They haven't denied any of the leaks.
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So what determines the squad members with Joker at the end?
[sp]I chose the destory ending on my first playthrough. I romanced Liara and took Liara and Kaiden on the final mission. On my second playthrough I chose the control ending. I romanced nobody and took Garrus and Javik on the final mission.
And at the end of both playthroughs Liara and Javik stepped out of the Normandy with Joker.[/sp]
Whoever you have a higher relationship score with. For me it was Liara and Ashley.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;35161819]So what determines the squad members with Joker at the end?
[sp]I chose the destory ending on my first playthrough. I romanced Liara and took Liara and Kaiden on the final mission. On my second playthrough I chose the control ending. I romanced nobody and took Garrus and Javik on the final mission.
And at the end of both playthroughs Liara and Javik stepped out of the Normandy with Joker.[/sp][/QUOTE]
It has been my LI and Javik both times. The LI I can understand, but I never use Javik so I don't know why it's him.
Some dude in Bioware throws darts at a board covered in squad photos to pick who comes out. It's actually the most effort they put into any part of the endings.
[QUOTE=Greeneyes;35161942]Some dude in Bioware throws darts at a board covered in squad photos to pick who comes out. It's actually the most effort they put into any part of the endings.[/QUOTE]
there's also one for quest outcomes to decide if people get off'ed or not.
Anyone got a link to the indoctrination theory on the ME3 forum? I can't find it anymore.
Just search youtube, for mass effect 3 indoctrination theory
[video=youtube;Tbghjn7_Byc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbghjn7_Byc[/video]
13 min vid.
[QUOTE=supertribute;35162111]Just search youtube, for mass effect 3 indoctrination theory
[video=youtube;Tbghjn7_Byc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbghjn7_Byc[/video]
13 min vid.[/QUOTE]
Two minutes in and already one error, Anderson never got on those shuttles.
[QUOTE=goon165;35162228]Two minutes in and already one error, Anderson never got on those shuttles.[/QUOTE]
The author comments says he made a mistake there, the rest is very interesting and quite the listen.
Second error, [sp]you can still kill the illusive man after he shoots Anderson, how does that work in the whole mind game thing?[/sp]
Third error. [sp]Shepard HAS to do something to activate Crucible because nothing happens until you actually do something[/sp]
[QUOTE=goon165;35162295]second error, [sp]you can still kill the illusive man after he shoots Anderson, how does that work in the whole mind game thing?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Consider that the end sequence, in the theory, symbolizes the fight between Shepard's willpower and mind(Anderson and Shepard) and the part of him that is indoctrinated(TIM). Not at all difficult to have one side damage the other side.[/sp]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/NkdUZ.png[/img]
Well fuck, they make a good point.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35162362][sp]Consider that the end sequence, in the theory, symbolizes the fight between Shepard's willpower and mind(Anderson and Shepard) and the part of him that is indoctrinated(TIM). Not at all difficult to have one side damage the other side.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Yeah but it still doesn't make any sense that the game then continues regardless of what happens if we stay within the theory.
[sp] IE how can Anderson and TIM BOTH die at the same time and Shepard still wins.[/sp]
[QUOTE=goon165;35162529]Yeah but it still doesn't make any sense that the game then continues regardless of what happens if we stay within the theory.
[sp] IE how can Anderson and TIM BOTH die at the same time and Shepard still wins.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Because the theory says its just an [sp] internal struggle within his mind none of it's real they believe the choice made in this indoctrinated dream will affect what happens in dlc to come.[/sp]
In the end, Mass Effect was a space opera and I didn't really feel like the [sp]metaphysical ending was necessary. I was ready for Shepard to die, but both of the choices were depressing and shitty and lacked closure.[/sp]
In addition to the whole no uniqueness/colored explosions bullshit.
[QUOTE=goon165;35162529]Yeah but it still doesn't make any sense that the game then continues regardless of what happens if we stay within the theory.
[sp] IE how can Anderson and TIM BOTH die at the same time and Shepard still wins.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] I'm not too into having them both be parts of Shepard's mind myself.
