[QUOTE=EcksDee;35094525][sp]Unless you do Destroy ending with plenty of EMS.
Shepard survives, kinda[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]He'll probably die from nobody being able to find him anyways. Didn't like half of him die since he's half-synthetic?[/sp]
[QUOTE=gudman;35094488]And you know, nothing bad came out of it. Nothing that goes over the border of "Why oh why BioWare you would cut something brilliant like that?", and you know what? I can't actually disagree. That's one hell of an emotion-inducing dialogue. Brilliantly acted even, which is not that common for ME.[/QUOTE]
So, it was better to remove it, because it was a very well done scene? What? Does it just make the rest of the game look like shit in comparison or something?
Just finished ME3, the ending was biggest disappointment for me since LOST (and that was at least drawn out over several seasons, ME3's gut-punch of an ending lasted ten minutes).
But the thing that bothers me alot more than other people is [sp]what they did to the Reapers[/sp]
[sp]The Reapers were some of the scariest, most enigmatic enemies is any video game I've played. Horrible, genocidal monsters that harvest civilizations, with minds so advanced we cannot even comprehend them. They commit indescribable atrocities, not just in how many they kill but how they do it: trapping people in cages, taking over their minds, and eventually melting them down into paste for use in making more Reapers. Then, we finally meet the driving force behind this galactic holocaust:
A little fucking kid. Yes, I know he's an AI, and I know he's projecting himself as that image in Shepard's mind or whatever, but it totally sets the wrong tone. Seeing a 5 year-old talk about how he controls the Reapers just feels... out of place. Reapers are monsters with no empathy, this AI is nice, helpful, and helps you destroy/control the Reapers for no other reason than you showed up.
And then they try to explain why the Reapers harvest civilizations: the little kid doesn't want chaos to happen because organics will naturally go to war with synthetics, so he creates synthetics that destroy all organics... wait, what? Even if that made any damn sense at all, it totally fucks with the whole "we are beyond your comprehension" vibe of the Reapers. Or maybe they are beyond our comprehension, because I can't comprehend how that's anything but the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of.
I could go on about how losing the mass relays makes half of what you did pointless (I guess Tali won't ever see her homeworld again after all?) , and how little closure there is, but plenty of people have already talked about that).[/sp]
TL;DR:[sp]The leader of the Reapers is a fucking five year-old who rapes the galaxy because he wants organics and synthetics to play nice? And then he lets you stop the Reapers because you just showed up? WTF?[/sp]
I know a lot of people are talking about alternate/fixed ending DLC, and though I'd gain massive respect for Bioware if they did I'm not counting on it, (that'd be way to much effort on Bioware's part). Still, Mass Effect was one of the greatest video game series I've ever played and I am extremely grateful for Bioware's hard work, it's just a shame that those last crappy minutes had to leave it with such a bad taste in my mouth.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;35094559]At-least the rest of the game was great.
Honestly ME3 is amazing if I dump my brain and don't question the endings, the bad plot-writing, or why all the characters are much more overly emotional than they ever were in ME1-ME2.
Gotta find some enjoyment out of the 160+ USD my BF and I paid, right? :v:[/QUOTE]
The ride to the end was fucking awesome. But now I'm trying hard as fuck to fill in the blanks with my own imagination just to take the edge off the incredibly large loose ends they left.
[QUOTE=Flicky;35094567][sp]He'll probably die from nobody being able to find him anyways. Didn't like half of him die since he's half-synthetic?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]It's most probably London, notice the brick-like rubble.[/sp] Or it's all bullshit.
The "hallucination" idea makes sense, especially because [sp] you can't save in a dream![/sp] :/
[QUOTE=Sharp_Shooter;35094582]The ride to the end was fucking awesome. But now I'm trying hard as fuck to fill in the blanks with my own imagination just to take the edge off the incredibly large loose ends they left.[/QUOTE]
TL:DR BITCH FEST OF PLOT SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
The ride was "awesome" until I sat there and thought about it.
