats (gathered by the in-built tracker) the game wasn't "casual enough" to make more than 50% care about even finishing it. Most of the Mass Effect 1 players never left the Citadel. I can only wonder where they stopped playing ME2?
Most complaints I hear are about: "Too much talking, too much running around places, not shooting enough things."
I've finished CoD:MW3 at a friend's place in 4 hours (was horrible), Mass Effect 2 takes 33 hours. Attention spans of typical ADHD gamers are too low to stand this experience.
[QUOTE=Arvuti;34911447]if your wondering why no aliens there, because facepunch is xenophobic.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/facepunchromance.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Looking at the people who voted..46 people. I wonder how many of them will actually be watching the stream :v:
[QUOTE=Arvuti;34913612]this is mark meer
[img]http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Mark_Meer-2.jpg[/img]
that nude guy is mark vanderloo (aka sheploo)[/QUOTE]
On the subject of Mark Meer, an old (but good) video of him doing VA.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbpy4a5beZA&feature=youtu.be[/media]
[QUOTE=Arvuti;34913612]this is mark meer
[img]http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Mark_Meer-2.jpg[/img]
that nude guy is mark vanderloo (aka sheploo)[/QUOTE]
You know, I don't know why they didn't use Meer for Sheps default face, instead of using some uppity dutch model.
[QUOTE=mercurius;34913880][sp]ID=210 Geth Heretics Saved Type: Modifier - StartingStrength=0 ConditionalDescription="Saved the Geth in ME2"
ID=216 Geth Heretics Destroyed Type: Modifier - StartingStrength=0 ConditionalDescription="Destroyed the Geth in ME2"[/sp]
[sp]Both have 0 impact, they don't give any points or take them away. It simply has no influence.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Again, thos are listed as modifiers, I'm fairly certain none of the modifiers have strength. Assets give strength.
[QUOTE=tommo400;34914211]You know, I don't know why they didn't use Meer for Sheps default face, instead of using some uppity dutch model.[/QUOTE]
Don't know, but nowadays don't even care. I mean can anyone in this thread think how Shepards voice would fit to that face. And don't throw any ''But that is the voice actor of Shepard'' shit at me, trust me I know that already
[QUOTE=tommo400;34914211]You know, I don't know why they didn't use Meer for Sheps default face.[/QUOTE]
His jawline is less severe and doesn't portray the aggressive and assertive nature that Vanerloo's does. Vanderloo's face is more stereotypically 'heroic' (like Captain Titus from Space Marine) and I reckon that's what Bioware wanted to portray Shepard as.
My campaign starts again from now, time to replay ME1 as I haven't played for well over a year so pretty much forgot most things. May as well treat this playthrough as brand new like i've never played before.
Got some days off Uni and i'm ill at the moment so i'll most likely play a whole lot of hours completing what I can again.
[QUOTE=mercurius;34914173]Attention spans of typical ADHD gamers are too low to stand this experience.[/QUOTE]
Well then, I hate to say this since it might sound predjudiced and bad for business, but maybe Mass Effect isn't the type of game they should play? If they lack the attention span required for an RPG, which is what Mass Effect IS, maybe they're more suited to less in-depth things like Modern Warfare? (oh god oh god I can't believe I recommended that they play a bland candy-machine shooter)
Thing is, if they're the age they are and they still lack the ability to appreciate a solid RPG experience, chances are they either won't be able to appreciate such things in general, or that it'll take more time for them to age and become more "refined" and appreciate the finer things. Basically, if they aren't cut out for playing RPGs, they shouldn't play RPGs.
I'm sorry, but that's the way things are, and no amount of capitalism and executive meddling can change human nature. Unless of course it's bio-engineering, but that stuff's got a ways to go before it's cheap enough to go mainstream. Nonetheless, you shouldn't be playing RPGs if you aren't cut out for them.
Besides, one of the reasons why some people didn't finish the game may have been related to real-life matters like education or work chewing up their free time, and not just because of "typical ADHD(/ADD) gamers". Sure they may have been a factor in those statistics but a lack of time was also a likely factor.
Vanderloo is fuckin sexy. But I guess that's why he's a model.
[QUOTE=tommo400;34914211]You know, I don't know why they didn't use Meer for Sheps default face, instead of using some uppity dutch model.[/QUOTE]
I guess his features aren't exaggerated enough.
I'd like to see someone try and recreate him in the face-maker though. As far as custom Shephards go, he's a pretty good face-model.
Offtopic to you guys but
[sp] BSN is bitching about the endings, I am very glad they are all bitter-sweet and sad. Mass-Effect wasn't really ever supposed to be happy or have perfect endings. I thought Pretty much all of ME2 made this clear, even ME1's was that of false happiness. But I guess thats really up to debate. But I love how they all bitch that "ME1-ME2's endings made you feel like a god, but ME3's SUCKS". [/sp]
Does anyone know how many stops you can make after the [sp]Collector ship abducts your crew [/sp] in ME2?
(Tagged becuase there is bound to be atleast one person who hasn't completed the game :v: )
I think
Thanks to ME1
I might manage to get every squaddie loyal
Jack wasn't loyal because of the argument.
[QUOTE=ironman17;34914485]Well then, I hate to say this since it might sound predjudiced and bad for business, but maybe Mass Effect isn't the type of game they should play? If they lack the attention span required for an RPG, which is what Mass Effect IS, maybe they're more suited to less in-depth things like Modern Warfare? (oh god oh god I can't believe I recommended that they play a bland candy-machine shooter)
Thing is, if they're the age they are and they still lack the ability to appreciate a solid RPG experience, chances are they either won't be able to appreciate such things in general, or that it'll take more time for them to age and become more "refined" and appreciate the finer things. Basically, if they aren't cut out for playing RPGs, they shouldn't play RPGs.
