[QUOTE=Feuver;35067337]When you can straight out mate with your brain, I don't know how much further you can evolve, to be honest.
[editline]9th March 2012[/editline]
No, it's either [sp]Rachnis or Aralakh. Grunt always live[/sp][/QUOTE]
Only if he's loyal
Okay guys so question here...
[sp]Where the hell does the collector station come into the story if I saved it? I'm on the earth mission and haven't seen/heard anything about it in this one, other than seeing the pieces of the human reaper in the Cerberus station.
Also, what happened to Miranda? I romanced her in the second one and in the third game, but now I also went renegade when I saw her dad and was able to save her and her sister. I haven't seen/heard from her and I'm on earth now... Any help as to what's going on here? [/sp]
[QUOTE=kman866;35067488]Okay guys so question here...
[sp]Where the hell does the collector station come into the story if I saved it? I'm on the earth mission and haven't seen/heard anything about it in this one, other than seeing the pieces of the human reaper in the Cerberus station.
Also, what happened to Miranda? I romanced her in the second one and in the third game, but now I also went renegade when I saw her dad and was able to save her and her sister. I haven't seen/heard from her and I'm on earth now... Any help as to what's going on here? [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Collector Station gives you either Reaper Heart or Reaper Brain, which is 100 and 110 War Assets respectively. Miranda goes... Somewhere, you'll get a chance to speak to her later in the mission, before you encounter Anderson.[/sp]
So is anyone else getting lots of freezing on the XBox? I mean, it's only frozen twice, but at really inopportune moments. Just now I was literally 47 seconds away from completing an MP game with flying colors, and it froze when I shot a Banshee.
On the plus side, MP is really fun.
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35067402]You can give yourself as many credits as you want like this
Or you could get the save editor from my post on this page and then edit it there.
Its built off his ME2 save editor but you can access the GAW section, haven't figured out if its possible to tweak it without just editing the MP save section.[/QUOTE]
Thank you my friend.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35067436]Just finished the game, and all I got to say about it is the ending was [I]amazing.[/I] I'm sure in a week or two I'll be criticizing it or talking about how there could've been a better way, but the ending on it's own merits was great.
[sp]Mass Effect was [I]always[/I] about the struggle between organics and synthetics, it was just never made overtly obvious. Also the Catalyst being a child was symbolic as fuck.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The child ruined it for me. I would have preferred a super badass alien like Harbinger or Sovereign.[/sp]
When importing a save game into ME3, is it possible to change your class/powers at the beginning of the game/at all?
[QUOTE=DarkWolf2;35067588]When importing a save game into ME3, is it possible to change your class/powers at the beginning of the game/at all?[/QUOTE]
You can change on the Normandy, on the Medical Bay.
And respec too.
[QUOTE=oogaboogaman;35067587][sp]The child ruined it for me. I would have preferred a super badass alien like Harbinger or Sovereign.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The Catalyst takes on the role as childish creator, it's innocent and, well, "pure." It's supposed to be God, in essence.[/sp]
you're gonna go to space: people are too dim for this shit
you're gonna go to space: they insult fans of call of duty because the game's marketing was bad
you're gonna go to space: and they're idiots to comprehend values like this ending has
[QUOTE=Egevened;35067668]you're gonna go to space: people are too dim for this shit
you're gonna go to space: they insult fans of call of duty because the game's marketing was bad
you're gonna go to space: and they're idiots to comprehend values like this ending has[/QUOTE]
Yeah we know you enjoyed and came all over the endings, why can't you shut up about it. We're all entitled to our own opinion.
We're all idiots because we don't like the ending we're given to a 150 hours long trilogy? The ending didn't give any closure, it just popped even more questions that will be answered by Bioware DLCs or their Mass Effect MMO game. Of course, you could say they left it to interpretation, but seriously, after [sp]Destroying all the Mass relays, it's pretty hard to imagine anything good out of it. There's also little to no reason why the Mass Relay exploded, it sort of felt forced to me. [/sp]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35067715]Yeah we know you enjoyed and came all over the endings, why can't you shut up about it. We're all entitled to our own opinion.