From how I understood it, TIM and Andy aren't literally his fall and willpower, respectively. It's more they're characters used by the indoctrination process to influence Shepard's thought process. [/sp]
[QUOTE=EcksDee;35162620][sp] I'm not too into having them both be parts of Shepard's mind myself.
From how I understood it, TIM and Andy aren't literally his fall and willpower, respectively. It's more they're characters used by the indoctrination process to influence Shepard's thought process. [/sp][/QUOTE]
Well as Japan will probably start to explode due to the endings in the next couple of hours we might get a statement in a day or two and find out whats really happening.
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Yer, I'd rate myself optimistic to
[QUOTE=Greeneyes;35162640]Well as Japan will probably start to explode due to the endings in the next couple of hours we might get a statement in a day or two and find out whats really happening.[/QUOTE]
I hope to fuck you're right
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Mass Effect is really popular in Japan, so there's probably going to be a large reaction once everybody there has finished the game.
[QUOTE=Jackald;35162712]Technically, wouldn't the ULTIMATE PARAGON be [sp]Waiting and not picking any choice, allowing the reapers to destroy the crucible, allowing the next cycle to win due to liara's info box and crucible plans?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Good idea, that way [sp]the universe isn't fucked over because Shepard blew up all Mass Relays in the galaxy at a holographic childs request...[/sp]
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[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;35162722]I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Mass Effect is really popular in Japan, so there's probably going to be a large reaction once everybody there has finished the game.[/QUOTE]
I quickly googled Mass Effect in Japan and apparently the second one wasn't released in Japan because the first didn't sell well, so I'd be surprised if there was that much of a reaction.
I would be fine with everyone in the team dying, whatever, alright. However, I do not think fucking over all life in the universe is a very good ending or anything I wanted.
[QUOTE=Jackald;35162712]Technically, wouldn't the ULTIMATE PARAGON be [sp]Waiting and not picking any choice, allowing the reapers to destroy the crucible, allowing the next cycle to win due to liara's info box and crucible plans?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Nah, [sp]synergy would be since everyone'll live happily ever after[/sp]
Imagine if they do make a 'happier' ending and after the end you can still access the map and travel to the main planets and destination. Walk around Thessia or the citadel seeing and hearing the consequences of your choices in people's stories and interactions or in the landscapes themselves. Maybe travel back to the [sp]Quarian home world. See them at peace with the Geth (or not!). Visit Tali building her house with that view. Walk with Liara in the park her Mother took her to. Wrex and how his people are doing. Find if Jack's students survived the final battle. Grab a drink with Garrus.[/sp]... sigh Bioware you could have done good, we would have been proud of you.
[QUOTE=abracusify;35162899]Nah, [sp]synergy would be since everyone'll live happily ever after[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Except for EDI and the Geth, who are presumably now located near someone's ballsack.[/sp]
[QUOTE=abracusify;35162899]Nah, [sp]synergy would be since everyone'll live happily ever after[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Synergy seemingly does away with all free will and individual thought that paragon shep appears to fight for[/sp]
[QUOTE=abracusify;35162899]Nah, [sp]synergy would be since everyone'll live happily ever after[/sp][/QUOTE]
None of the endings are paragon.
[sp]Control is clearly renegade as it lets you solve the problem and control te Reapers.
Synergy is retarded and doesn't make any fucking sense. You're also robbing the entire galaxy of free will.
Destroy is genocide of the Geth.
Plus every ending ends up with 99% of advanced life being FUCKED anyway so there's no point in arguing over which is the "best" or most paragon choice.[/sp] They're all shitty and dumb and based on flawed logic.
I wonder, can any race in the galaxy [sp]even build Mass Relays? Even if they had enough eezo to build one, they'd need schematics.[/sp]
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;35162997]I wonder, can any race in the galaxy [sp]even build Mass Relays? Even if they had enough eezo to build one, they'd need schematics.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Wasn't the [sp] Conduit and the thing at the end of ME3 just a smaller Mass relay? I'm sure others could do it if the Protheans could [/sp]
[QUOTE=nightlord;35163123]Wasn't the [sp] Conduit and the thing at the end of ME3 just a smaller Mass relay? I'm sure others could do it if the Protheans could [/sp][/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure [sp]reapers built the Mass Relays[/sp]
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