[QUOTE=SomeDumbShit;35122391]I wouldn't mind being able to purposefully wipe my ME3 MP items, I've had no luck finding characters in any of the packs and I'm level 19 on a soldier now..[/QUOTE]
I saved up to get the Spectre pack, got some crap shotgun out of it. So I've been buying the recruit packs. Only 5000 credits a piece and i've got nearly all the appearance unlocks now.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35122098]I never saw her, and I romped around the Citadel after every single major mission.[/QUOTE]
I found her in the holding area helping the refugees. [sp]Apparently she was killed by Cerberus during the coup, but she didn't show up on the memorial in the Normandy.[/sp]
[QUOTE=SomeDumbShit;35122391]I wouldn't mind being able to purposefully wipe my ME3 MP items, I've had no luck finding characters in any of the packs and I'm level 19 on a soldier now..[/QUOTE]
Do what I fucking did: open the store while you're ready for a game and all of your shit will be gone. All of it.
[QUOTE=Volgan;35122389]
If you want a crap ending, try the Sands of Time trilogy ending - [sp] You ended up rewinding time before the first game even happened[/sp][/QUOTE]
What? That's how the first game ends, Two Thrones ends [sp]with the Prince refusing to rewind everything to avert the invasion of Babylon, accepting his mistakes and rebuilding the kingdom with Farah instead of retconning everything.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Volgan;35122389]I really didn't mind the endings. [sp] The only bit that annoyed me was if you chose to destroy the Reapers, the Geth got blown up aswell.[/sp]
Even though most people didn't like the endings, it hasn't really phased me. As I've started up a fresh character on Mass Effect 1 and I still class it as one of my favourite game series.
If you want a crap ending, try the Sands of Time trilogy ending - [sp] You ended up rewinding time before the first game even happened[/sp][/QUOTE]
Something tells me you didn't give the ME3 endings enough thought.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mericet;35122431]
What? That's how the first game ends, Two Thrones ends [sp]with the Prince refusing to rewind everything to avert the invasion of Babylon, accepting his mistakes and rebuilding the kingdom with Farah instead of retconning everything.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Plus, rewinding the entire first game really fucked the Prince in the ass with the whole huge fucking Dahaka that rapes your shit. [/sp]
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/They_can_hear.png[/img]
Lets hope they are listening.
I want Bioware to just come out and say end of rine and ban everyone.
[QUOTE=Feuver;35122474]Something tells me you didn't give the ME3 endings enough thought.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean by that?
The 3 endings
[sp]1 - You take control of the reapers. I took that to mean you would think you were in control but ending up being indoctrinated.
2 - Biological and synthetic merge together to create a new form of life. I took this as a trick and everyone gets fucked over as husks.
3 - Destroy all synthetic life and the mass relays. So the Reapers get destroyed along with the mass relays. But all organic life survives and rebuilds. They still have Mass Effect technology, just not the Mass Relays.[/sp]
That's what I took out of it anyway. Maybe I'm not thinking too much into conspiracy theory endings, but what kind of ending was you expecting? Everyone sitting on the Normandy having a cold one while laughing about the galactic war that just went on?
As for the Sands of time trilogy, yeah I find of fucked up on that one. I fucked up with that bit. I kind of mixed the first and last ending up [sp] Where he talks to Farah at the end[/sp]. My bad with that
I have seriously gotten every character in the Multiplayer except for the Asari Adept.
GIVE ME IT YOU STUPID CRATES, STOP GIVING ME SHOTGUN UPGRADES.
[QUOTE=Volgan;35122612]What do you mean by that?
The 3 endings
[sp]1 - You take control of the reapers. I took that to mean you would think you were in control but ending up being indoctrinated.
2 - Biological and synthetic merge together to create a new form of life. I took this as a trick and everyone gets fucked over as husks.
3 - Destroy all synthetic life and the mass relays. So the Reapers get destroyed along with the mass relays. But all organic life survives and rebuilds. They still have Mass Effect technology, just not the Mass Relays.[/sp]
That's what I took out of it anyway. Maybe I'm not thinking too much into conspiracy theory endings, but what kind of ending was you expecting? Everyone sitting on the Normandy having a cold one while laughing about the galactic war that just went on?
