some of these theories are great
apparently bioware has been indoctrinating the player since 2007
THE REAPERS ARE REAL MAN
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35144766]"An End, Once and for All" - That one isn't it. I don't know where the hell that plays, though I like it.
I'm looking for the song that starts here: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiYLVhbLxzw&feature=player_detailpage#t=45s[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it's not part of the OST, so I don't know if it is posted anywhere.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35144766]"An End, Once and for All" - That one isn't it. I don't know where the hell that plays, though I like it.
I'm looking for the song that starts here: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiYLVhbLxzw&feature=player_detailpage#t=45s[/url][/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ZtKLr9q9w[/media]
Thank you
just beat it, what bullshit. i was really enjoying the game too. thanks bioware
when the me3 demo came out, i ran it through steam and named it "mass disappointment"
kinda funny how that turned out
[QUOTE=teh pirate;35144916]just beat it, what bullshit. i was really enjoying the game too. thanks bioware[/QUOTE]
I think that it's best to avoid letting the ending color rememberance of the game. The destination sucks, sure, but the journey there was pretty great right up until it ended.
it didn't even recognize my me2 save so i had to put up with the bullshit default choices which effectively rendered half the game missing for me.
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[QUOTE=Cone;35144948]I think that it's best to avoid letting the ending color rememberance of the game. The destination sucks, sure, but the journey there was pretty great right up until it ended.[/QUOTE]
heh, color.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;35144243]Been on vacation for the last few days, so there's 2000+ posts to wade through, but I finally got a chance to finish up the last couple of missions.
So yeah, the endings were as bad as I expected. There was clearly a huge SNAFU during their development, and post-game DLC seems inevitable. Everything after the Crucible's docking was just...awful.
I didn't even feel like my EMS affected much at all really. Zero closure, zero impact. Pretty disappointed really. Everything bar the last 10 minutes was very, very impressive however. Dialogue was excellent; squad characters were incredibly well fleshed out in particular, as were the Citadel NPCs.
Looking forward to my next playthrough...but I'll probably just finish up at the Cerberus base.[/QUOTE]
I've been thinking of an alternate ending which would have made more sense.
[sp]Right before the charge to the conduit we see a Cerberus shuttle fly overhead, TIM contacts Shepard on the radio saying "I can't let you throw away Yoomanity's greatest chance a galactic dominance Shepard!". Anderson calls the charge and you start running, everything plays out the same here, everyone is injured or killed and Shep gets blasted, except as you run down you see TIM's shuttle get hit. After Shepard wakes up he sees TIM enter the conduit, followed closely by Anderson. Shepard follows too, naturally, and they arrive in a section near the Citadel's core. (I should note that there'd be no gunplay after Shepard gets blasted) Shepard follows a dimly lit corridor, eventually reaching the area where the Citadel and the Crucible connect. He sees TIM and Anderson pointing pistols at each other, behind them is a chair and console.
Shepard approaches and raises his gun, TIM then tries to convince Shepard that he can control the Reapers, Anderson says that the only option is to destroy them. After an intense debate-at-gunpoint TIM pulls the trigger on Anderson, critically wounding him, Renegade interupt to shoot TIM before he does this. Either way Shepard shoots TIM, who is also critically wounded. Shepard then approaches the console and a VI activates. The VI is a part of the Crucible and states that that the connection to the Catalyst (the Citadel, no stupid starchild) has been successful. The VI then tells Shepard to sit in the chair, as a biological avatar is needed to broadcast the signal, it also warns that the original design was not intended for human use and malfunctions (such as your death) may occur. As Shepard hesitantly sits into the chair TIM tells Shepard to use this opportunity to take control of the Reapers. The VI states that this option is a possibility, but is not the Crucible's designed task and such a course could be hasardous. The VI explains that it will send a signal which will either shut down or 'hack' the Reapers, the Mass Relays will be used as giant signal boosters and wont be destroyed.
You then make the choice, shut down the Reapers, using the Reaper code or control them with it. The ending then changes based on your highest alignment, your EMS and your decision:
- Shut down, 5000 EMS: The Citadel's arms open and the VI confirms your decision, TIM objecting but struggling to move. The blue wave is sent out and you see the Reapers (and only the Reapers) shut down as the fleet and ground forces fight. Shots of the soldiers and crews rejoicing, husks collapsing. Shepard then climbs out of the chair and sits with Anderson, they watch the galactic armada tear the inactive Reapers apart just to be sure, Earth as the backdrop to the scene. Timeskp to a "where are they now" ending with Shepard hanging with Garrus, LI and Wrex. Shots of the different decisions and their outcomes. The cliched happy ending you earned.
