[QUOTE=Scar;35163572]The ending wouldn't be half as bad if they gave you some slideshow of how your choices affected the different races and characters, kinda like in Fallout: New Vegas.
But no, even that is to much effort[/QUOTE]
I dunno. As recently as a month ago, they were promising us wildly varying endings with complete closure. Now that the game is out, they've completely flipped and are saying they made the ending vague on purpose so people would speculate like crazy.
Something is wrong here.
[QUOTE=Dominicus;35163492]A little. Only Liara's mother is in the last stage of her life and Aria isn't. Thus Aria can't be the mother of Liara's mother.[/QUOTE]
No, you're reading it wrong. Liara's father's father (aka the bartender's father) is Wrex.
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35163538]well yes, because they are not YOUR ending. You didn't chose the other endings, so how is what happens in them in any way relevant to you?[/QUOTE]
It's like the matrix - take the red pill or the blue pill. In the film it matters which one you take. In me3, the only thing thats different is the colour of the pill
[QUOTE=Swebonny;35163502]How long does Krogans live? Problem is that Liara is like 100+ years old.[/QUOTE]
Wrex is little over 1400 years old
[QUOTE=Jackald;35163587]Hey guys, I made an ending that has fewer plot holes than the actual ending!!!!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdLvVhi9bjg[/media][/QUOTE]
Best ending obviously. Must have had like 12k war assets.
[QUOTE=Haxxer;35163610]Wrex is little over 1400 years old[/QUOTE]
God dayumn that damn frog.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35163593]I dunno. As recently as a month ago, they were promising us wildly varying endings with complete closure. Now that the game is out, they've completely flipped and are saying they made the ending vague on purpose so people would speculate like crazy.
Something is wrong here.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but a slideshow would be a a bit better than the shit we have to day.
It takes like 1 hour max to write it, take some picture, and then let some dude say something about it.
Even if you had like 4 option per race and character, that really wouldn't be to much to ask for.
But no, different colours is everything we get
I think that they didn't know what to include in the ending, so they just gave some random shit that happens, which creates the plot holes, and want the fans to say what is a good ending for the game and series ('Fanwank something so we can use as canon through DLC'). Kinda explains why they are posting "We are listening to your feedback".
[QUOTE=Haxxer;35163453]It has probably been posted, but I just realized the connections.
My theory is that Liara's grandfather is Wrex. When you speak with Aria in ME2 and Wrex in ME1 they will tell a story how they met up (but no actual names are said) and had a standoff due to Wrex being a bounty hunter and got a contract on Aria.
Liara's father mentions her father having scars from the Rachni Wars (Wrex) and her mother being an asasi commando (Aria). Does all this make sense to you?[/QUOTE]
names are said during the conversation with wrex, the asari's name was aleena so its not exactly confirmed that she is aria unless she changed names or something
[QUOTE=guicool-BR-;35163629]I think that they didn't know what to include in the ending, so they just gave some random shit that happens, which creates the plot holes, and want the fans to say what is a good ending for the game and series ('Fanwank something so we can use as canon through DLC'). Kinda explains why they are posting "We are listening to your feedback".[/QUOTE]
Funniely enough, that's EXACTLY what happened :v:
[QUOTE=Haxxer;35163453]It has probably been posted, but I just realized the connections.
My theory is that Liara's grandfather is Wrex. When you speak with Aria in ME2 and Wrex in ME1 they will tell a story how they met up (but no actual names are said) and had a standoff due to Wrex being a bounty hunter and got a contract on Aria.
Liara's father mentions her father having scars from the Rachni Wars (Wrex) and her mother being an asasi commando (Aria). Does all this make sense to you?[/QUOTE]
Liara's mother was Matriarch Benezia.