[sp]You don't learn Kai-Leng's motives. He is injected in the plot, I don't care about the books, as that is no excuse. Paul Grayson is mentioned several times, he is from the books. I didn't know who the fuck he was or what the game was talking about, I had to look him up.
Tali acts oddly, sounding like she's going to cry at the randomest moments and than scopes out a house and claims Rannoch property. She's always been shown to be a level-headed character who put the Fleet before herself. I guess its taking a toll on her, but its still weird. Along with claiming that land, like what the fuck?
(For the record, I don't think the drinking scene is meant to be funny, she's litreally drowning her pathetic sorrows while your Shepard acts in a deadpan way. She's the only one to do this, does it alone, and doesn't even have music on)
Udnia(sp) is great because his motives nor reasons are ever given, yet again. You are not told why Anderson left the council, you have to read a book/comic to find out. This is unacceptable, as Mac-Walters said you don't need both to enjoy one or the other.
Thane is full of shit and just confuses me, he states he can barely do things, but than he does a fucking cliche ninja battle with Kai-Leng?
So you're right, ME3 was fucking awesome, as long as I turned my brain off and just played it through. I guess I must be weird, I should have been popping boners at the sex appeal, dawing at cute Talis and just being like "omg yes so good".
But I wasn't.... :v:[/sp]
[QUOTE=Fables;35094577]So, it was better to remove it, because it was a very well done scene? What? Does it just make the rest of the game look like shit in comparison or something?[/QUOTE]
No answers are forthcoming yet, from what I've heard. It's a mystery, I guess. It's just strange, as it really is a great dialogue, with great acting. Cut to 1/4, maybe it was too long?
[QUOTE=gudman;35094647]No answers are forthcoming yet, from what I've heard. It's a mystery, I guess. It's just strange, as it really is a great dialogue, with great acting. Cut to 1/4, maybe it was too long?[/QUOTE]
So everyone is allowed their own Personal missions in ME2, and technically ME3 (the Cameos), but Anderson isn't allowed to just have some-goddamn man to man talk to Shepard as a person, not a soldier, [sp]before dying?[/sp]
[QUOTE=doommarine23;35094661]So everyone is allowed their own Personal missions in ME2, and technically ME3 (the Cameos), but Anderson isn't allowed to just have some-goddamn man to man talk to Shepard as a person, not a soldier, before dying?[/QUOTE]
What if you are playing as a woman :v:
[QUOTE=Arvuti;35094669]What if you are playing as a woman :v:[/QUOTE]
You get what I mean, a person to person talk, as people.
Wow fuck you Vega, so because I don't let you call me "Lola" I get some pissy attitude?
I am [i]so[/i] going Virmire on your ass.
[QUOTE=Vasili;35094641][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRRpGlmtws8[/media]
lol really
really[/QUOTE]
I mean, at least now I didn't waste money.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;35094661]So everyone is allowed their own Personal missions in ME2, and technically ME3 (the Cameos), but Anderson isn't allowed to just have some-goddamn man to man talk to Shepard as a person, not a soldier, [sp]before dying?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Ffff spoilers.
[QUOTE=ijyt;35094687]Ffff spoilers.[/QUOTE]
Oops sorry, completely blanked my mind.
[editline]11th March 2012[/editline]
Fixed it :v:
I wonder what Pascall's reaction would be to the ending since [sp]if you romance Garrus you become seperated from him with no way to get to him[/sp]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35094475]Not to mention her "perfect assets" were obsolete by the time ME3 rolled around, since I could swear Ashley/Liara's tits are bigger then hers, and her ass is just starting to look... Weird instead of hot.[/QUOTE]
she always looked weird, like some balloons taped to a rake, it's just that in ME3 they didn't spend as much time making sure the animations didn't make her body look weird
also liara is more realistically proportioned hence animates better
Doommarine, for FUCK'S SAKE, not everyone's finished.
Oh yeah tali was fucking dumb in this game and to be honest I didn't really care about letting [sp]the quarians die[/sp]
[QUOTE=ijyt;35094680]Wow fuck you Vega, so because I don't let you call me "Lola" I get some pissy attitude?
