[QUOTE=Clementine;35043595]How do I import my ME2 save to ME3? :([/QUOTE]Don't worry about it. Just save yourself the trouble and create a new character. Not like any of it matters in the end anyway.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35043665]Don't worry about it. Just save yourself the trouble and create a new character. Not like any of it matters in the end anyway.[/QUOTE]
Alrighty
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35043626]dude, that actually makes me so insanely happy to see Conrad back, and get the girl? And to see someone I rescued in the first game make a cameo in the third? This is why I loved Mass Effect. It did shit like this. It made sure all your decisions paid off in some way.[/QUOTE]
Half assed voice acting, character animations, voices, logic, cutscene action (lol shoot someone in a crowded makeshift-hospital and no-one gives a fuck), storyline that is Star Control done bad, dialogue made by 5th-grader.
No, seriously, the storyline is almost step-to-step ripoff from SC2
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35043555]yeah, I really feel the endings in Deus Ex 1 were much better because we hadn't been crafting JC Denton for 3 games, or have we been going through an epic trilogy where all our decisions carry over
If Mass Effect was one single game, the endings wouldn't have bothered me
but it's a trilogy, and the fact that the choices you made throughout the series mean jack shit really irritate me
Did the writers from the first 2 games quit, or something? This one seriously seems like the writing took a nosedive.[/QUOTE]
Kardashyn or whatever his face was quit after ME1. They also scrapped his original idea for the ending.
See, that's the other thing. If they wanted to make the endings be like the Deus Ex endings, IE world altering and super important, they should have made a metric fuckload of them.
Maybe break them down into smaller bits. For example:
[sp]Destroy ending could be broken down into:
Destroy all synthetic life
Destroy all Reaper tech
Destroy all Reapers
Merge ending could be broken down into:
Merge all life into one gestalt conciousness
"Blend" life together, giving organic life the advantages of synthetic life and vis versa
Empathic synergy, where you bestow machines with the understanding of emotion and abstract thought
And Control could be split into:
As it is. Shepard assumes direct control of the reapers, leading them away or whatever the fuck.
The same as it is, but instead when Shepard assumes control he uses the Reapers to control and safeguard life for the rest of eternity, acting as guardians.
Instead of merging with the Reapers, Shepard wipes their conciousness clean and turns them into nothing more than automatons under his control. He uses their technology to grant himself immortality and becomes galactic emperor for the rest of time, ruling the universe as a benevolent/tyrannical dictator.[/sp]
And that took me, what, fifteen minutes to come up with? Just make what you can choose from dependent on what you've done in the previous games, and there you go. Good end.
...anyone getting a Duke Nukem Forever vibe off Mass Effect 3?
>We all expected greatness (or in duke's case, decency)
>early copies released, rumours surface
>Mass denial and rage
>after game comes out, sadness everywhere
the lesson I learned is when I get hyped for things god punishes me
[editline]8th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35043706]Kardashyn or whatever his face was quit after ME1. They also scrapped his original idea for the ending.
See, that's the other thing. If they wanted to make the endings be like the Deus Ex endings, IE world altering and super important, they should have made a metric fuckload of them.
Maybe break them down into smaller bits. For example:
[sp]Destroy ending could be broken down into:
Destroy all synthetic life
Destroy all Reaper tech
Destroy all Reapers
Merge ending could be broken down into:
Merge all life into one gestalt conciousness
"Blend" life together, giving organic life the advantages of synthetic life and vis versa
Empathic synergy, where you bestow machines with the understanding of emotion and abstract thought
And Control could be split into:
As it is. Shepard assumes direct control of the reapers, leading them away or whatever the fuck.
The same as it is, but instead when Shepard assumes control he uses the Reapers to control and safeguard life for the rest of eternity, acting as guardians.
Instead of merging with the Reapers, Shepard wipes their conciousness clean and turns them into nothing more than automatons under his control. He uses their technology to grant himself immortality and becomes galactic emperor for the rest of time, ruling the universe as a benevolent/tyrannical dictator.[/sp]
And that took me, what, fifteen minutes to come up with? Just make what you can choose from dependent on what you've done in the previous games, and there you go. Good end.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Control ending confuses me cause why can't a paragon Shepard control them and have them all just dick around for millenia and never do anything
problem solved. Anyone fucks with the alliance, and you've got reapers[/sp]
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35043615]I'd almost be willing to buy the game all over again if Bioware would make the ending not shitty.[/QUOTE]
Remember when Bioware got that Mass effect book filled with inaccuracies edited in later editions because everyone got riled up about it?
We can only hope something similar could happen.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35043651]Okay, Delta, I don't even care about the dumb ratings I'm letting this one out
Would any of you guys have preferred if the Reapers were left mysterious? I liked them a lot better when they were "BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION"
although he did give me fair warning.
