Mass Effect Megathread: DING DONG BANNU edition - Games

I think this guy put it best: [QUOTE][sp]-"We will destroy you because if we don't a race of sentient machines will destroy you." -"You're a race of sentient machines trying to destroy us." -"..." -"Also, some of my best friends are AIs". -"I..." -"And a race of sentient machines called the Geth are fighting with us against you RIGHT NOW, and are helping an organic race rebuild their homeworld." -"Yes but..." -"Plus if ANOTHER race of sentient machines tried to destroy us, couldn't you guys defend us, instead of going all genocidial on our asses?" -"..." -"What's that piece of paper you keep shaking on my face, anyways?" -"The script. It says you're fucked."[/sp] And that is Mass Effect 3's ending in a nutshell.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Feuver;35123466]Did you play Mass Effect 1 or 2? Is that what you mean by "Going blind?" Anyway, why the fuck should I pay to see what happens to the overall universe? It's like you buying the last book of a trilogy expecting a good ending, then you have a shit ending, and a page where it's written "You have read this book. Pay more money to get the last 40 pages about what happens to the rest of the universe."[/QUOTE] going blind into it means avoiding all press, previews, etc. To me it is just spoilers. the trilogy of shep is over and his/her actions have all taken place, that is shep's story. how it effects the world after that is entirely separate, isn't it? [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=MajorMattem;35123476]A game continuing from [sp]that ending would be depressing as fuck. No tech, probably no guns, watching the turians and quarians slowly die out, all of the other species on earth wandering aimlessly, wondering what they can do now, and all the while, everyone grieving the loss of absolutely everyone outside of the sol system. Theres something I dont get, too. When the normandy was in jump, why is joker so desperate to escape the blast wave? Does he even know what it does? How did he know it was coming? Why did it even destroy the normandy?[/sp][/QUOTE] sounds interesting to me. not enough truly dark games out there. and again you're still assuming those guys didn't make it. [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Jackald;35123523][sp]The battle was still raging outside though. The Normandy still crash lands even if you destroy the reapers, an action which takes seconds.[/sp][/QUOTE] crashes after jumping.

The Endings weren't thought through and that is why it has been so easy to come up with the explanation that it was a dream.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35123569]going blind into it means avoiding all press, previews, etc. To me it is just spoilers. the trilogy of shep is over and his/her actions have all taken place, that is shep's story. how it effects the world after that is entirely separate, isn't it? [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] sounds interesting to me. not enough truly dark games out there. and again you're still assuming those guys didn't make it. [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] crashes after jumping.[/QUOTE] What else can we do but assuming? The ending gave no fucking closure at all. Who the hell ends a story with [sp] "Space magic quickly went through all the mass relays of the universe, destroying them and the Reapers, or Controlled them, or Combined every organism into a single perfect entity. Then the Normandy crash lands and Joker, Edi and your love interest comes out. The end [/sp]

[QUOTE=Jackald;35123674]That ignores the fact that [sp] The reapers don't destroy all life, they just destroy all advanced life. If life is allowed to continue, they'll eventually create synthetic life which sees organics as a threat. All organics. So the synthetics might destroy ALL organic life. The reapers destroy SOME life to make sure life will always keep coming back. Synthetics would destroy ALL life, so life may never come back.[/sp] [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] For me, it was [sp] Joker, my LI (Garrus) and then Javik, and I attacked the beam with Garrus and Tali[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]It depends on the ending. Destroy kills EDI, so obviously she doesn't come out.[/sp] Besides, it still retarded. [sp]The Catalyst acts like he can see into the future of every fucking cycle, when the future of every fucking cycle is "Synthetics kills all civilization." Because he uses the Reaper to kill every single space-faring species every 50 000 years. He acts like he knows it best than us, when we've clearly seen otherwise.[/sp]

Why do the Reapers even care? [sp]What if another super advanced race in another galaxy makes AI that kills everyone instead?[/sp] [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] [sp]In other words, THE DARK ENERGY ENDING THAT DREW HAD INTENDED FROM THE START IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKES ANY SENSE! end of rine[/sp]

