[QUOTE=darkrei9n;35104067]Woah woah incredibly inaccurate, theres bad red explosion, semi-bad red explosion, blue explosion and green explosion. Lets get that right at least.[/QUOTE]
If only they followed the original Magenta explosion...
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35104074]Wheres the option for no explosion?[/QUOTE]
ESC -> Quit
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35104074]Wheres the option for no explosion?[/QUOTE]
Somewhere in the realm of existance so far beyond our own we can't even imagine it.
[QUOTE=Conro101;35104091]ESC -> Quit[/QUOTE]
I thought that was what that did. So I chose the right ending?
Explanation for Shepard in [sp]the ending: "LET'S TAKE THE CITADEL, AND MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!"[/sp]
This thread is hell for me so many fucking spoilers that I mustn't click on.
I just read something
The REAPERS WERE ALREADY EXPLAINED PERFECTLY FINE IN MASS EFFECT 2
[QUOTE]They consider the brief existence of organic life to be undesireable. By turning them into Reapers, they think they're doing organics a favor by giving them a form of immortality and a greater state of existence.[/QUOTE]
the **** happened in ME3?
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35104119]the **** happened in ME3?[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;HQYQxsSo6IA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQYQxsSo6IA[/video]
lol vicoden
Haven't run into many Neo-Nazis huh?
[QUOTE=SystemGS;35103977][sp]Indoctrination theory makes the most sense, though.
If (in meta-analysis) Shepard can be influenced by the Illusive Man into shooting Anderson, then of course Harbinger can start to indoctrinate him. Of course, Harbinger's hold would be a bit stronger, but Shepard could also fight it. He's an extremely strong character, as we've seen throughout the entire series. Harbinger's attempt to control Shepard wouldn't come without a fight, which is what the metaphorical manifestation of the destroy option is. The control option, of course, allows the Reapers to live, while the synthesis option also provides an out for the Reapers. It would integrate all living things into the Reaper's processes, which could only serve to strengthen them. Then, they'd be able to move into other galaxies and conquer, just as they did in the Milky Way.
So, the indoctrination theory makes the most sense. Shepard's subconscious continues to fight in the same phenomenal Shepard style that we've become so accustomed to, which is represented by the destroy option. The reason why he doesn't question the kid is because, well, he's being indoctrinated. Indoctrinated subjects don't think, they simply do. The strongest thing Shepard's mind could do would be to move his metaphysical body to the pipe and shoot it. However, [i]this doesn't destroy the Reapers.[/i] The destroy option is, again, meant to be taken in a larger context. It's akin to the red versus blue pill scenario in The Matrix, where if Shepard chooses destruction, he wakes up. Neo, in the same situation, is offered a choice as Shepard is: destroy all of the things you know and wake up to the real world, or continue to live a lie. Shepard, in destroying the Reapers, chooses to wake up, even if it means destroying the Geth or EDI. In the end, however, they aren't killed. This is because it's all an indoctrination-based dream that Shepard has woken himself up from.
Honestly, it's JUST like the Anti-Spiral dream trap that Simon and his entire crew are put into in Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, if you know what I'm talking about. Breaking through this mental block proves Shepard's strength, whereupon he wakes up on Earth. From this point forward, I am speculating. Shepard is pulled from the rubble by a battle-scarred Anderson and his chosen squadmates, and all of them rush into the Conduit as Harbinger lifts off from Earth. They run through the Citadel, trying to find the control panel in time, fighting Reaper troops along the way. As the battle outside the Citadel rages, Shepard finally finds the panel and begins to open the arms. However, Harbinger then interrupts before the Crucible can begin approach, forcing it back. In the same way that Sovereign attached to the Citadel, so does Harbinger. It then begins to speak to Shepard, mocking him and such. The true intentions of the Reapers are revealed here: they were created as a means to stop civilizations from destroying the galaxy/universe. They deemed themselves gods of creation, continuing a perpetual cycle of destruction. However, Shepard then goes into a paragon/renegade speech about how he has united the entire galaxy to hold the same banner, to fight the Reapers. He shows Harbinger that the races of this cycle can maintain the universe, and Shepard will never stop fighting for that. "For everyone who has died before me, for everyone who will come after me, for these people, I continue to fight." The entire fleet assembled around him, fighting tooth and nail for their freedom from the oppressive machines, hears this via Shepard's comm relay and begins to rally around Shepard. The tides of the battle turn in their favor, and they begin their push on the Reaper offensive. As the Reaper line breaks, the Normandy spearheads an attack on Harbinger, who is ultimately destroyed as Shepard stares at him.
