[QUOTE=27X;34935936][sp]
Because fans are attached to the franchise and the universe. BioWare in an effort to be both conclusive and edgy have exploded that pillar and allowed no room to get it back on track. Their "choice" of endings is not a choice at all, really. It's just as dumb as saying the huge deal at the end of DAO was HAHAHA I R GRORIOUS TROOR, U AM ARIVE AGAIN DIN DON BANNU.
It's like total emo, not only can you not save society (earth has to import food and is hella fucking overcrowded, basically the only colonies that can survive on their own are Eden Prime MAYBE and Mars.) It's just a blatant ripoff of Deus Ex and Star Control, with not even a nod TO THEIR OWN NARRATIVE. In addition the Normandy is fucked and so is Shepard. No one wins. Literally. They made half the endings they should have, and they expect everyone to suck it down and be their bitch. Apparently the answer is a resounding no.
You do not disrespect the people buying your product. If these were the BAD endings ONLY and the good endings were society surviving like say germany and britain at the end of WW2, people would not be apeshit right now, in fact they would probably be a fuckton of threads saying good job BW, can't wait for new ME. Right now it's pretty much the opposite. These people are writings themselves out of employment. Trust me, I've seen this happen.[/sp][/QUOTE]
And the worst part of it all is that there's [sp]absolutely no chance for a true spin-off game set in the Mass Effect universe without being a prequel or before Humanity entered the galactic stage. Not only have they written themselves out of a job, but they're written themselves into a deeper corner then with introducing the Reapers as a fast approaching threat.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34935965]Looking on the bright side, [sp]There'll still be entire systems where civilization survived, since the only thing that was destroyed was rapid inter-galactic travel, not inter-stellar travel. the Exodus Nebula with Terra Nova and Eden Prime'll do just fine, for example.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Even if this is true, you can say goodbye to any sequel. What would the games be about? It would essentially be [sp]Trigun,[/sp] if they even did one.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;34935998]Well, there's a difference between an ending that's bad and an ending that can be considered disrespectful. [B]It's possible that the bulk of the game more than makes up for the endings we're hearing about but man, Bioware is probably going to be in for some flak on this one.[/B][/QUOTE]
[sp]There's no difference between a hardcore Renegade homicidal Shepard and a Paragon everyone live long and prosper Shepard. A series built entirely on choice ends with the writers basically tearing up your character sheet and laughing at you.[/sp]
Its all a money tactic
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;34935998]Well, there's a difference between an ending that's bad and an ending that can be considered disrespectful. It's possible that the bulk of the game more than makes up for the endings we're hearing about but man, Bioware is probably going to be in for some flak on this one.[/QUOTE]
but what's the point
Everything's fucked no matter what you do. The events that transpire prior to the ending are meaningless.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34936034][sp]There's no difference between a hardcore Renegade homicidal Shepard and a Paragon everyone live long and prosper Shepard. A series built entirely on choice ends with the writers basically tearing up your character sheet and laughing at you.[/sp][/QUOTE]
And that's what's pissing everyone off and I honestly can't blame them. There's a lot of things being thrown around, ranging from the guy leaking the endings not having enough GWS points to a guy claiming he has the strategy guide saying that there are two "good" endings and a secret ending for NG+
I don't know what information is accurate and what isn't.
[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=HazeFyer23;34936049]Its all a money tactic[/QUOTE]
How is it a money tactic if it defeats the possibility of sequels and pisses off 90% of their fanbase?
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;34936029]Even if this is true, you can say goodbye to any sequel. What would the games be about? It would essentially be [sp]Trigun,[/sp] if they even did one.[/QUOTE]
Mass Effect 4: The Great Crusade
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;34935548]I need a picture to accurately portray my emotions right now...
Quickly, someone flip his smile upside-down!
[img]http://i.imgur.com/QRkFK.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
We need this. Now.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;34936066]Mass Effect 4: The Great Crusade[/QUOTE]
Why are you so witty? Every post you've made thusfar here has made me laugh.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;34936059]And that's what's pissing everyone off and I honestly can't blame them. There's a lot of things being thrown around, ranging from the guy leaking the endings not having enough GWS points to a guy claiming he has the strategy guide saying that there are two "good" endings and a secret ending for NG+
I don't know what information is accurate and what isn't.
[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]
How is it a money tactic if it defeats the possibility of sequels and pisses off 90% of their fanbase?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QIQf2DpZnQ[/url]
can you believe this
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;34936059]And that's what's pissing everyone off and I honestly can't blame them. There's a lot of things being thrown around, ranging from the guy leaking the endings not having enough GWS points to a guy claiming he has the strategy guide saying that there are two "good" endings and a secret ending for NG+
I don't know what information is accurate and what isn't.
[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]
How is it a money tactic if it defeats the possibility of sequels and pisses off 90% of their fanbase?[/QUOTE]
The presence of an NG+ ending wouldn't surprise me. Carried over a save from ME1? Great, you can access it straight away. New game? You can still get it, but have to NG+ first.
"lol hey guys, let's release these copies early into space. What could go wrong?"
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;34936085]MASS EFFECT 3 ENDING SPOILERS[sp][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QIQf2DpZnQ[/url][/sp]
can you believe this[/QUOTE]
You should spoiler that.