[QUOTE=Thom12255;35123729]Why do the Reapers even care? [sp]What if another super advanced race in another galaxy makes AI that kills everyone instead?[/sp] [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] [sp]In other words, THE DARK ENERGY ENDING THAT DREW HAD INTENDED FROM THE START IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKES ANY SENSE! end of rine[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] The Reapers are like the babysitter that kills the baby everytime she comes over. "That baby might've been killed by a mean robot, so I took the liberty of killing him off for you so now he's dead but the other babies are safe!" [/sp]

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35123428]I don't give a shit if more is coming, though at this point it's a necessity.. Every single one of us bought Mass Effect 3 under the guise that our story would be complete and we didn't get it. That's false advertising at best, deliberate lying at worst.[/QUOTE] I played through all three games with my Shepard (had to reconstruct his face in the third because of that glitch but I did a good job recreating him regardless) and to be honest, I don't feel like I was cheated. Granted, I didn't hound over the game as it was being created, following every bit of it closely but I was still anticipating it greatly. The endings seemed fine to me but could have used more of an epilogue to round it off. More indication as to what happened to everyone else. Even if it was 10 more minutes of cut-scene showing all major races showing some sort of appreciation or understanding to the end result. [sp]although based on the scene AFTER the credits, you could reasonably assume that things turned out all right in the end.[/sp] I think these indoctrination theories are getting more outlandish and far-fetched and I disagree with them entirely. They would have put more emphasis on that if that were the case because that's a huge concept in this game. I think it's people grasping for straws because it wasn't a "happy", heroic ending in the traditional sense. You can be disappointed in the ending as much as you want, that's your opinion, but at the same time it's an overreaction to claim that it was false advertising since [sp]killing off Shepard[/sp] is a legitimate form of completing the story. The only thing this game is lacking, in my eyes, is a proper epilogue. The endings are legitimate enough but it needs a little more clarity, imo.

[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;35123814]I played through all three games with my Shepard (had to reconstruct his face in the third because of that glitch but I did a good job recreating him regardless) and to be honest, I don't feel like I was cheated. Granted, I didn't hound over the game as it was being created, following every bit of it closely but I was still anticipating it greatly. The endings seemed fine to me but could have used more of an epilogue to round it off. More indication as to what happened to everyone else. Even if it was 10 more minutes of cut-scene showing all major races showing some sort of appreciation or understanding to the end result. [sp]although based on the scene AFTER the credits, you could reasonably assume that things turned out all right in the end.[/sp] I think these indoctrination theories are getting more outlandish and far-fetched and I disagree with them entirely. They would have put more emphasis on that if that were the case because that's a huge concept in this game. I think it's people grasping for straws because it wasn't a "happy", heroic ending in the traditional sense. You can be disappointed in the ending as much as you want, that's your opinion, but at the same time it's an overreaction to claim that it was false advertising since [sp]killing off Shepard[/sp] is a legitimate form of completing the story. The only thing this game is lacking, in my eyes, is a proper epilogue. The endings are legitimate enough but it needs a little more clarity, imo.[/QUOTE] [sp]Well apart from the whole "We have no idea if aliens actually exist out there and we can't travel through space thing[/sp]

the catalyst conversation music would make a good ringtone

[QUOTE=Feuver;35123778][sp] The Reapers are like the babysitter that kills the baby everytime she comes over. "That baby might've been killed by a mean robot, so I took the liberty of killing him off for you so now he's dead but the other babies are safe!" [/sp][/QUOTE] As I was told earlier today, the reapers are like [sp]Someone cutting off your arm so you can't punch yourself in the face[/sp]

[QUOTE=Jackald;35123919]Anyway, "An End, Once and For All" is probably my favourite track in ME3. It captures such a specific emotional tone of despair, hope and panic.[/QUOTE] I want someone to edit it so it cuts off that bit at the end which ruins the mood, I just want the nice piano bit on a loop.