As for the Sands of time trilogy, yeah I find of fucked up on that one. I fucked up with that bit. I kind of mixed the first and last ending up [sp] Where he talks to Farah at the end[/sp]. My bad with that[/QUOTE]
I would actually love an ending like that. [sp]Shepard and everyone, on the normandy, celebrating while they talk about it all, rebuilding, the future, and everything. That would be great. All your hard work paying off, saving everyone.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Volgan;35122612]What do you mean by that?
The 3 endings
[sp]1 - You take control of the reapers. I took that to mean you would think you were in control but ending up being indoctrinated.
2 - Biological and synthetic merge together to create a new form of life. I took this as a trick and everyone gets fucked over as husks.
3 - Destroy all synthetic life and the mass relays. So the Reapers get destroyed along with the mass relays. But all organic life survives and rebuilds. They still have Mass Effect technology, just not the Mass Relays.[/sp]
That's what I took out of it anyway. Maybe I'm not thinking too much into conspiracy theory endings, but what kind of ending was you expecting? Everyone sitting on the Normandy having a cold one while laughing about the galactic war that just went on?
As for the Sands of time trilogy, yeah I find of fucked up on that one. I fucked up with that bit. I kind of mixed the first and last ending up [sp] Where he talks to Farah at the end[/sp]. My bad with that[/QUOTE]
The Mass Effect 3 ending is riddled with plot holes. It's not so much at the choice, even if they are pretty bullshit by themselves, but the quantity of errors and mistake to be found.
[sp]You wake up, harbinger's doing nothing while you enter the conduit. Everybody is dead, yet Anderson enters after you, Anderson reaches the console before you even if there is only one path to get there, You seemingly die then Starchild pops up and gives you three choices, you can't be arsed to ask him question as to who build the first Reapers, how can they judge the world on their own experience, you can't even prove him Synthetics can work with organics while the Geth and Quarians are fighting together, the Destroy ending has plenty of renditions, one where the entire world gets blown up and kills all organics, another where it destroys all the reapers, but Shephard seemingly wakes up in London. Your team mates that were rushing toward the conduit magically teleports into the normandy and exits with Joker, Joker is using FTL flight when he was still fighting on Earth's surface (He had time to escape that orb of energy and get to a mass relay?).
There's plenty of stupid shit with the endings as of now. Plus, you don't even know what happens with the universe after the destruction of Mass Relay. [/sp]
When you finish Mass Effect 3, you're pretty much what the fuck about the endings, then the more you think about it and the less they do make sense. Then, people join the Indoctrination theory and ask Bioware to fix the ending.
first contact war would be awesome I don't give a FUCK.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=MajorMattem;35122558][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/They_can_hear.png[/img]
Lets hope they are listening.[/QUOTE]
the please respond makes me laugh every time
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35122367]Can't say I agree with him, at least not entirely. I don't mind the ending being sad; I kind of expected it. What he and many other writers seem to gloss over is the issue that the ending does not provide closure and he seemingly ignores that, while the final choices IS a choice, it doesn't take into account anything I've done prior. I could have a 100% perfect playthrough and get a nearly identical ending to someone who rushed through and skipped the sidequests. THAT is wrong.[/QUOTE]
he's saying the product of your actions is the third game in the form of the journey, not just the last five minutes.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
[quote]The fact that players ignore an entire game that’s all but made up of consequences only to complain that a five minute movie didn’t pat them on the back for what they’d done is insane. The meaningful nature of your personal game is thrown out because you didn’t get the ending you wanted? Or because the game doesn’t give you a rehash of everything you’ve done in the final cut scenes?[/quote]
most important and most CORRECT part of this whole thing.
