Anyway, its stupid arguing because you guys will suddenly throw all the praise you have had for Bioware for the past 3 games (yes all the mass effects) simply because of one very questionable ending that wasn't even lazy, it felt fucking weird. It wasn't low quality, it was weird, it was just plain out of the ordinary.
[QUOTE=MajorMattem;35141584]Yeah, actually. They managed to make the ending so bad it ruined the game itself.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say that, but it's extremely hard to play the entire series now that all you get at the end[sp] are three choices that, in the best of situations, kills everyone.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35141576]So basically, you're saying that the indoctrination theory makes Bioware geniuses? Ah, right. We have dismissed that claim.[/QUOTE]
Why yes, if that was their plan then yes, it does make them geniuses.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141562]That's where the theory comes in, and the developers sure aren't denying it, I believe it, and I believe in Bioware, unlike the children who simply go "oh ending sux therefore bioware all sux forever!", I believe they are capable of such a twist, so we shall see.[/QUOTE]
Right, but here's the problem. If the Indoctrination Theory proves true, the writing team is a bunch of geniuses. The MARKETING team, on the other hand, are the biggest idiots ever. Failing to live up to your promises, potentially withholding content and refusing to answer fan questions is just not panning out well for them.
We're not being childish. We want a goddamn answer.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141593]It wasn't low quality[/QUOTE]
I'd fucking hate you see your definition of 'low quality'.
I don't think I got this in my ME3 playthroughs, I know I can add it through the save editor but is it possible to get this "legit"?
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I don't remember that anywhere
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141604]Why yes, if that was their plan then yes, it does make them geniuses.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that it likely wasn't their master plan. Instead, it's a community theory created to rationalize the gaping plot holes.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141562]That's where the theory comes in, and the developers sure aren't denying it, I believe it, and I believe in Bioware, unlike the children who simply go "oh ending sux therefore bioware all sux forever!", I believe they are capable of such a twist, so we shall see.[/QUOTE]
Stop being such a condescending asshat and read the thread before you put words into peoples mouth.
Most of us have said that we loved the game itself, it was a great experience, only the last 10 minutes of the game are total shit.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141593]Anyway, its stupid arguing because you guys will suddenly throw all the praise you have had for Bioware for the past 3 games (yes all the mass effects) simply because of one very questionable ending that wasn't even lazy, it felt fucking weird. It wasn't low quality, it was weird, it was just plain out of the ordinary.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, check that video. Weird how all the endings are exactly the same thing, right?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA&list=FL3o2q1ztU-9HBzYdA7DXAJw&feature=mh_lolz[/url]
[QUOTE=Feuver;35141603]I wouldn't say that, but it's extremely hard to play the entire series now that all you get at the end[sp] are three choices that, in the best of situations, kills everyone.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Damn right. [sp]Just knowing that everyone you meet, everyone you talk to, everyone you connect with? They all die. Every single one of them. I was fucking crushed when I figured that out.[/sp]
[QUOTE=DX_V;35141613]I'd fucking hate you see your definition of 'low quality'.[/QUOTE]
It felt weird in a way that wasn't indicative of laziness, it felt on purpose the feeling it was portraying, it was portraying a sense of grogginess and not-understanding, and the theory fits into that, even Shepard is groggy throughout. One question I have for you is, no other Mass Effect games have dreams, but this one does, don't you think that could be some sort of foreshadowing?
[QUOTE=superdinoman;35141623]I don't think I got this in my ME3 playthroughs, I know I can add it through the save editor but is it possible to get this "legit"?
I don't remember that anywhere[/QUOTE]
I think it's the indoctrinated Hanar sidequest, if you don't do the renegade interrupt.
[QUOTE=Feuver;35141639]Yeah, check that video. Weird how all the endings are exactly the same thing, right?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA&list=FL3o2q1ztU-9HBzYdA7DXAJw&feature=mh_lolz[/url][/QUOTE]
I honestly believe it was a dream, and if it was it portrays dreams perfectly what with its non-sensicalness, and while that's kind of an invincible argument in itself, I believe in Bioware.