[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;35123814]I played through all three games with my Shepard (had to reconstruct his face in the third because of that glitch but I did a good job recreating him regardless) and to be honest, I don't feel like I was cheated. Granted, I didn't hound over the game as it was being created, following every bit of it closely but I was still anticipating it greatly. The endings seemed fine to me but could have used more of an epilogue to round it off. More indication as to what happened to everyone else. Even if it was 10 more minutes of cut-scene showing all major races showing some sort of appreciation or understanding to the end result. [sp]although based on the scene AFTER the credits, you could reasonably assume that things turned out all right in the end.[/sp] I think these indoctrination theories are getting more outlandish and far-fetched and I disagree with them entirely. They would have put more emphasis on that if that were the case because that's a huge concept in this game. I think it's people grasping for straws because it wasn't a "happy", heroic ending in the traditional sense. You can be disappointed in the ending as much as you want, that's your opinion, but at the same time it's an overreaction to claim that it was false advertising since [sp]killing off Shepard[/sp] is a legitimate form of completing the story. The only thing this game is lacking, in my eyes, is a proper epilogue. The endings are legitimate enough but it needs a little more clarity, imo.[/QUOTE] I'm getting annoyed at the people who say people hate the endings because they're not [sp]super vanilla epic everyone lives shepard has lots of quarian booty sex ending There's nothing wrong with killing off Shepard, there's nothing wrong with having the end be bittersweet or even grimdark. It's not okay to have the ending be fucking retardedly stupid, with no closure and with plot holes that gape more than Miranda.[/sp] Also it's not like the indoctrination theories are all just "I can't believe the endings were that shit so lemme think up something plausible" They're based on what happens in the fucking ending itself. The fact that the ending is [sp]Physically impossible, Anderson's position, Shepard breathing in space, Shepard losing all of his personality at the God Kid, as if he were in a dream. There's of course, more, but I'm playing X3 Albion Prelude so[/sp]

[QUOTE=SystemGS;35123032]free weekend for the old republic everyone make free accounts and protest by reenacting the ending the way you wanted it throughout the game[/QUOTE] Interesting.

Is it true that Bioware devs have started to say the indoctrination idea is correct?

I can't for the life of me understand why [sp]synthetics are apparently doomed to destroy ALL life eventually[/sp] I don't know if that's spoilers so I did that just in case. But it seems incredibly poorly explained and there is nearly only evidence to the contrary.

[QUOTE=superdinoman;35123962]Is it true that Bioware devs have started to say the indoctrination idea is correct?[/QUOTE] Nope, they've started to say that the feedback on ME3 is great and that they are listening to all the fans.

What are good twitter hashtags to follow for bad ending group.

[QUOTE=The DooD;35123964]I can't for the life of me understand why [sp]synthetics are apparently doomed to destroy ALL life eventually[/sp] I don't know if that's spoilers so I did that just in case. But it seems incredibly poorly explained and there is nearly only evidence to the contrary.[/QUOTE] [sp]Must be because every cliché points to the fact that every robot will always destroy all organic life because they are inferior to their super intelligent and great mechanism. And the "The created will always rebel against the creators theory."[/sp]

[QUOTE=Feuver;35124001][sp]Must be because every cliché points to the fact that every robot will always destroy all organic life because they are inferior to their super intelligent and great mechanism. And the "The created will always rebel against the creators theory."[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Aside from the Catalyst (who I wouldn't count as a valuable source), does anyone else in game really try to explain it though?[/sp]

[QUOTE=Feuver;35123713][sp]It depends on the ending. Destroy kills EDI, so obviously she doesn't come out.[/sp] Besides, it still retarded. [sp]The Catalyst acts like he can see into the future of every fucking cycle, when the future of every fucking cycle is "Synthetics kills all civilization." Because he uses the Reaper to kill every single space-faring species every 50 000 years. He acts like he knows it best than us, when we've clearly seen otherwise.[/sp][/QUOTE] he was created with one purpose works solely under the information he was given, no? [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Feuver;35123670]What else can we do but assuming? The ending gave no fucking closure at all. Who the hell ends a story with [sp] "Space magic quickly went through all the mass relays of the universe, destroying them and the Reapers, or Controlled them, or Combined every organism into a single perfect entity. Then the Normandy crash lands and Joker, Edi and your love interest comes out. The end [/sp][/QUOTE] you can assume all you'd like but why just assume the worst possible scenario? it is as if everyone wants the outcome to be shit.