- Shutdown, <5000 EMS: Same as above except Shepard dies. Scenes of the crew attending Shepard's funeral, Alliance ship named after him. Bitter sweet ending.
- Shutdown, <4000 EMS: The signal wasn't sent out properly, only shuting down half the Reapers and slowing the rest. Substantial losses abound but the armada's combined might manages to eventually defeat the Reapers.
- Paragon, control, 5000 EMS: The Citadel's arms open and the VI confirms your choice, Anderson objecting but struggling to move. A red wave is sent out and you see the Reapers stop attacking, the fleet and ground take a while to realise the threat has been neutralised. Shepard survives, as he climbs out of the chair TIM says he knew Shepard would make the right call in the end, Shepard can't look at him. Then there are shots of the various races working to rebuild with the help of the enslaved Reapers and their tech, we see shots that imply the galaxy has entered a new golden age. Plus Shepard doing shit with his crew, outcomes to your choices etcetera. Unusal good end.
- Paragon, control, <5000 EMS: Same as above, only Shepard dies. Funeral, choices all that goodstuff.
- Paragon, control, <4000 EMS: Some Reapers manage to avoid the signal, the Reapers turn on each ther and the armada uses this chance to make a decisive attack, destroying many Reapers. The Reapers end up tearing each other apart, with the armada not recognising the now 2 seperate Reaper factions. The Reapers are all but destroyed. The few surviving Reapers are then shown to help the rebuilding process.
- Renegade, control, 5000 EMS: The Citadel's arms open and the VI confirms your choice, Anderson objecting but struggling to move. A red wave is sent out and you see the Reapers stop attacking, the fleet and ground take a while to realise the threat has been neutralised. Shepard survives, as he climbs out of the chair TIM says he knew Shepard would make the right call in the end, Shepard looks at TIM with a grimace. We then see the Alliance and the Reapers destroy several turian and asari ships, th races have no choice but to submit to the will of Yoomanity. Shepard sends time with his LI, some crew members can't forgive Shepard and are seen walking away. Outcomes to your choices yadda yadda yadda. Dominance end.
- Renegade, control, <5000 EMS: Same as above except Shepard dies.
- Renegade, control, <4000 EMS: Some Reapers manage to avoid the signal, the Reapers turn on each ther and the armada uses this chance to make a decisive attack, destroying many Reapers. The Reapers end up tearing each other apart, with the armada not recognising the now 2 seperate Reaper factions. The Reapers are all but destroyed. The few surviving Reapers are then shown assisting the Alliance in taking out some turian and asari ships. Yoomanity's territoy expands greatly, but the Alliance lacks the resources to dominate the other races. Your allegiances determine who joins the Human empire and who oppose it.
- <2500 EMS: The Crucible doesn't work, the Reapers win. The armada manages to take down a few Reapers but ultimately fails.* Bad end.
*Hope spot: 20,000 years later a race discovers one of Liara's warning devices and activates it, fade to black.[/sp]
There, 10 endings, 3 where Shepard lives, 6 were he dies with varying results and one bad end. None of this would need much extra dialouge, just the Anderson/TIM bits. It'd be another month of development at most. It's far from perfect but it's better than the crap we got.
dear bioware: hire the above poster to replace your original writer
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forever
[QUOTE=massn7;35144570]On an unrelated note, my custom Shep looks 10 times better than she did in the previous games.
[img_thumb]http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/outofideas7209/shep.png[/img_thumb]
I just use Sheploo for my manshep runs.[/QUOTE]
Would you be willing to share the face code? I've been having a bitch of a time trying to get a FemShep that looks halfway decent, and yours would be an excellent base to work off of. If not, I fully understand.
I agree. That's a really good custom Shep.
Are spectre packs worth saving for?
Yoomanity gets me every time.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;35144955]it didn't even recognize my me2 save so i had to put up with the bullshit default choices which effectively rendered half the game missing for me.
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heh, color.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter much, all the big decisions you did in ME 1 & 2 are merely translated as numbers for your Total Military Strenght as opposed to have any kind of impact in your game.