With the battle being won and Harbinger off of the Citadel, the Crucible is docked and Shepard is able to make his choice. It is then that the Illusive Man approaches, having crashed onto the Citadel in an attempt to take control of the Reapers for humanity's gain. Indoctrinated and mad with power, he brushes your squad aside, only to be stopped by Anderson. As the two square off, both try to convince you that you can change the galaxy for the greater. Anderson's plea is to destroy the Reapers, to end the cycle. The Illusive Man attempts to coax you into controlling the Reapers as he hoped to do. In the end, you are given your decision to save the galaxy from the Reapers or to take control of them and harness their power for your choices. That's up to you.
With this, there are a few different endings:
If you chose the destroy option, you have these: If you've united pretty much all of the galaxy, you maintain peace. If you have united only some of the galaxy, you maintain peace for a while, but ultimately crumble under your own weight. If you have pretty much no war assets, you destroy the Reapers but the fleet then turns on itself.
If you chose the control option, you have these: If you've united the galaxy, you take control of the Reapers and begin to help everyone. Happy ending with Reaper involvement. If you have only some of the galaxy, you fail to help everyone, alienating some allies, turning events into a new galactic war. If you listen to the Illusive Man, you use the Reapers to aid only humanity, essentially fulfilling the Illusive Man's hopes. Lastly, you can also end up becoming indoctrinated by the Reapers, which reignites the galactic cycle.
This is all speculation and hopes, so don't get worked up over it. Just one guy's ideas.[/sp][/QUOTE]
The sad part is that if this is true we'll have to pay 20$ to get that because it will be DLC. Bioware's damned if they do and damned if they don't. They can come forward and debunk the myth, which ruins their story writing integrity, or they can say it is canon and make it DLC, which ruins their image and integrity.
[QUOTE=noneshallpass;35104152]Okay maybe it's because I'm from the former ussr and the whole ww2 thing really fucked us over, but does anyone think that "the kid" looks like a fucking neo-nazi with that hair and stuff?[/QUOTE]
No, that's just ww2 thing really fucking you over. Just you, as I've never seen anything like what you're saying even on BSN. And that tells something.
Did anyone else have an issue when importing your Shepard's appearance? I had to redo mine from memory and some parts aren't right. Sucks 'cause I got him perfect. The only thing that didn't work in the second game's import was his hair.
[QUOTE=Dog;35104145][video=youtube;HQYQxsSo6IA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQYQxsSo6IA[/video][/QUOTE]
Do we really have to keep bashing her for something she had no part in? Criticize her writing in DA2 all you want but come on folks, we're better than this.
[QUOTE=JamesRaynor;35104166]The sad part is that if this is true we'll have to pay 20$ to get that because it will be DLC. Bioware's damned if they do and damned if they don't. They can come forward and debunk the myth, which ruins their story writing integrity, or they can say it is canon and make it DLC, which ruins their image and integrity.[/QUOTE]
Arrival DLC. Shadow Broker DLC. Both canon. Both DLC.
[QUOTE=gudman;35104167]No, that's just ww2 thing really fucking you over. Just you, as I've never seen anything like you're saying even on BSN. And that tells something.[/QUOTE]
"I MADE A MISTAKE"
posting at 4am :/
I'll just continue to believe this is the true ending until Bioware says otherwise.
[url]http://arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125[/url]
[QUOTE=gudman;35104178]Arrival DLC. Shadow Broker DLC. Both canon. Both DLC.[/QUOTE]
And the Arrival is extremely important for the storyline. It's what links ME2 to ME3.
And it's paid. Woohoo. Fuck off EA.
[QUOTE=gudman;35104178]Arrival DLC. Shadow Broker DLC. Both canon. Both DLC.[/QUOTE]
You should re-read what I said.
