• Mass Effect Megathread: DING DONG BANNU edition
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[sp]The endings are fine guys. The relays were never intended to be used without the Reapers. They were there in the first place so civilizations wouldn't be able to advance any further. They relied too much on Reaper technology, so once the Reapers came back, they could easily be exterminated. I thought this shit was already explained? [/sp]
You know what? Fuck you internet. I was so excited for this game. I couldn't stand waiting for this. I pre-ordered the N7 Edition the minute I could. But as spoilers keep pouring out... this game is becoming a mess. Mass Effect 1 had one of my favorite video game plots ever. What's happening? I can't decide if I'd have been angrier when I found this shit out playing the game or not.
[QUOTE=Revan564;34937184][sp]The endings are fine guys. The relays were never intended to be used without the Reapers. They were there in the first place so civilizations wouldn't be able to advance any further. They relied too much on Reaper technology, so once the Reapers came back, they could easily be exterminated. I thought this shit was already explained? [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]I'm not all that bothered by the Relays being destroyed. What I have a problem with is Bioware making all of the endings aggravatingly similar, and universally depressing. It essentially says that while the journey to get there may have been incredible, nothing I did really mattered all that much. And that's painful given this is a choice-driven trilogy, or at least it's supposed to be.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Revan564;34937184][sp]The endings are fine guys. The relays were never intended to be used without the Reapers. They were there in the first place so civilizations wouldn't be able to advance any further. They relied too much on Reaper technology, so once the Reapers came back, they could easily be exterminated. I thought this shit was already explained? [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Naw. There are many ways to handle progression, and loldorkgrimdark is only one of them. The point of Shepard's entire existence was throwing out the rules, beating the odds and coming up with the impossible victories. I don't think you get the logistical implications. The council isn't wounded, these planets, including race capitals, are completely fucked, logistically speaking. They no longer have the infrastructure to support themselves. The only race that can put up with how it will be are the Krogans.The other planets are completely screwed.[/sp]
[QUOTE=RichyZ;34937262]haha i just realised something they said you dont need to play multiplayer to get the best ending well [sp]there is no best ending[/sp][/QUOTE] That's one of the best zingers I've heard in a while. Well done.
Well, you know what? I've only had the dumb endings spoiled for me. I don't know the story itself. Let's see Bioware pull some cool shit. I won't give up... I think. I don't know. The endings are still douchey. I want just one... ending where it seems like we beat the odds and did alright for ourselves.
[QUOTE=27X;34937263][sp]Naw. There are many ways to handle progression, and loldorkgrimdark is only one of them. The point of Shepard's entire existence was throwing out the rules, beating the odds and coming up with the impossible victories. I don't think you get the logistical implications. The council isn't wounded, these planets, including race capitals are completely fucked, logistically speaking. They no longer have the infrastructure to support themselves.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]If I'm not mistaken, several planets are completely destroyed to the point of being inhabitable. FUBAR doesn't begin to describe it.[/sp]
[QUOTE=milktree;34937175]i thought the entire mass effect trilogy was outlined by drew before 1 was even released?[/QUOTE] But it was never implemented. I know that Drew worked on ME2 but how much of the original script could've changed? Remember how ME2 was supposed to be about the Geth (well, Legion and the beginning part) resurrecting Shepard instead of Cerberus (which was shown on one of the early trailers and other things) [sp]correct me if i'm wrong[/sp]
[QUOTE=RichyZ;34937315]honestly, i wasn't going to buy this because of the dlc thing, but now that the story is all completely hamburger'd, i really don't give a fuck about this series anymore, bioware can go fuck themselves[/QUOTE] You ever notice the more you love a series the more it seems to fall apart :C Assassins Creed 1+2 were some of my favorite games of the last decade. I don't even give 2 shits about the new ones.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;34937344]but at least they continue the story and don't just go DING DONG BANNU to all of the characters and settings and writing aka mass effect 4: money is all i want[/QUOTE] Ezio's story ended at Assassins Creed 2. He takes off his gloves, refuses to kill for the first time, and says he doesn't want to be an assassin. Show's over.
Wait let me get this straight. Because BioWare wanted to take the story in a completely different direction then everyone expected, BioWare no longer cares about Mass Effect? Can someone explain this leap in logic to me?
Well, cancelled my pre-order at my local EBGames today. Managed to find a PC Collectors Edition a few kilometers away, last one, paid it in full on the spot
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;34937406]Wait let me get this straight. Because BioWare wanted to take the story in a completely different direction then everyone expected, BioWare no longer cares about Mass Effect? Can someone explain this leap in logic to me?[/QUOTE] I'd like to know this as well. I'm not a 'biodrone' but heaven forbid they want to have all endings be grim. It might be for whatever they have planned next, and either way even though the ending's been spoiled to me (thanks thread!) I still am curious on HOW it happens.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;34937406]Wait let me get this straight. Because BioWare wanted to take the story in a completely different direction then everyone expected, BioWare no longer cares about Mass Effect? Can someone explain this leap in logic to me?[/QUOTE] I don't mind them taking the story in an unexpected direction, but I would mind if they invalidate everything I've done.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;34937421]because at that point he knew that killing the pope would be futile and would only give him personal revenge and stuff but that's for another thread[/QUOTE] Another thread, yeah. But, man, I expect a lot better from Bioware. I honestly do not mind endings where the characters get buttfucked royally, but in Mass Effect, it seems really odd. It doesn't seem right to set us up through 3 games to have all these epic choices that they promise will have epic conclusions, and then, in the end, nothing meant anything because no one wins. I feel the endings should've been like New Vegas. Multiple paths, no one truly wins, no one truly loses. It's all up to your own personal view on things. The Legion will establish a well guarded country, and men will flourish, but women will probably do shitty. The NCR will stabilize government, but probably impose martial law and do all sorts of shit. Nobody wins, but no one loses. Why can't we have that? [editline]1st March 2012[/editline] Seriously, having every ending being the same thing means jack shit. What was the point of carrying my Shepard through all 3 games? The choices don't mean a fucking thing apparently. I'm really dissapointed.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;34937241][sp]I'm not all that bothered by the Relays being destroyed. What I have a problem with is Bioware making all of the endings aggravatingly similar, and universally depressing. It essentially says that while the journey to get there may have been incredible, nothing I did really mattered all that much. And that's painful given this is a choice-driven trilogy, or at least it's supposed to be.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] What did you expect? Even ME1 didn't really affect ME2. Sure you get a little bit of cameos and references, but it hardly changes the main plot. Did the ending ME2 change if you saved Wrex or not? Hell, did ME1's ending even change if you saved the rachni queen? I agree that Bioware should have connected the games a little bit more and spiced up the endings, but they still have a new story to tell in ME3. [/sp]
lets all make a petition [i]THAT'LL[/i] work.