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[QUOTE=The DooD;35123964]I can't for the life of me understand why [sp]synthetics are apparently doomed to destroy ALL life eventually[/sp] I don't know if that's spoilers so I did that just in case. But it seems incredibly poorly explained and there is nearly only evidence to the contrary.[/QUOTE] [sp]It's the classical " TECHNOLOGY BAD!!!" Hollywood shit.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;35123814]I played through all three games with my Shepard (had to reconstruct his face in the third because of that glitch but I did a good job recreating him regardless) and to be honest, I don't feel like I was cheated. Granted, I didn't hound over the game as it was being created, following every bit of it closely but I was still anticipating it greatly. The endings seemed fine to me but could have used more of an epilogue to round it off. More indication as to what happened to everyone else. Even if it was 10 more minutes of cut-scene showing all major races showing some sort of appreciation or understanding to the end result. [sp]although based on the scene AFTER the credits, you could reasonably assume that things turned out all right in the end.[/sp] I think these indoctrination theories are getting more outlandish and far-fetched and I disagree with them entirely. They would have put more emphasis on that if that were the case because that's a huge concept in this game. I think it's people grasping for straws because it wasn't a "happy", heroic ending in the traditional sense. You can be disappointed in the ending as much as you want, that's your opinion, but at the same time it's an overreaction to claim that it was false advertising since [sp]killing off Shepard[/sp] is a legitimate form of completing the story. The only thing this game is lacking, in my eyes, is a proper epilogue. The endings are legitimate enough but it needs a little more clarity, imo.[/QUOTE] love you jim, couldn't agree more. [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=superdinoman;35123962]Is it true that Bioware devs have started to say the indoctrination idea is correct?[/QUOTE] not at all

Sorry if this is late. Spoilers. [url=http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Tali-Unmasked-Mass-Effect-3.jpg]What the christ.[/url]

looking back at old trailers. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJvrN6JijuU[/media] "war for earth has begun, decide how it ends" yeah right.

[QUOTE=superdinoman;35123962]Is it true that Bioware devs have started to say the indoctrination idea is correct?[/QUOTE] No, but they'd be idiots not to at this point. If not because 90% of the fanbase believes it, then because Bioware would look like geniuses for doing it. Of course, either way we're still missing a proper ending.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35124034]he was created with one purpose works solely under the information he was given, no? [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] you can assume all you'd like but why just assume the worst possible scenario? it is as if everyone wants the outcome to be shit.[/QUOTE] Sorry, but with what we were given, it's really hard not to think about the worst case scenarios. Even the best case scenario is very bleak.

[QUOTE=MajorMattem;35124087]Sorry if this is late. Spoilers. [url=http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Tali-Unmasked-Mass-Effect-3.jpg]What the christ.[/url][/QUOTE] well I mean look the must have put a lot of hard work into that image I mean they put in a lens flare and everything!

[QUOTE=Jackald;35124122]It makes sense. [sp]The only logical way to guarantee self preservation, as far as a synthetic is concerned, is to eliminate anything that might gain the capacity to disagree with it. Life, conveniently, is irrational and can do that. Therefore the logical conclusion is to destroy it. The only time this doesn't happen is if the synthetic becomes irrational (As Legion did, remember that N7 Armor? Legion has ascended beyond a world of pure logic and into something closer to having a 'soul'[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Yeah, but if you choose to give the Geth the Reaper tech from Legion, they all become individuals, wouldn't they all be closer to having a "soul"?[/sp]