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
[quote]Different players deal with this in different ways. Some are begging Bioware for DLC to offer new endings, “better” endings. They want a happy Shepard on the bridge of the Normandy, drinking a beer with Joker and talking about the good ol’ days. That’s an ending you can’t get at the moment, or at least we don’t believe so. Some people are asking Bioware to “fix” the ending so that it’s better, as if they’ve been cheated by a game that doesn’t offer the pay off they had hoped for since the series began. They put in the time and effort to “win” the game, and they want some happiness, dammit.[/quote]
there are like 40 posts that say exactly this in this very thread lol
[QUOTE=The DooD;35122001][sp]If that was the case, then why do they cheer in the paragon ending?[/sp][/QUOTE]
because [sp]synthesis merges everyone in a network. they exactly know what is happening. they are merged into one consciousness[/sp]
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35122764]
he's saying the product of your actions is the third game in the form of the journey, not just the last five minutes.
[/QUOTE]
There are several flaws with this, and really it's one of the reasons people are so fucking pissed off:
1) Mass Effect 3's ending makes the choices we've made along the way pretty much irrelevant. Galactic society is ALWAYS destroyed and in the "good" ending every choice we've ever made regarding the geth's survival is rendered invalid.
2) Replayability is all but non-existent, at least when it comes to the conclusion.
3) We were PROMISED, repeatedly, wildly diverging outcomes. As recently as two months, when Casey Hudson said "Whether people got ending A, B, or C"...and we did. Or two weeks ago, with Gamble where he said (paraphrased) "How could we possibly make all the endings the same?!" and they pretty much did.
Bioware dropped the ball, pure and simple. No amount of defense will fix it.
[QUOTE=Egevened;35122917]because [sp]synthesis merges everyone in a network. they exactly know what is happening. they are merged into one consciousness[/sp][/QUOTE]
That sounds pretty horrible tbh
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35122953]That sounds pretty horrible tbh[/QUOTE]
But after, world peace forever. Yay.
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;35122935]I can picture Bioware 'fixing' this whole situation with the endings by charging money for a "real ending", leaving all of the other endings that came with the retail product as what-ifs.[/QUOTE]
As we watch customer loyalty plummet...
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35122985]As we watch customer loyalty plummet...[/QUOTE]
Too late
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;35122935]I can picture Bioware 'fixing' this whole situation with the endings by charging money for a "real ending", leaving all of the other endings that came with the retail product as what-ifs.[/QUOTE]
I can see that too, the sad part is, I would buy "Real ending DLC"
[QUOTE=Egevened;35122917]because [sp]synthesis merges everyone in a network. they exactly know what is happening. they are merged into one consciousness[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]that negates the concept of free will and individuality that shepard was fighting for though
it's actually a huge loss for everyone[/sp]
[QUOTE=Delta616;35123002]I can see that too, the sad part is, I would buy "Real ending DLC"[/QUOTE]
I'd buy it if it was good.
I mean, Real ending DLC can also be another few weeks work quickly done ending with shephard drinking ryncol with Wrex after the Reaper apocalypse.
free weekend for the old republic
everyone make free accounts and protest by reenacting the ending the way you wanted it throughout the game
are fucking kidding me about no replayablility? Think about what you just said lol. your choices are not irrelevant, because they take place within the game. even if you are only thinking about the end, a lot is left to imagination but you still know what you did and what the outcome, in essence, is. Would 2 extra minutes just showing people happy make that big of a difference? [sp]the only thing that has to be destroyed are the relays, if that is what you mean by "galactic society" and I have no idea what you are talking about in reference to the geth being fucked, because they are only destroyed in one of the three main endings[/sp]
yeah they obviously over promised and lied about X or Y but that doesn't actually change the content of the game. this is why I go into most games blind lol, to avoid bullshit like that.
[QUOTE=SystemGS;35123032]free weekend for the old republic
everyone make free accounts and protest by reenacting the ending the way you wanted it throughout the game[/QUOTE]
Meanwhile at Bioware: "The free weekend was a huge success, we've seen a massive surge in new accounts being created! Who cares about Mass Effect, this is what rakes the money in!"
Quick questions about Kasumi and Dr. Archer.