I am [i]so[/i] going Virmire on your ass.[/QUOTE]
I know! My goddamn ship. You call me COMMANDER, you little shit.
And the he gets whiny. Vega's such an annoying shit, if only he wasn't useful in combat.
He's possibly my least favorite Mass Effect character.
When you talk to the [sp]Prothean VI, it says "indoctrinated presence detected" when Leng shows up. Why would Leng be taking orders from the Illusive Man if he's indoctrinated? I originally thought the Illusive Man was indoctrinated and probably did something to make all of Cerberus follow the Reapers, but why would the Reapers let his research continue? He planned on taking control of all Reapers, but why would they allow him to do this if he was under their control? Is it just Leng who was indoctrinated or is all of Cerberus? Or does the VI just think they're indoctrinated? If Leng really was working for the Reapers then why didn't he destroy the data of the Catalyst rather than taking it with him?[/sp]
I'm not trying to nitpick here, I really want an answer if there is one.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35094709]Doommarine, for FUCK'S SAKE, not everyone's finished.[/QUOTE]
Thats why I said spoilers up the ass. But sure, completely spoiler tagged everything.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;35094661]So everyone is allowed their own Personal missions in ME2, and technically ME3 (the Cameos), but Anderson isn't allowed to just have some-goddamn man to man talk to Shepard as a person, not a soldier, [sp]before dying?[/sp][/QUOTE]
There must be some reason. Though I can't think of even one - there's nothing in the world that can make you cut something brilliant like that out.
[QUOTE=Dirf;35094727]When you talk to the [sp]Prothean VI, it says "indoctrinated presence detected" when Leng shows up. Why would Leng be taking orders from the Illusive Man if he's indoctrinated? I originally thought the Illusive Man was indoctrinated and probably did something to make all of Cerberus follow the Reapers, but why would the Reapers let his research continue? He planned on taking control of all Reapers, but why would they allow him to do this if he was under their control? Is it just Leng who was indoctrinated or is all of Cerberus? Or does the VI just think they're indoctrinated? If Leng really was working for the Reapers then why didn't he destroy the data of the Catalyst rather than taking it with him?[/sp]
I'm not trying to nitpick here, I really want an answer if there is one.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Shepard is indoctrinated? It's all that makes sense anymore.[/sp]
There were three scenes that made me cry in ME3.
[sp]When Mordin died. "Would have liked to run tests on the seashells." ;-;
When Legion sacrificed himself to give the Geth intelligence, and the Geth lived in peace with the Quarians
and the end. Not because of how good/bad it was. Because I was thinking of what had happened to everyone. Essentially everyone died. Y'know, Mass Relays going bonkers and shit.[/sp]
[img]http://puu.sh/kmEJ[/img]
Seems legit
[sp]Mordin's death[/sp] was incredibly upsetting, but damn it all if it wasn't awesome.
[QUOTE=Dirf;35094727]When you talk to the [sp]Prothean VI, it says "indoctrinated presence detected" when Leng shows up. Why would Leng be taking orders from the Illusive Man if he's indoctrinated? I originally thought the Illusive Man was indoctrinated and probably did something to make all of Cerberus follow the Reapers, but why would the Reapers let his research continue? He planned on taking control of all Reapers, but why would they allow him to do this if he was under their control? Is it just Leng who was indoctrinated or is all of Cerberus? Or does the VI just think they're indoctrinated? If Leng really was working for the Reapers then why didn't he destroy the data of the Catalyst rather than taking it with him?[/sp]
I'm not trying to nitpick here, I really want an answer if there is one.[/QUOTE][sp]Cerberus indoctrinates their own soldiers from the sounds of it. I think Grissom Academy had a PDA saying something along those lines.[/sp]
[QUOTE=gamerman345;35094752][img]http://puu.sh/kmEJ[/img]
Seems legit[/QUOTE]
Well I'm surprised ign had the balls to say that
Edit: the "fitting finale" part that is
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