We're all idiots because we don't like the ending we're given to a 150 hours long trilogy? The ending didn't give any closure, it just popped even more questions that will be answered by Bioware DLCs or their Mass Effect MMO game. Of course, you could say they left it to interpretation, but seriously, after [sp]Destroying all the Mass relays, it's pretty hard to imagine anything good out of it. There's also little to no reason why the Mass Relay exploded, it sort of felt forced to me. [/sp][/QUOTE]
What about [sp] Liara, EDI, or Garrus being in the ending? Especially if they came with you on the Earth mission. Also what was Joker doing flying away in the Normandy when a war was still happening on Earth at the time of the exploding relays, that leads back to a previous question how did those team members get back on the Normandy in time to flee?[/sp]
If anyone has answers I'd love to know
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35067768]What about [sp] Liara, EDI, or Garrus being in the ending? Especially if they came with you on the Earth mission. Also what was Joker doing flying away in the Normandy when a war was still happening on Earth at the time of the exploding relays, that leads back to a previous question how did those team members get back on the Normandy in time to flee?[/sp]
If anyone has answers I'd love to know[/QUOTE]
[sp]I imagine he's flying away from Earth because a gigantic wave of raw energy is barreling towards them. It's also difficult to determine exactly how much time passes between Shepard passing out, to Shepard entering the Citadel, opening the Arms and finishing the discussion with Catalyst, so there's plenty of time for them to escape.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35067793][sp]I imagine he's flying away from Earth because a gigantic wave of raw energy is barreling towards them.[/sp][/QUOTE]
I considered that which makes a bit more sense but still leaves me with quite a few questions.
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35067768]What about [sp] Liara, EDI, or Garrus being in the ending? Especially if they came with you on the Earth mission. Also what was Joker doing flying away in the Normandy when a war was still happening on Earth at the time of the exploding relays, that leads back to a previous question how did those team members get back on the Normandy in time to flee?[/sp]
If anyone has answers I'd love to know[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that confused me a lot.
(ending spoilers)
[sp]I brought Garrus and Tali to the final rush toward the beam. Apparently everyone died on their way, so I assumed they'd both be dead, but next thing we know they're on the Normandy flying away from Earth at FTL speed. What the fuck? [/sp]
Plus, we don't really have any closure on the characters. [sp] As someone said, every fleet that was close to Earth most probably didn't have the time to go back to their homeworld, making Earth the new alien hub. The Turian and Quarians wouldn't be able to get any nurishment in such a world, so they'd have to survive on what they had on their ships, which I suppose only the Quarians would be able to do so for a long while. The Earth was completely devastated in the Reaper war, so Humans that survived the war would need to find nurishment - somewhat easier to do, but still hard as all hell. Depending on your choices, the Geth could be able to help you or not, and the Reapers would or not. If Shephard held control over the Reaper, did he warn everyone else that he was now part of the Reaper framework? How will he get the ressources to build all the mass relays that were decimated during the use of the Crucible? Working the relays could probably take centuries, meanwhile most survivors of the Reaper War would be left on Earth. They'd also have to fix their ships with spare parts.
The ending really didn't give any closure. Even if it's all a story, who ends a story with "Well, Joker, Edi and someone else moved out of the normandy, looked at the new world and looked somewhat happy. The end." [/sp]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35067881]Yeah, that confused me a lot.
(ending spoilers)
[sp]I brought Garrus and Tali to the final rush toward the beam. Apparently everyone died on their way, so I assumed they'd both be dead, but next thing we know they're on the Normandy flying away from Earth at FTL speed. What the fuck? [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Your party members never go with you towards the beam, they apparently leave following the vehicle crash.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35067881]Yeah, that confused me a lot.