[sp]i don't understand one thing, though. mass effect has always been really science themed. the inclusion of a random god entity seems really, really questionable. i have one theory, but it's probably just wishful thinking because i'm so mad about what happened.
parts of the game were very clearly rushed; the end had some missing/incomplete textures, and some parts were seemingly not thoroughly playtested due to overwhelming difficulty, and some of the enemies seemed poorly thought out (the banshee in particular, it wasn't fun to fight or look at, it was just annoying as shit).
i wonder if bioware ran out of time, wanted to get the game out on schedule, so they took a shortcut - the end as we know it was a dream sequence of sorts. it seems to add up with shepard being knocked unconscious and waking up with basically everyone around him dead - key characters that wouldn't be allowed to die without a dramatic and tear-jerking cutscene rendered just for them. and that pop-up at the end - the one about dlc - maybe it was thrown in because they ran out of time. it seems out of place, that's for sure. so what if the plan is to release the actual ending soon - as a free dlc? that'd be fine, i'd totally forgive them.
i really don't think bioware would ditch the scientific theme they spent so damn long building up and reinforcing just to throw in a god-reaper-child-fucking thing at the end. it doesn't add up.
i know one thing. if this DLC exists, and it's not free, i'm not getting it, and i'm never playing a bioware game again.[/sp]
:)
I saw this video on another forum. It's depressing how accurate it is.
[video=youtube;99kS02nPoEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99kS02nPoEM[/video]
just beat the game and now im crying irl
god that was terrible :c
The Codex states that Collectors still are in the ranks of the reapers and were among most of the battles? So how can that be when we kinda exterminated them
[QUOTE=Sir Drone;35145229]The Codex states that Collectors still are in the ranks of the reapers and were among most of the battles? So how can that be when we kinda exterminated them[/QUOTE]
I think its implied that that was just the main collector base. There's a part where EDI in ME2 mentions she checked the ships signature against known Collector vessels which implies that there are more than just that ship that raped you.
Well basically got the Good Destroy ending. [sp] If only Anderson lived...got TIM to paragon himself, but Anderson ;-; he said he was proud of me.[/sp]
Have any of you looked up this indoctrination theory? If it's true then Bioware will have all of my money, if it's fake then It'll just be another wasted opportunity.
[QUOTE=Broguts;35145320]Have any of you looked up this indoctrination theory? If it's true then Bioware will have all of my money, if it's fake then It'll just be another wasted opportunity.[/QUOTE]
Care to brief me, I've been playing the last few hours of ME3 since today and haven't read any of theories.
[QUOTE=RG4;35145333]Care to brief me, I've been playing the last few hours of ME3 since today and haven't read any of theories.[/QUOTE]
The theory is that the ending is shepard being indoctrinated and shit and the true ending is gonna be free DLC in April, along with some multiplayer shit. And some bioware employees have been hinting that this [I]might[/I] be true.
[QUOTE=RG4;35145265]Well basically got the Good Destroy ending. [sp] If only Anderson lived...got TIM to paragon himself, but Anderson ;-; he said he was proud of me.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Sucked ass that he [sp]dies right before Shepard says "Thank you sir."[/sp]
Had 6000 Estimated military strength.
Destroy ending.
I will never be happy again.
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Holy shit though...
reading about it isn't enough.
Seeing YOUR Shepard... getting fucking ruined... hearing the BULLSHIT FUCKING explanation for the Reapers... it just hit me like a sack of bricks. 5 years of lore destroyed in 5 minutes... I can't even begin to explain how much is wrong
[sp]WHERE THE FUCK WAS JOKER GOING?
HOW DOES SYNTHESIS EVEN MAKE AN OUNCE OF FUCKING SENSE?
THE REAPERS DON'T WANT ORGANICS TO KILL SYNTHETICS SO THEY MAKE BIG ASS ROBOTS WHO KILL SYNTHETICS? FUCKING GENIUS.
....Fuck shit balls ass.
I am mildly upset.[/sp]
I need to learn the secret of the fish....
chobot is a horrible voice actor, there is absolutely no emotion in her voice.
worse than jennifer hale ever was
[QUOTE=milktree;35145465]chobot is a horrible voice actor, there is absoulutley no emotion in her voice.[/QUOTE]
Really, you didn't think she was epic? Epic for the win?
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35145374]Had 6000 Estimated military strength.
Destroy ending.
I will never be happy again.
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Holy shit though...
reading about it isn't enough.
Seeing YOUR Shepard... getting fucking ruined... hearing the BULLSHIT FUCKING explanation for the Reapers... it just hit me like a sack of bricks. 5 years of lore destroyed in 5 minutes... I can't even begin to explain how much is wrong
[sp]WHERE THE FUCK WAS JOKER GOING?
HOW DOES SYNTHESIS EVEN MAKE AN OUNCE OF FUCKING SENSE?
THE REAPERS DON'T WANT ORGANICS TO KILL SYNTHETICS SO THEY MAKE BIG ASS ROBOTS WHO KILL SYNTHETICS? FUCKING GENIUS.
....Fuck shit balls ass.
I am mildly upset.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Well I try to calm myself with the fact that Shepard [sp]is alive and that the Reapers get destroyed and your crew are still alive..stranded in nowhere.WHYYyyyyyyyyyyyyy[/sp]
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