[sp]If you destroy the gray box, do you even have that little sub-mission with Kasumi? Isn't the data inside of that what sparks the investigation?[/sp]
[sp]And I heard that Dr. Archer goes off and shoots himself in some people's playthroughs. In the one I've been going through, I told him to keep experimenting on David, and I met up with him again on that Cerberus scientist mission. I got him as a war asset after the mission, so he obviously didn't kill himself. What causes him to do that?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Delta616;35123002]I can see that too, the sad part is, I would buy "Real ending DLC"[/QUOTE]
I won't. I already paid for the game. To pay again for a "proper? ending? That's insult to injury. I'll take any free dlc they can hand out. I'm not paying them a dime more than I already have.
[QUOTE=Terin7;35123074]Quick questions about Kasumi and Dr. Archer.
[sp]If you destroy the gray box, do you even have that little sub-mission with Kasumi? Isn't the data inside of that what sparks the investigation?[/sp]
[sp]And I heard that Dr. Archer goes off and shoots himself in some people's playthroughs. In the one I've been going through, I told him to keep experimenting on David, and I met up with him again on that Cerberus scientist mission. I got him as a war asset after the mission, so he obviously didn't kill himself. What causes him to do that?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I got Kasumi's mission despite destroying the greybox.[/sp]
[QUOTE=SystemGS;35123019][sp]that negates the concept of free will and individuality that shepard was fighting for though
it's actually a huge loss for everyone[/sp][/QUOTE]
think of it like the geth after [sp]legion's upgrade[/sp]
everyone retains free will, but a technological singularity is reached.
however, talk about giving cavemen guns..
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35123036]are fucking kidding me about no replayablility? Think about what you just said lol. your choices are not irrelevant, because they take place within the game. even if you are only thinking about the end, a lot is left to imagination but you still know what you did and what the outcome, in essence, is. Would 2 extra minutes just showing people happy make that big of a difference? [sp]the only thing that has to be destroyed are the relays, if that is what you mean by "galactic society" and I have no idea what you are talking about in reference to the geth being fucked, because they are only destroyed in one of the three main endings[/sp]
yeah they obviously over promised and lied about X or Y but that doesn't actually change the content of the game. this is why I go into most games blind lol, to avoid bullshit like that.[/QUOTE]
ahahahahah lol, like we could imagine anything about the mass effect universe after [sp] the Mass Relays were destroyed. Lol.[/sp]
Nobody would be happy after the ending we got. Most species are actually fucked in the ass now.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35123047]Meanwhile at Bioware: "The free weekend was a huge success, we've seen a massive surge in new accounts being created! Who cares about Mass Effect, this is what rakes the money in!"[/QUOTE]
well after the free weekend is over they'll see a huge drop in userbase, plus the amount of people that are leaving due to the ending of mass effect is pretty big too
no money is really made from a free weekend aside from the few who actually join the game, they still pay for servers and the likes
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35123036]are fucking kidding me about no replayablility? Think about what you just said lol. your choices are not irrelevant, because they take place within the game. even if you are only thinking about the end, a lot is left to imagination but you still know what you did and what the outcome, in essence, is. Would 2 extra minutes just showing people happy make that big of a difference? [sp]the only thing that has to be destroyed are the relays, if that is what you mean by "galactic society" and I have no idea what you are talking about in reference to the geth being fucked, because they are only destroyed in one of the three main endings[/sp]
yeah they obviously over promised and lied about X or Y but that doesn't actually change the content of the game. this is why I go into most games blind lol, to avoid bullshit like that.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Almost every aspect of the Mass Effect universe hinges on the Mass Relays being in operation. I don't care if it's galactic finance, humanitarian aid or simple travel. Without the relays, every single system is cut off from each other. Colonies dependent on foreign help will starve to death or fall into disarray. Ruined homeworlds in need of aid will never get it. Citizens and soldiers will never see home again. It's fucking horrifying![/sp]
And yeah, the games are replayable because they're fun. But if I'm looking for a different outcome then I'm sure as hell not going to get it now. I might change what characters live and die along the way, but the ending is always the same "WHAT?!" The ending is as important as the journey, if not more so.
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