(ending spoilers)
[sp]I brought Garrus and Tali to the final rush toward the beam. Apparently everyone died on their way, so I assumed they'd both be dead, but next thing we know they're on the Normandy flying away from Earth at FTL speed. What the fuck? [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I think the lack of closure makes the ending suck in my opinion at least. You don't know what happens to anybody or what will happen to anybody. Yeah, my choices didn't really matter that much in the ending but at the very least they could have some explanation or epilogue or something. As far as I am concerned, everybody is fucked.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35067915][sp]Your party members never go with you towards the beam, they apparently leave following the vehicle crash.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]But that makes no sense, even Anderson told everyone that if they couldn't make it to the Beam, we were all dead, so they'd rush in anyway? ARGH, THE CONFUSION. [/sp]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35068002][sp]But that makes no sense, even Anderson told everyone that if they couldn't make it to the Beam, we were all dead, so they'd rush in anyway? ARGH, THE CONFUSION. [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Especially when Garrus said he'd be with you to the very end. That liar. :( [/sp]
[sp] the Normandy was flying away as canuhearme? said from all the energy, this leaves me to thinking that the Earth isn't a hub of anything its pretty much gone as are all the ships from and around Earth[/sp]
Unless this was mentioned somewhere else?
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35067915][sp]Your party members never go with you towards the beam, they apparently leave following the vehicle crash.[/sp][/QUOTE]
They were in the vehicle on the way there
[QUOTE=SirKillsAlot;35067935][sp]I think the lack of closure makes the ending suck in my opinion at least. You don't know what happens to anybody or what will happen to anybody. Yeah, my choices didn't really matter that much in the ending but at the very least they could have some explanation or epilogue or something. As far as I am concerned, everybody is fucked.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] In fact, the ending made most of mass Effect 2 and 3 completely useless. The assets are only useful to change the ending you get, which then even makes no sense because only Shephard changes the world, not the fleets. If you made peace between the Quarians and the Geth, you could end up destroying the Geth and leaving poor Quarians stranded on their homeworld. The symbiosis ending is the best ending by far, but even then, the mass relays are fucked in the ass, so the best hope would be to control the Reapers and rebuild the relays, which then fixes nothing at all.
I mean, this was brought up by someone earlier, but WHY can't you convince the Reaper framework that co-existence CAN WORK, and point to the geth and Quarians. Wouldn't THAT be the Paragon ending, that even the Reaper has to acknowledge that Synthetic life doesn't have to destroy organic ones. Hell, even EDI proves it by being a completely synthetic life-form that acts now like a human, and even wants to protect them, without even having to be code to do so. Of course, this accounts for the Power of love ending, but seriously, Paragon is the power of love ending. All the way from Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 3, you fix everything by showing how things can work out if everybody thinks together toward an ideal. You even end several hundreds years old war by your simple voice, and you can't even speak the Reapers out of a Cycle that makes no sense because they are based on Calculus that can be wrong?
TO add more to this ,because I can, you speak directly to a Reaper on Rannoch, after killing it by yourself. If you again go Paragon, you can fucking intimate the Reaper into acknowledging the power of an united Galaxy. AND EVEN THEN THAT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. ARRRGH[/sp]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35068078][sp] In fact, the ending made most of mass Effect 2 and 3 completely useless. The assets are only useful to change the ending you get, which then even makes no sense because only Shephard changes the world, not the fleets. If you made peace between the Quarians and the Geth, you could end up destroying the Geth and leaving poor Quarians stranded on their homeworld. The symbiosis ending is the best ending by far, but even then, the mass relays are fucked in the ass, so the best hope would be to control the Reapers and rebuild the relays, which then fixes nothing at all.
I mean, this was brought up by someone earlier, but WHY can't you convince the Reaper framework that co-existence CAN WORK, and point to the geth and Quarians. Wouldn't THAT be the Paragon ending, that even the Reaper has to acknowledge that Synthetic life doesn't have to destroy humanoid one. Hell, even EDI proves it by being a completely synthetic life-form that acts now like a human, and even wants to protect them, without even having to be code to do so. [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Yeah to be honest I expected a good ending where you'd paragon your way into getting the Reapers to go away or destroy them or something without too much chaos. The whole choose bad option A or worse option B thing was so annoying that it is nothing short of a Pyrrhic victory when everything blows up.[/sp]
fuck fuck fuck [sp] kill or upgrade geth[/sp]
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35068055][sp] the Normandy was flying away as canuhearme? said from all the energy, this leaves me to thinking that the Earth isn't a hub of anything its pretty much gone as are all the ships from and around Earth[/sp]
Unless this was mentioned somewhere else?[/QUOTE]
[sp]Well I don't think the wave of energy destroys the ships, just disables them. I don't know what that means for the people on the ships as I imagine they're not functional and I doubt the escape pods would not be disabled. So they'll be trapped aboard the ships until they crash land somewhere. [/sp]
[editline]9th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35068078][sp] In fact, the ending made most of mass Effect 2 and 3 completely useless. The assets are only useful to change the ending you get, which then even makes no sense because only Shephard changes the world, not the fleets. If you made peace between the Quarians and the Geth, you could end up destroying the Geth and leaving poor Quarians stranded on their homeworld. The symbiosis ending is the best ending by far, but even then, the mass relays are fucked in the ass, so the best hope would be to control the Reapers and rebuild the relays, which then fixes nothing at all.