Either Bioware won't release end-altering DLC, therefore making it canon (Or whatever of the three they picked), or Bioware will release end-altering DLC for 20$ or so which will make the current ending non-canon but also means that the game didn't have it's actual ending on disk.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35104177]Do we really have to keep bashing her for something she had no part in? Criticize her writing in DA2 all you want but come on folks, we're better than this.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't find a Mac Walters video.
[QUOTE=gudman;35104178]Arrival DLC. Shadow Broker DLC. Both canon. Both DLC.[/QUOTE]
Shadow broker was great but really should have been built into the game to start with. Arrival was pretty good too and I can see why it wasnt in the game to begin with. Neither of these DLCs are a good example on how Bioware should handle the ending issue.
Is it bad that I love how pissed off femshep sounds when talking to kaiden on [sp]mars[/sp]? I mean goddamn i thought i'd have kaiden on my team not carth.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35104177]Do we really have to keep bashing her for something she had no part in? Criticize her writing in DA2 all you want but come on folks, we're better than this.[/QUOTE]
Do we really have to repeat that it isn't serious? No-one believes she does all the writing herself and personally makes it worse.
[url=www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QLz0CqtMVc]A little video[/url] I found a week ago, dunno if it was posted, outlines a lot of it pretty well.
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35104208]Shadow broker was great but really should have been built into the game to start with. Arrival was pretty good too and I can see why it wasnt in the game to begin with. Neither of these DLCs are a good example on how Bioware should handle the ending issue.[/QUOTE]
They are good example of how they can pull it out, as Arrival is kind of, you know, the real ending to ME2. It doesn't discard the collector base, yes, but still it concludes ME2 and is vital to connect second game and third one. I'm not saying how they [b]should[/b] handle it. But can they pull that off? Yes, they can.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;35104226]Do we really have to repeat that it isn't serious? No-one believes she does all the writing herself and personally makes it worse.
[url=www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QLz0CqtMVc]A little video[/url] I found a week ago, dunno if it was posted, outlines a lot of it pretty well.[/QUOTE]
I think it's the number of people that DO take it seriously that troubles me, and it's sometimes difficult to tell if someone's just joking, especially online. Granted, I'm a little sensitive to it since I was bullied a fair deal when younger.
[QUOTE=Revan564;35104185]I'll just continue to believe this is the true ending until Bioware says otherwise.
[url]http://arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125[/url][/QUOTE]
This, my friend, is perfect.
[QUOTE=gudman;35104234]They are good example of how they can pull it out, as Arrival is kind of, you know, the real ending to ME2. It doesn't discard the collector base, yes, but still it concludes ME2 and is vital to connect second game and third one. I'm not saying how they [b]should[/b] handle it. But can they pull that off? Yes, they can.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that makes sense. I'm conflicted on the idea of them making a "better" ending simply because the game is out and it has endings, if you can call them that. Arrival was more of an epilogue to ME2 than an ending.
That kind of DLC actually would be a good idea to an extent I guess, a nice ending that details what happens to the characters. Even better would be one that has specific details that actually relate to the choices you made in earlier games.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35104239]I think it's the number of people that DO take it seriously that troubles me[/QUOTE]
Not that many people take it seriously, she's become an icon (of her own doing by the way) for what is wrong with Bioware. Bioware's new outlook, and stance on dealing with the consumer.
Not that many people actually believe that she writes for Mass Effect, and if they do they're swiftly told otherwise (yes, even on /v/). The issue that many have is that she is employed (at all) at a company that was so widely praised for it's storytelling.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35104239]I think it's the number of people that DO take it seriously that troubles me, and it's sometimes difficult to tell if someone's just joking, especially online. Granted, I'm a little sensitive to it since I was bullied a fair deal when younger.[/QUOTE]
I doubt there are many people who do, as you say it's difficult to tell who is serious online. I never see anyone pointing to Hepler specifically writing a shit piece, more in a sense of "They hired her, this is the standard of writing they now have."
Also I was bullied a fuckload too, I don't really see this as bullying though, if so then we bully everyone. This is the internet, this is our rhetoric, there's nothing special about the way peopl treat her other than how she responds to it.
Holy shit she's a bad writer and said some dumb things about video games, let it go.
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