Is it just me, or is the Revenant not a very good weapon in multiplayer?? It's so damn inaccurate and kills so slowly, even at close range. It's only seemed decent against like Atlases and Geth Primes because I can just hold down on the mouse button and each bullet will hit them, but against everything else, it's no good. Should I use another weapon>
[QUOTE=guicool-BR-;35163629]I think that they didn't know what to include in the ending, so they just gave some random shit that happens, which creates the plot holes, and want the fans to say what is a good ending for the game and series ('Fanwank something so we can use as canon through DLC'). Kinda explains why they are posting "We are listening to your feedback".
also
[img]http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Error_Message2_5536.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Here's the thing though. It is not difficult to come up with ending possibilities for Mass Effect 3 and, really, I thought it was staggeringly obvious what should have happened.
1) Traditional "triumphant" ending, a la Mass Effect 1 and 2 where Shepard walks over the corpse of his foe with a shit-eating grin as, once again, he and his team kick ass.
2) Failure ending, where the Reapers actually win.
3) Variety of middle-ground endings that result in the potential deaths of squadmates, fleets, or even planets.
Really, was this so hard?
TVTropes opens to the Fridge Logic and find something to describe ME3
[quote=TvTropes]So, regarding the now-infamous ending for Mass Effect 3, this troper has a theory regarding why it is the way it is. Think about how the first game was deliberately a Reconstruction of the Space Opera of the '70s and '80s, and the second was more heavily influenced by Darkerand Edgier '90s sci-fi. That would mean that the third game would logically be more influenced by sci-fi from the '00s and '10s. Which means the Battlestar Galactica reboot, Star Trek: Enterprise, Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe (not so much Stargate SG-1), and Lost, among others. All of which were far bleaker than what had come before and had endings that were either bleak, unsatisfying, obtuse, outright insane, or some combination of the above. [/quote]
[QUOTE=guicool-BR-;35163664]TVTropes opens to the Fridge Logic and find something to describe ME3[/QUOTE]
I keep meaning to see the last episode of SG:U
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35163660]Here's the thing though. It is not difficult to come up with ending possibilities for Mass Effect 3 and, really, I thought it was staggeringly obvious what should have happened.
1) Traditional "triumphant" ending, a la Mass Effect 1 and 2 where Shepard walks over the corpse of his foe with a shit-eating grin as, once again, he and his team kick ass.
2) Failure ending, where the Reapers actually win.
3) Variety of middle-ground endings that result in the potential deaths of squadmates, fleets, or even planets.
Really, was this so hard?[/QUOTE]
Well, based on that now infamous "Final Hours" stuff, it wasn't, and was actually scripted, but then scrapped - players don't need all that, apparently. Just let them speculate, they're fine with that.
[QUOTE=Ridge;35163702]I keep meaning to see the last episode of SG:U[/QUOTE]
Talk about a terrible ending to a series.
[QUOTE=Scar;35163650]Funniely enough, that's EXACTLY what happened :v:[/QUOTE]
Now they pay the price.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35163660]Here's the thing though. It is not difficult to come up with ending possibilities for Mass Effect 3 and, really, I thought it was staggeringly obvious what should have happened.
1) Traditional "triumphant" ending, a la Mass Effect 1 and 2 where Shepard walks over the corpse of his foe with a shit-eating grin as, once again, he and his team kick ass.
2) Failure ending, where the Reapers actually win.
3) Variety of middle-ground endings that result in the potential deaths of squadmates, fleets, or even planets.
Really, was this so hard?[/QUOTE]
I guess it wasn't. But I really wouldn't like a triumphant ending, I was fully expecting Shepard to die ('I'll sleep when I'm dead.') in any endings, more like a survival ending. Basically the endings we have now, with the plot holes fixed and a epilogue a la Dragon Age: Origins and the 'PLAY THE DLC WE GONNA RELEASE LATER' screen afterwards.
I yet have to finish the game, and it's a blast, more fun than ME2, so I can't really comment on the endings.
[QUOTE=Ridge;35163653]Liara's mother was Matriarch Benezia.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and that proves what?
This is my theory:
[IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7856270/theory.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35163548]You just don't get it, do you?
