[QUOTE=shard.fyre;35109690]Oh wow, that looks so much like my Shepard!
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We can be Sheploo buddies!!!11 :v:
That youtube comment made me remember : I [I]did[/I] promise Dr. Chakwas to open that bottle after we beat the reapers, I wanna keep to it.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35109127]Can't really help if I consider her the best LI.[/QUOTE]
IMO Liara's the best LI
[QUOTE=Dominicus;35109658]Now there's a bunch of Turians who cannot survive all that long on the food there.[/QUOTE]
well, if you brought the Quarians with you they're probably set - the giant ball in a Quarian liveship is farmland. They probably have enough to go around now that they're not trucking millions of civilians around with them everywhere.
[QUOTE=Prism;35109742]That youtube comment made me remember : I [I]did[/I] promise Dr. Chakwas to open that bottle after we beat the reapers, I wanna keep to it.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I was kind of hoping for a Chakwas romance. My Shepard is a 40-50 something that looks like captain Picard. They'd make a good couple.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35109723][sp]I thought that too, but after analyzing the ending a bit more, then either everything after Harbinger's big lazor thing is a hallucination, or their writing department got replaced with monkeys overnight.
Not even just a hallucination, if the theory is correct, then the ending sequence is Shepard's indoctrination process. [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]
I'm sure the indoctrination theory is not what Bioware had planned, but they should really go for it. It would fix pretty much all issues with the ending in a single swoop, besides the people who are butthurt over the story not ending in ME3 like promised. It would honestly be a magnificent plot twist.[/sp]
[QUOTE=doommarine23;35109731]We can be Sheploo buddies!!!11 :v:[/QUOTE]
Sweet!
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35109723][sp]I thought that too, but after analyzing the ending a bit more, then either everything after Harbinger's big lazor thing is a hallucination, or their writing department got replaced with monkeys overnight.
Not even just a hallucination, if the theory is correct, then the ending sequence is Shepard's indoctrination process. [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Yeah, but think about it. The Illusive Man almost completely indoctrinaates Shepard, and the Catalyst is most likely even more powerful than even that. If it really wanted Shepard indoctrinated, it could do it without tricking him.
If Control is indoctrination, all the endings most likely are.[/sp]
[QUOTE=LordApocca;35109782][sp]
I'm sure the indoctrination theory is not what Bioware had planned, but they should really go for it. It would fix pretty much all issues with the ending in a single swoop, besides the people who are butthurt over the story not ending in ME3 like promised. It would honestly be a magnificent plot twist.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Again, I hate it when a book pulls that hallucination bullshit.
But if it would work this well, fucking go for it Bioware.[/sp]
[QUOTE=superdeluxe;35109625]Both of the Columnists that talk about video games at Forbes are pushing for EA to release a Free DLC, they have been on top of all the issues (Day one DLC, bad endings etc)
[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/12/bioware-and-ea-respond-to-dlc-controversy/2/[/url][/QUOTE]
Hopefully Bioware listens to Forbes. I've heard they know a thing or two about success.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/aiTxY.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/jq3Dv.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/CZGz2.jpg[/t]
End of the series for my character, he will always be Shepard's voice to me.
[QUOTE=LordApocca;35109782][sp]
I'm sure the indoctrination theory is not what Bioware had planned, but they should really go for it. It would fix pretty much all issues with the ending in a single swoop, besides the people who are butthurt over the story not ending in ME3 like promised. It would honestly be a magnificent plot twist.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Yeah but now if they used it, they'll have to fix further plot holes.
And well, you know, the fact that the REAPERS WOULD STILL be alive and destroying EARTH.
[QUOTE=Cone;35109805][sp]Yeah, but think about it. The Illusive Man almost completely indoctrinaates Shepard, and the Catalyst is most likely even more powerful than even that. If it really wanted Shepard indoctrinated, it could do it without tricking him.
If Control is indoctrination, all the endings most likely are.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]That's just the thing, the indoctrination begins when Shepard is fucked up by the lazor. After that loads of physically impossible things happen: Shepard breathing in space, infinite ammo(probably gameplay mechanic, but eh), Anderson arriving at the area before him, Shepard losing his questioning and powerful personality at the reaper kid.
The ending IS the indoctrination process, and the choice you make determines whether Shep is indoctrinated or not.
At least that's how I understood it [/sp]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35109865]Yeah but now if they used it, they'll have to fix further plot holes.[/QUOTE]
That twist would only remove holes, not add them, as far as i can theorize. It would give Bioware a chance to fill the missing pieces.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35109868][sp]That's just the thing, the indoctrination begins when Shepard is fucked up by the lazor. After that loads of physically impossible things happen: Shepard breathing in space, infinite ammo(probably gameplay mechanic, but eh), Anderson arriving at the area before him, Shepard losing his questioning and powerful personality at the reaper kid.
The ending IS the indoctrination process, and the choice you make determines whether Shep is indoctrinated or not.
At least that's how I understood it [/sp][/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's pretty much how it goes.