I mean, this was brought up by someone earlier, but WHY can't you convince the Reaper framework that co-existence CAN WORK, and point to the geth and Quarians. Wouldn't THAT be the Paragon ending, that even the Reaper has to acknowledge that Synthetic life doesn't have to destroy organic ones. Hell, even EDI proves it by being a completely synthetic life-form that acts now like a human, and even wants to protect them, without even having to be code to do so. Of course, this accounts for the Power of love ending, but seriously, Paragon is the power of love ending. All the way from Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 3, you fix everything by showing how things can work out if everybody thinks together toward an ideal. You even end several hundreds years old war by your simple voice, and you can't even speak the Reapers out of a Cycle that makes no sense because they are based on Calculus that can be wrong?
TO add more to this ,because I can, you speak directly to a Reaper on Rannoch, after killing it by yourself. If you again go Paragon, you can fucking intimate the Reaper into acknowledging the power of an united Galaxy. AND EVEN THEN THAT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. ARRRGH[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Yeah Shepard doesn't just accept what he/she is given. Shepard can solve any problem through yelling very loudly at it, so I figure why not yell at the VI until it listened.[/sp]
[QUOTE=GetBent;35068397]
[sp]Yeah Shepard doesn't just accept what he/she is given. Shepard can solve any problem through yelling very loudly at it, so I figured why not yell at the VI until it listened.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The Catalyst wasn't exactly a VI, it was pretty much something a lot more incomprehensible then even the Reapers. The last 10 minutes of the game was pretty full of symbolism. There's a reason Bioware made the Catalyst a child. Hell, for all intents and purposes Shepard was talking to God.[/sp]
[QUOTE=GetBent;35068397][sp]Well I don't think the wave of energy destroys the ships, just disables them. I don't know what that means for the people on the ships as I imagine they're not functional and I doubt the escape pods would not be disabled. So they'll be trapped aboard the ships until they crash land somewhere. [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] The relays were destroyed, and if memory serves me right an exploding relay is more than enough to wipe out an entire solar system[/sp]
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35068439][sp] The relays were destroyed, and if memory serves me right an exploding relay is more than enough to wipe out an entire solar system[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]It wasn't an explosion like the one in Arrival. It released energy that destroys only synthetic life. In the ending cinematic, when it hits Earth it passes by those soldiers and leaves them unharmed[/sp]
Also, for anyone that wants the good Mass Effect 3 ending, just watch the Gears of Wars 3 ending. [sp] Imagine the big machine is the crucible, the Bad guys are Reapers, Marcus is Shephard, Anya is your love interest, everybody is the characters you've helped. The woman that speaks nonsense (The locust queen) gets fucking stabbed and dies (The Catalyst) and the Reapers gets their ass kicked. Then you can sit down on the beach with your love interest and relax, thinking of everyone you've lost.[/sp]
[video=youtube;ej8IG5722DE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej8IG5722DE[/video]
AND YEAH, the similarity is fucking striking.
[QUOTE=GetBent;35068498][sp]It wasn't an explosion like the one in Arrival. It released energy that destroys only synthetic life. In the ending cinematic, when it hits Earth it passes by those soldiers and leaves them unharmed[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] I thought that was the energy from the expanding energy bubble around the citadel hitting Earth. When it hit the relays and started launching out into the galaxy the relays seemed to have overloaded[/sp] Could be mistaken but thats what it seemed like to me.
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