Why WOULDN'T I want to know the other possible endings? This series sells itself on the choices you make, with Casey Hudson and Michael Gamble making explicit promises that there would be wildly varying endings that don't leave any questions unanswered. They did the exact opposite.[/QUOTE]
you don't get it. they're not your endings, so they don't change your story, so why do you care?
again I avoided preview coverage so no disappointment here. in theory the endings are wildly different, they just aren't CLEARLY presented as such.
[QUOTE=Delta616;35163712]Talk about a terrible ending to a series.[/QUOTE]
I've heard that it was only supposed to be the season finale. The show wasn't cancelled until after they had filmed that episode.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35163660]Here's the thing though. It is not difficult to come up with ending possibilities for Mass Effect 3 and, really, I thought it was staggeringly obvious what should have happened.
1) Traditional "triumphant" ending, a la Mass Effect 1 and 2 where Shepard walks over the corpse of his foe with a shit-eating grin as, once again, he and his team kick ass.
2) Failure ending, where the Reapers actually win.
3) Variety of middle-ground endings that result in the potential deaths of squadmates, fleets, or even planets.
Really, was this so hard?[/QUOTE]
why would you want it to stick to genre conventions? lol that makes no sense
I will hate SciFi Channel forever for doing that to SG:U.
They should've at least given them one more season so they could close the series out properly instead of "HURR DURR GOIN INTO STASIS FOR YEARS".
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35163755]why would you want it to stick to genre conventions? lol that makes no sense[/QUOTE]
because they're the endings that everybody wanted
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35163744]you don't get it. they're not your endings, so they don't change your story, so why do you care?
again I avoided preview coverage so no disappointment here. in theory the endings are wildly different, they just aren't CLEARLY presented as such.[/QUOTE]
This line says the best:
Mass Effect is a very cool choose your own adventure book. “Do you kill the Geth? If so turn to page 22.”
[QUOTE=Ridge;35163753]I've heard that it was only supposed to be the season finale. The show wasn't cancelled until after they had filmed that episode.[/QUOTE]
Nah, they reshot more than half the episode, but still left it on a huge cliffhanger.
[QUOTE=guicool-BR-;35163168]Oh wow, this read this:
The [sp]Catalyst[/sp] has earned the nickname "Task Manager", because it gives you the option [sp]of controlling the Reapers, altering them, or deleting them. In other words CTRL+ALT+DELETE.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Okay, I laughed pretty hard.
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35163755]why would you want it to stick to genre conventions? lol that makes no sense[/QUOTE]
Isn't it obvious? Thats what Mass Effect is about. Each decision you make effects how the end plays out. Having just a couple extremely similar endings breaks away from the core game design of ME.
Also sure the endings are horribad and Mary-Sue traits are boring and whatnot, but this is the best dialogue from the game (IMO):
[quote]
[B]Shepard[/B]: Why me? Why put me in charge of all this?
[B]Hackett[/B]: Shepard, let me tell you something that I've learned the hard way. You can pay a soldier to fire a gun. You can pay him to charge the enemy and take a hill. But you can't pay him to believe.
[B]Shepard[/B]: ...I don't follow, sir.
[B]Hackett[/B]: When you went up against Sovereign, there was no good reason to believe you'd win. But your crew didn't seem to care — they went along anyway. Your trip through the Omega 4 relay? That was a suicide mission if there ever was one. Yet there your crew was, standing beside you, proud to serve. With all you're facing out there, one thing impresses me most: you inspire confidence. I know everything hasn't gone as well as you'd hoped. Every war has its disagreements, so to speak. But... Your crew has done things no one else would even try — simply because you asked them to. Why? Because they believed in you. Their leader. That's what I need now.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35163744]you don't get it. they're not your endings, so they don't change your story, so why do you care?
again I avoided preview coverage so no disappointment here. in theory the endings are wildly different, they just aren't CLEARLY presented as such.[/QUOTE]
They endings are NOT wildly different, and this is all but proven fact at this point.
[quote]why would you want it to stick to genre conventions? lol that makes no sense[/quote]
Because they WORK. They don't introduce a bullshit deus ex machina, they don't create plot holes (often), and they feel good. Genre conventions exist because they're a proven formula that people like.
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