Guys, anyone knows how are the music tracks in captain's cabin on Normandy called? Can't find them on youtube.
I don't get the whole hamburger helper thing, someone please inform me? :v:
[QUOTE=Feuver;35109865]Yeah but now if they used it, they'll have to fix further plot holes.
And well, you know, the fact that the REAPERS WOULD STILL be alive and destroying EARTH.[/QUOTE]
[sp]I'd imagine the 'breath in' thing at the end of the 'good' Destroy ending would lead well into the true end. It's possible the whole ending sequence was relatively instantaneous in Shepard's mind.
Shepard gets up with his friends, goes through the citadel beam with his chosen squadmates who arrived after him, fight through the citadel, open the 'arms', Crucible connects and blows up reapers.[/sp]
-snip- ninja'd
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;35109917]I don't get the whole hamburger helper thing, someone please inform me? :v:[/QUOTE]
She wasn't involved in ME3 i'm pretty sure.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;35109917]I don't get the whole hamburger helper thing, someone please inform me? :v:[/QUOTE]
She writes awful stories for Bioware as far as I know.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35109934][sp]I'd imagine the 'breath in' thing at the end of the 'good' Destroy ending would lead well into the true end. It's possible the whole ending sequence was relatively instantaneous in Shepard's mind.
Shepard gets up with his friends, goes through the citadel beam with his chosen squadmates who arrived after him, fight through the citadel, open the 'arms', Crucible connects and blows up reapers.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]There still should be more hint that Shephard is actually getting indoctrinated before the super amazing indoctrinating beam of Harbinger. Nothing hints at Shephard ever getting slighting indoctrinated.[/sp]
[url]http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1[/url]
Pretty neat.
Spoilers no shit.
[QUOTE=Feuver;35109976][sp]There still should be more hint that Shephard is actually getting indoctrinated before the super amazing indoctrinating beam of Harbinger. Nothing hints at Shephard ever getting slighting indoctrinated.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Well the way Indoctrination worked in the ME series was that you'd never understand if you were getting done in by dem reepuhs.[/sp]
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35109934][sp]I'd imagine the 'breath in' thing at the end of the 'good' Destroy ending would lead well into the true end. It's possible the whole ending sequence was relatively instantaneous in Shepard's mind.
Shepard gets up with his friends, goes through the citadel beam with his chosen squadmates who arrived after him, fight through the citadel, open the 'arms', Crucible connects and blows up reapers.[/sp][/QUOTE]
actually I would be perfectly fine with that
[sp]but then the battle for Earth basically hinges on Shepard surviving[/sp]
While a nice idea, I don't think the whole indoctrination thing really fits in with the writing style, Mass-Effect has always been very blunt and honest with how it was written. Only minor things were ever "subtle" or hinted at, and by hinted, I mean basically told to you.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;35110048]While a nice idea, I don't think the whole indoctrination thing really fits in with the writing style, Mass-Effect has always been very blunt and honest with how it was written. Only minor things were ever "subtle" or hinted at, and by hinted, I mean basically told to you.[/QUOTE]
Like the From Ashes DLC involving how the Protheans failed.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35110009][sp]Well the way Indoctrination worked in the ME series was that you'd never understand if you were getting done in by dem reepuhs.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Good example being Rana Thanaptis in ME3, she seemed pretty fine in ME1 and ME2, then she just suicide bombs Asari high personnel because of voices in her head.
Shepard could've been indoctrinated since the very beginning, the only reason they're "activating" him now is because he's RIGHT at the point where he can seriously destroy them.[/sp]
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35110009][sp]Well the way Indoctrination worked in the ME series was that you'd never understand if you were getting done in by dem reepuhs.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I always figured indoctrination was more like convincing you the Reapers were your friends rather than flat-out hallucination. It's possible that was the only way to coerce Shepard, though.
Also, that would actually make an awful lot of sense with Control. He thinks he's controlling the Reapers and thus that he doesn't need to fight them anymore, and all they need to do is "advise" him on what to do.[/sp]
[QUOTE=doommarine23;35110048]While a nice idea, I don't think the whole indoctrination thing really fits in with the writing style, Mass-Effect has always been very blunt and honest with how it was written. Only minor things were ever "subtle" or hinted at, and by hinted, I mean basically told to you.[/QUOTE]
[sp]I think it would fit quite well. It is the climax to one of the most epic stories ever told. I think by this point they can afford to mislead players a bit.[/sp]
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35110091][sp]I think it would fit quite well. It is the climax to one of the most epic stories ever told. I think by this point they can afford to mislead players a bit.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Which I would be completely fine with, but with the way its written. They'd have to gut out the ending CGI and shit.
I like the idea, and it feels like they were leading up to it, but than ran out of time and just wrote in a very sloppy ending to sew it up.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;35110099]Which I would be completely fine with, but with the way its written. They'd have to gut out the ending CGI and shit.
I like the idea, and it feels like they were leading up to it, but than ran out of time and just wrote in a very sloppy ending to sew it up.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, yeah.
Well, in any case, I think the idea is the best course of action they CAN take, with the game out and all.
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