That makes no fucking sense.[/QUOTE]I'd have preferred it if[sp] the Reapers had actually been this old race of sentient machines that used organics as basically lab rats and a means to build their race better and stronger. Instead we got them as the tools of some demented God/Child/Hitler combination hell bent on have the most idiotic plan possible for handling a situation that, as it happens, handled itself. In fact, if they had just stayed away and not interfered at all, the Quarians would have eventually destroyed the Geth anyway making their entire reason for arriving pointless. The only reason the Geth managed to hold off the Quarian assault was because the Reapers intervened and upgraded them.[/sp]
Mass effect 3 is good...
Just because it's different the other two doesn't mean it's terrible
All this talk of Deus Ex makes me want to play it again
but it hasn't aged very well :v: Excuse my spoiled-ness, but if anything needs an HD re-release, it's not Halo, or Half Life, it's Deus Ex.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35043718][sp]Control ending confuses me cause why can't a paragon Shepard control them and have them all just dick around for millenia and never do anything
problem solved. Anyone fucks with the alliance, and you've got reapers[/sp][/QUOTE][sp]The control the Reapers ending IS the Paragon ending though. In whatever world that makes sense, but it is.[/sp]
You know what an awesome ending would be? This might verge on melodrama, but there was this awesome bit in the Fantastic Four cartoon where the Ghost Rider fights Galactus.
See, what he does is make Galactus feel all of the pain felt by the countless billions he'd killed, using his own destructive nature against him by forcing empathy onto him.
Why not do something similar with the Reapers, where you sort of mind meld with them for a fleeting moment, making them human enough for long enough to understand the suffering of their own actions? I don't know, at least then the whole build up with Shepard being part synthetic would make sense.
[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;35043736]Remember when Bioware got that Mass effect book filled with inaccuracies edited in later editions because everyone got riled up about it?
We can only hope something similar could happen.[/QUOTE]What, that we get a "Deus Ex Machina" DLC to remove all the [sp]Deus Ex-esque style from the ending?[/sp]
Soo.... Is the entire story [sp]a bedtime story or was that made up?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35043766][sp]The control the Reapers ending IS the Paragon ending though. In whatever world that makes sense, but it is.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Seriously, why doesn't Shepard use the Reapers to establish galactic peace for the rest of eternity?
They're like, infinitely powerful. He could stop any war in it's tracks before it begins, ending conflict for the rest of eternity.
Guy is one unimaginative motherfucker.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35043767]You know what an awesome ending would be? This might verge on melodrama, but there was this awesome bit in the Fantastic Four cartoon where the Ghost Rider fights Galactus.
See, what he does is make Galactus feel all of the pain felt by the countless billions he'd killed, using his own destructive nature against him by forcing empathy onto him.
Why not do something similar with the Reapers, where you sort of mind meld with them for a fleeting moment, making them human enough for long enough to understand the suffering of their own actions? I don't know, at least then the whole build up with Shepard being part synthetic would make sense.[/QUOTE][sp]They already laid the ground work for it when you enter the Geth Collective with Legion.[/sp]
And that actually sounds a lot like how Dragon Rend works in Skyrim.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35043781]What, that we get a "Deus Ex Machina" DLC to remove all the [sp]Deus Ex-esque style from the ending?[/sp][/QUOTE]
The title would imply that it'd add more Deus Ex stuff to the game.
[sp]JC Denton and Adam Jensen confirmed for DLC-Squadmates.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35043767]You know what an awesome ending would be? This might verge on melodrama, but there was this awesome bit in the Fantastic Four cartoon where the Ghost Rider fights Galactus.
See, what he does is make Galactus feel all of the pain felt by the countless billions he'd killed, using his own destructive nature against him by forcing empathy onto him.
Why not do something similar with the Reapers, where you sort of mind meld with them for a fleeting moment, making them human enough for long enough to understand the suffering of their own actions? I don't know, at least then the whole build up with Shepard being part synthetic would make sense.[/QUOTE]
Anything better than what we had
I re-propse my canon ending
once the Reapers make their final attack, Garrus and Wrex don jetpacks, and Claymores, and Shepard does the same. They fly to space, and beat the living shit out of Harbinger and his Reaper army with their fists. They then toss all the Reapers into a black hole. Shepard returns to earth for an orgy with Jack, Tali, Liara, Miranda, Kelly, and Kaidan, Wrex returns to Tuchanka for a bloody orgy, and Garrus goes to the citadel and scores with 30 asaris.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35043795]Seriously, why doesn't Shepard use the Reapers to establish galactic peace for the rest of eternity?
They're like, infinitely powerful. He could stop any war in it's tracks before it begins, ending conflict for the rest of eternity.