And yeah, I can believe it. That cutscene reveals at least one ending to the game, and it looks depressing as all hell. There are 7 endings though, with 3 "primary" differences.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;34935723]All fair points. My childlike and moronic rationalization not withstanding, I'm still of the belief that the game itself will be great. That, if we play it through all the way, we can at least say that the experience was worth it. Though, that is more rationalization...
Maybe I should just finish watching the Deep Space Nine series finale, that'll take my mind off of this.[/QUOTE]
B5 is always there for you.
[QUOTE=GetBent;34936101]"lol hey guys, let's release these copies early into space. What could go wrong?"[/QUOTE]
Reapers.
All the endings, taken directly from the SA post by one of the devs
[sp]Destroy:
1. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Devastated. Shepard Dead.
3. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
4. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Survives.
Control:
1. Assuming Direct Control. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Assuming Direct Control. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
Merge:
1. Synergy. Shepard Dead. EDI survives. [/sp]
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;34936059]And that's what's pissing everyone off and I honestly can't blame them. There's a lot of things being thrown around, ranging from the guy leaking the endings not having enough GWS points to a guy claiming he has the strategy guide saying that there are two "good" endings and a secret ending for NG+
I don't know what information is accurate and what isn't.
[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]
How is it a money tactic if it defeats the possibility of sequels and pisses off 90% of their fanbase?[/QUOTE]
After writing my post, I just came upon that realization. I had originally thought that they would pump more dlc in the future concerning the [sp] ending, if it is the only one[/sp] to sate angry fans. Seeing your post defeated my idea.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;34936087]The presence of an NG+ ending wouldn't surprise me. Carried over a save from ME1? Great, you can access it straight away. New game? You can still get it, but have to NG+ first.[/QUOTE]
It still surprises me that for all the supposed money grabbing EA has done they've yet to make endings or achievements exclusive to those who bought previous installments of the series.
Also why did they get rid of Karpyshyn? Replacing him with Mac Walters is personally the single worst decision they did for the development of the Mass Effect series.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;34936136]All the endings, taken directly from the SA post by one of the devs
[sp]Destroy:
1. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Devastated. Shepard Dead.
3. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
4. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Survives.
Control:
1. Assuming Direct Control. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Assuming Direct Control. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
Merge:
1. Synergy. Shepard Dead. EDI survives. [/sp][/QUOTE]
Basically, nobody wins.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;34936136]All the endings, taken directly from the SA post by one of the devs
[sp]Destroy:
1. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Devastated. Shepard Dead.
3. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
4. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Survives.
Control:
1. Assuming Direct Control. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Assuming Direct Control. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
Merge:
1. Synergy. Shepard Dead. EDI survives. [/sp][/QUOTE]
Looks like I don't have much of a choice for something happy
ME3 is awesome, I found and was sent a final image or just a random image of final scenes of mass effect 3, not sure if real. But it seems legit.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;34936008]So I'm not the only person who thinks they're taking another page out of Star Control 2.[/QUOTE]
They just changed the names.
[QUOTE=HazeFyer23;34936137]After writing my post, I just came upon that realization. I had originally thought that they would pump more dlc in the future concerning the [sp] ending, if it is the only one[/sp] to sate angry fans. Seeing your post defeated my idea.[/QUOTE]
"Hey guys, let's make our fans pay for the ending of their game!"
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34936011]And the worst part of it all is that there's [sp]absolutely no chance for a true spin-off game set in the Mass Effect universe without being a prequel or before Humanity entered the galactic stage. Not only have they written themselves out of a job, but they're written themselves into a deeper corner then with introducing the Reapers as a fast approaching threat.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]It's been said they plan on doing an MMO so this is a good way to ensure that the endings are fairly uniform, that the Universe is wiped clean, and ensures a gap between these games and the MMO so they can reset the world and explain away any plot holes.
They'll come up with another way of travelling the stars and the galaxy will be somewhat unified again, but it'll take a while. In the mean time they can let Helper come up with all kinds of new cannon with no restrictions because ambiguous ending lol.[/sp]
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;34936173]"Hey guys, let's make our fans pay for the ending of their game!"[/QUOTE]
"Hey, it's not like you NEED the ending, we already gave you plenty of ones before."
It's the same thing with the From Ashes DLC.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;34936136]All the endings, taken directly from the SA post by one of the devs
[sp]Destroy:
1. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Devastated. Shepard Dead.
3. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
4. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Survives.
Control:
1. Assuming Direct Control. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Assuming Direct Control. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
Merge:
1. Synergy. Shepard Dead. EDI survives. [/sp][/QUOTE]
Neither Tank nor Xio are devs.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;34935548]I need a picture to accurately portray my emotions right now...
Quickly, someone flip his smile upside-down!
[img]http://i.imgur.com/QRkFK.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/QRkFK2.jpg[/img]
copyrite dog 2012 dto not steal
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;34936125]Reapers.[/QUOTE]
Every copy of them has one inside, holy shit!
[QUOTE=27X;34936170]They just changed the names.[/QUOTE]
Star Control 2 is fucking awesome.
God I fucking love that game, why couldn't they just remake that?
[QUOTE=Dog;34936194][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/QRkFK2.jpg[/img]l[/QUOTE]
Look at that craftsmanship.
So with regards to the ending. [sp]How do the planets even survive the relays exploding? In Arrival it wiped out a whole solar system, and every relay blows up here.[/sp]
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