I'm sorry, but that's the way things are, and no amount of capitalism and executive meddling can change human nature. Unless of course it's bio-engineering, but that stuff's got a ways to go before it's cheap enough to go mainstream. Nonetheless, you shouldn't be playing RPGs if you aren't cut out for them.
Besides, one of the reasons why some people didn't finish the game may have been related to real-life matters like education or work chewing up their free time, and not just because of "typical ADHD(/ADD) gamers". Sure they may have been a factor in those statistics but a lack of time was also a likely factor.[/QUOTE]
While that works in generalist theory, the caveats are when BW was indie they needed capital to bring this stuff out in the first place, and now that they aren't, there are some serious expectations tied to every title they make. That's how the business works now. It's very easy to rationalize these decisions within the aegis of furthering profit = guaranteed full time employment + benefits and awesome workplace + insurance for all etc etc etc. This kind of shit adds up quick. The baseball player who started Kingdom of Amalur spent millions and millions getting off the ground, and the average cost for a three system A game is about 15 mil. Ain't cheap anymore, by any metric.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;34914611]Offtopic to you guys but
[sp] BSN is bitching about the endings, I am very glad they are all bitter-sweet and sad. Mass-Effect wasn't really ever supposed to be happy or have perfect endings. I thought Pretty much all of ME2 made this clear, even ME1's was that of false happiness. But I guess thats really up to debate. But I love how they all bitch that "ME1-ME2's endings made you feel like a god, but ME3's SUCKS". [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]My brother told me the leak said the whole team starve to death at some point.
It was funny.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mr Anderson;34914623]Does anyone know how many stops you can make after the [sp]Collector ship abducts your crew [/sp] in ME2?
(Tagged becuase there is bound to be atleast one person who hasn't completed the game :v: )[/QUOTE]
Just one, and ( I think it has to be Legion's mission) that is pushing it.
[QUOTE=Cone;34914655][sp]My brother told me the leak said the whole team starve to death at some point.
It was funny.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] Its all completely up the viewer from what people said. There is like 3-6 endings with loads of variations. I honestly don't know because every leak is vague and always pulls dumb shit like "THE LAST PERSON YOU HAVE AS A FLASHBACK IS LIARA CAUSE OF A GLITCH" and I'm like 'sure okay I believe that definitely'[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mr Anderson;34914623]Does anyone know how many stops you can make after the [sp]Collector ship abducts your crew [/sp] in ME2?
(Tagged becuase there is bound to be atleast one person who hasn't completed the game :v: )[/QUOTE]
Don't do any sidequests or shit, you gots to go straight through the relay.
[editline]28th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=doommarine23;34914656]Just one, and ( I think it has to be Legion's mission) that is pushing it.[/QUOTE]
Quite sure some of the NSR2's crew got all [sp]liquefied [/sp]if you did that.
With luck, you can nab leigon's loyalty before [sp]The collectors show up[/sp]
You can do two missions after IFF, although visiting hubs might not count.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;34914691]Quite sure some of the NSR2's crew got all [sp]liquefied [/sp]if you did that.[/QUOTE]
I do Legion's mission as soon as I get him, having done everything I needed to beforehand. You can still save the whole crew if you only have literally one stop before you go into the Omega 4 Relay.
[QUOTE=shatteredwindow;34914544]Vanderloo is fuckin sexy. But I guess that's why he's a model.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://top-people.starmedia.com/tmp/swotti/cacheBWFYAYB2YW5KZXJSB28=/imgMark%20Vanderloo7.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=EcksDee;34914691]Don't do any sidequests or shit, you gots to go straight through the relay.[/QUOTE]
You can do one mission before going through the relay and still rescue everyone, I think.
[QUOTE=Jackald;34914683]The kind of gamers who enjoy Mass Effect will likely have heard about it through other means, so don't need advertising to. Bioware's got to attract the ADHD gamers for the sake of business.[/QUOTE]
They essentially don't need to worry about existing players at this point, because people who have played the previous games will almost certainly buy the third regardless. They instead focus on people who haven't yet got into the series, due to too much boring talking/not enough wicked cool explosions.
[QUOTE=Cone;34914911]I do Legion's mission as soon as I get him, having done everything I needed to beforehand. You can still save the whole crew if you only have literally one stop before you go into the Omega 4 Relay.[/QUOTE]
You get two stops. I did Tali's loyalty with Legion and then Legion's after the IFF just a couple days ago and yet everyone survived.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;34915027]You get two stops. I did Tali's loyalty with Legion and then Legion's after the IFF just a couple days ago and yet everyone survived.[/QUOTE]
Interesting. But if you say so then so it is, I guess.
Redoing a ME2 save, Time for "disabled" Collector ship....On Insanity
It's kinda funny how both the Horizon boss and Collector ship platform fight are harder then the actually final boss fight
[QUOTE=EcksDee;34915070]Interesting. But if you say so then so it is, I guess.[/QUOTE]
He's right, I did the same thing.
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;34915164]Redoing a ME2 save, Time for "disabled" Collector ship....On Insanity
It's kinda funny how both the Horizon boss and Collector ship platform fight are harder then the actually final boss fight[/QUOTE]
I personally found the platform fight pretty easy due to Widow. Only real problem was the double-scion platform.
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