Guy is one unimaginative motherfucker.[/QUOTE][sp]Because he gets disintegrated by the twin pillars of lightning he grabs on to.
Oh, and why couldn't Shepard just stand back from the pipe on the Destruction side of the last area? The explosion on the station wasn't that big, if he had just backed away, he'd have been out of the explosion.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35043651]Okay, Delta, I don't even care about the dumb ratings I'm letting this one out[/QUOTE]
Good, you shouldn't.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;35043784]Soo.... Is the entire story [sp]a bedtime story or was that made up?[/sp][/QUOTE]No,the events of the story happened, its just [sp]being retold to some bratty kid who seems an awful lot like the Hitler god-child in the future.[/sp]
[editline]7th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35043706]And that took me, what, fifteen minutes to come up with? Just make what you can choose from dependent on what you've done in the previous games, and there you go. Good end.[/QUOTE][sp]And don't make it so that Shepard dies regardless of what you do.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35043767]You know what an awesome ending would be? This might verge on melodrama, but there was this awesome bit in the Fantastic Four cartoon where the Ghost Rider fights Galactus.
See, what he does is make Galactus feel all of the pain felt by the countless billions he'd killed, using his own destructive nature against him by forcing empathy onto him.
[/QUOTE]
The Inheritance Cycle pretty much used that exact ending. Paolini was bitched out for it. If Bioware did it, there would probably be angry fans storming their headquarters.
I still cant get over fact that games nowadays make the faith of all of humanity (or in this case the galaxy) lies in the hand of the one superhero.
I'd rather not have the superhero make a decision that'd [sp]turn me into a half-robot suddenly and give me green glowy glyphs[/sp].
guys
in these dark times
just remember
this company made Baldurs Gate, KoTOR, the first Mass Effect, the second, and Dragon Age origins
in my mind they're still allowed a place in heaven
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35043537]This is going to be one of those rare moments when I just flat-out refuse to acknowledge the given ending to a work and instead substitute it with a better one.[/QUOTE]
I'm probably going to do the same. Then I'm going to take the ending .bik files and replace them with a "proper" ending. Should be fun.
[QUOTE=markfu;35043879]The Inheritance Cycle pretty much used that exact ending. Paolini was bitched out for it. If Bioware did it, there would probably be angry fans storming their headquarters.[/QUOTE]
There was no feasible way to make Mass Effect 3 end in a way that would please everyone
some fans would complain it wasn't good enough
others would complain it wasn't dark and grim enough
they appealed to the latter
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35043891]guys
in these dark times
just remember
this company made Baldurs Gate, KoTOR, the first Mass Effect, the second, and Dragon Age origins
in my mind they're still allowed a place in heaven[/QUOTE]
I'm just going to go ahead and say it: I certainly have a few gripes (both minor and major) about Mass Effect 3, but overall I think the game is superb. That said, I'm only 15 hours in so maybe my opinion will change.
Still can't quote, so @Sardonus' post:
"Would any of you guys have preferred if the Reapers were left mysterious? I liked them a lot better when they were "BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION""
They never were beyond comprehension:
Sovereign: Our reasons are beyond your comprehension!
Shepard: Try me.
Sovereign: We are synthetics [sp]which were originally organics designed to stop the rise of synthetics by the hand of organics by killing the organics before they can kill the synthetics so that organics dont get wiped out by synthetics and the organics we will preserve by making them synthetics.[/sp]
Shepard: You're wrong, your reasons aren't beyond comprehension, they make no sense.
And was I the only one expecting Aria to call and ask you to [sp]Help her retake Omega from Cerberus at some point? It felt like they had originally intended to do that, but it was left out for some reason. (I know why, they're planning to make it future DLC. Its painfully obvious.) That and I never saw or heard anything about the mercenaries you gathered for her. Apparently they forgot to join the fight.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35043938]And was I the only one expecting Aria to call and ask you to [sp]Help her retake Omega from Cerberus at some point? It felt like they had originally intended to do that, but it was left out for some reason. (I know why, they're planning to make it future DLC. Its painfully obvious.) That and I never saw or heard anything about the mercenaries you gathered for her. Apparently they forgot to join the fight.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Oh my god THIS!
That's why I went to the citadel, I expected a bitching bloodbath bondin' with blue babes.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35043891]guys
in these dark times
just remember
this company made Baldurs Gate, KoTOR, the first Mass Effect, the second, and Dragon Age origins
in my mind they're still allowed a place in heaven[/QUOTE]
i honestly liked KOTOR 2 more than 1, with the restoration patch
it was more complex emotionally, it dealt with the greyness of morality and the philosophy beyond the dark side and the light side. It just had more philosophical meat in my opinion.
[sp]though nothing beats learning you're revan and then having zaalbar choke mission to death, now that is some mega evil[/sp]
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