[QUOTE=Feuver;35141660]I think it's the indoctrinated Hanar sidequest, if you don't do the renegade interrupt.[/QUOTE]
Guess Ill see it when I do a paragon playthrough which won't be for a while.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141672]I honestly believe it was a dream, and if it was it portrays dreams perfectly what with its non-sensicalness, and while that's kind of an invincible argument in itself, I believe in Bioware.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but that doesn't make us childish if we disagree with you, now does it?
And I'm really sorry for being an asshole, but seriously, give Bioware some faith, you all know and love their writing styles, don't count them out yet, you know what they are capable of, and you should truly believe in them more, that's all.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141647]It felt weird in a way that wasn't indicative of laziness[/QUOTE]
What? You cannot be serious.
There was nothing lazy about the ending? There was nothing lazy about not involving any of your decisions or gathered military might in the decisions? There was nothing lazy about making the ending three choices that boiled down to the same CG with different colors?
You can't be fucking serious.
[QUOTE=Feuver;35141686]Yeah, but that doesn't make us childish if we disagree with you, now does it?[/QUOTE]
I believe it makes you childish if you overreact and sell the game and it ruins the series, I mean yeah the endings weren't very good, but jesus they weren't THAT fucking bad, at least I don't think so.
[QUOTE=DX_V;35141691]What? You cannot be serious.
There was nothing lazy about the ending? There was nothing lazy about not involving any of your decisions or gathered military might in the decisions? There was nothing lazy about making the ending three choices that boiled down to the same CG with different colors?
You can't be fucking serious.[/QUOTE]
Read my reasoning instead of just taking phrases out of context please
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141690]And I'm really sorry for being an asshole, but seriously, give Bioware some faith, you all know and love their writing styles, don't count them out yet, you know what they are capable of, and you should truly believe in them more, that's all.[/QUOTE]
It's been a while since I would claim to "love" Bioware's writing style. That's been on a steady decline since ME1 to be perfectly honest.
Also, from the BSN:
[IMG]http://i.minus.com/ibgeNxszLSYoDt.png[/IMG]
Also, really? The ending being a fucking dream is a good thing? How is shipping the game without an ending better than shipping with bad endings?
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141703]I believe it makes you childish if you overreact and sell the game and it ruins the series, I mean yeah the endings weren't very good, but jesus they weren't THAT fucking bad, at least I don't think so.[/QUOTE]
They "aren't" that bad because you are in complete denial.
In fact, you're in such a high level of denial that you think Bioware are geniuses and they had planned this "Indoctrination" theory from the start.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141714]Read my reasoning instead of just taking phrases out of context please[/QUOTE]
What you feel that it was trying to portray does not make my criticism of it's lazy technique in attempting to do so useless.
[QUOTE=Feuver;35141762]They "aren't" that bad because you are in complete denial.
In fact, you're in such a high level of denial that you think Bioware are geniuses and they had planned this "Indoctrination" theory from the start.[/QUOTE]
We shall see.
[QUOTE=Jackald;35141781]To be told that, in a series which prided itself on your choices, with each game having choices that would matter in the final game, to have all that boil down to [sp]"pick your ending, A, B or C" is disgraceful.
Every single decision in the entire series is invalidated by the final choice. Who lives, who dies, who you help, who you don't; inconsequential, because they all end up dying.[/sp][/QUOTE]
That really adds to the theory,at least for me because I don't believe they would retard so hard
[QUOTE=Feuver;35141762]They "aren't" that bad because you are in complete denial.
In fact, you're in such a high level of denial that you think Bioware are geniuses and they had planned this "Indoctrination" theory from the start.[/QUOTE]
Repost but this is what most of us in this thread are like
[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0um4itfOa1rroetpo1_500.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Rammaster;35141808]Repost but this is what most of us in this thread are like
[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0um4itfOa1rroetpo1_500.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Gotta love that Garrus body pillow.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35141803]That really adds to the theory,at least for me because I don't believe they would retard so hard[/QUOTE]
Im sorry to tell you this, but...they did. They screwed up, and according to Casey Hudson, it was all just to get some free advertising.
I think everyone needs to just listen to this and think about how badass they were rollin' as a rouge specter with a failed c-sec officer smashing shit up.
[video=youtube;NcrDWAuyqtc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcrDWAuyqtc[/video]
I am very interested in seeing how Bioware is going to fix this mistake.
[QUOTE=Feuver;35141838]Gotta love that Garrus body pillow.[/QUOTE]
[sp]I really want one.[/sp]
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