Well, [url=http://www.primagames.com/games/mass-effect-3/news/11-new-mass-effect-3-screenshots-from-guide]PrimaGuides[/url] just posted 11 new screenshots, one of which is rather spoilerific. I'll link that one. [thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/01-003.jpg[/thumb][thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/AT02-001.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/AT02-004.jpg[/thumb][thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/AT02-042.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/AT02-044.jpg[/thumb][thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/AT02-196.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/Op01-007-alt-2.jpg[/thumb][thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/Op04-004-alt_200.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/Op05-004.jpg[/thumb][thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/Op09-003-(alt).jpg[/thumb]
[QUOTE=Revan564;34937484][sp] What did you expect? Even ME1 didn't really affect ME2. Sure you get a little bit of cameos and references, but it hardly changes the main plot. Did the ending ME2 change if you saved Wrex or not? Hell, did ME1's ending even change if you saved the rachni queen? I agree that Bioware should have connected the games a little bit more and spiced up the endings, but they still have a new story to tell in ME3. [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]The Rachni issue was a side problem. Your main focus throughout ME1 was to stop Saren and the Geth until you realize the bigger problem is actually Sovereign and the Reaper horde. And you're forgetting ME2's change of focus(Collectors instead of Reapers). Nothing really changed except those small cameos in Illium.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Revan564;34937484][sp] What did you expect? Even ME1 didn't really affect ME2. Sure you get a little bit of cameos and references, but it hardly changes the main plot. Did the ending ME2 change if you saved Wrex or not? Hell, did ME1's ending even change if you saved the rachni queen? I agree that Bioware should have connected the games a little bit more and spiced up the endings, but they still have a new story to tell in ME3. [/sp][/QUOTE] It's because [sp]Mass Effect 3's the best time to jump into the series.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34937583]It's because [sp]Mass Effect 3's the best time to jump into the series.[/sp][/QUOTE] I had a friend who hadn't played the first 2, and was convinced that he could still get the best ending we had a massive argument about it ... Fuck you bioware, now I'm gonna look like a dick.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;34937596]1 and 2 are, 3 is the best time to get to the emergency escape pods[/QUOTE] Actually now that you say that, the part where the Normandy's ejecting it's escape pods in ME2 would be a good "Abandon thread" gif.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;34937602]I had a friend who hadn't played the first 2, and was convinced that he could still get the best ending we had a massive argument about it ... Fuck you bioware, now I'm gonna look like a dick.[/QUOTE] What were his reasons for not playing the first two?
[QUOTE=abracusify;34937551][sp]The Rachni issue was a side problem. Your main focus throughout ME1 was to stop Saren and the Geth until you realize the bigger problem. And you're forgetting ME2's change of focus. Nothing really changed except those small cameos in Illium.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Exactly, the main focus of ME1 is to stop Saren and the Geth, ME2 is to stop the Collectors, and now ME3 is to stop the Reapers. The decisions you made that didn't affect these plots had always been on the backseat in the story. They aren't the main focus of the trilogy and won't change what happens in the ending. We haven't played the game ourselves so we have no way of knowing if the game actually mentions any of the other decisions in ME1 or 2. Although, I haven't read the leaked script from last year, only read the ending and played the demo. If they actually don't mention anything at all from the previous games, I'll be pretty pissed myself. For now though, I'll just wait for the game to come out.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34937613]Actually now that you say that, the part where the Normandy's ejecting it's escape pods in ME2 would be a good "Abandon thread" gif.[/QUOTE] Or abandon series for those who want to be controversial.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;34937647]What were his reasons for not playing the first two?[/QUOTE] too busy with the latest CoD's or Killzones or other shooters he only wants this one because of trailers ...
[QUOTE=Sardonus;34937748]too busy with the latest CoD's or Killzones or other shooters he only wants this one because of trailers ...[/QUOTE] So, basically, he's THAT GUY.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;34937540] [thumb]http://www.primagamesdev.com/blog/01-003.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE] since when were shepard and anderson that close to a reaper in vancouver? unless that is a later part in the game or something
[QUOTE=milktree;34937877]since when were shepard and anderson that close to a reaper in vancouver? unless that is a later part in the game or something[/QUOTE] that's the reaper that blew up the dreadnaught
^ He hasn't played the demo?
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