Even with fuel for FTL being available, it's still only viable for system to system travel. It isn't viable for cluster to cluster.
So, either way, every cluster is isolated from the other.
[QUOTE=Egevened;35246333][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-49jLLa3N4[/media][/QUOTE]
I nearly fell off my chair laughing.
[editline]22nd March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;35246374]Even with fuel for FTL being available, it's still only viable for system to system travel. It isn't viable for cluster to cluster.
So, either way, every cluster is isolated from the other.[/QUOTE]
That too. So you worked your ass off to save the Galaxy over the course of 3 games only for it to end up being even more fucked up.
[QUOTE=Jackald;35246370]Again , all your points rely on the mass relays. Yes, the thanix cannons were reverse engineered very quickly, yes humanity did progress rapidly with the prothean ruins, but all of our brains are spread out among the galaxy. Most of the scientists on Earth are probably dead, and the ones on the citadel are probably dead. All of the scientists in various colonies and space stations around the galaxy will likely die from lack of supplies, and even if they don't they're cut off.
Doesn't matter how easy Reaper tech is to understand if we've only got soldiers on Earth.[/QUOTE]
Briliant scientists spread out, cough cough crucible team cough cough
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;35246374]Even with fuel for FTL being available, it's still only viable for system to system travel. It isn't viable for cluster to cluster.
So, either way, every cluster is isolated from the other.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Stelar density is pretty good in most cases. Hell the clusters in mass effect tend to be somewhat borky anyway. Which means you will get discharge spots even on cluster to cluster travel.
The clusters in the game seem to be more systems in close vicinity of a relay as opposed to actual clusters.
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;35246374]Even with fuel for FTL being available, it's still only viable for system to system travel. It isn't viable for cluster to cluster.
So, either way, every cluster is isolated from the other.[/QUOTE]
If the Reapers can reach Earth from outside the galaxy within six months, I think their technology would be pretty viable as a means of travel. Probably take about three months or so to cross the galaxy in a straight line.
[sp]I have a feeling their DLC will involve some epilogue mission to build new non-reaper relays.[/sp] Mark Meer has already publicly confirmed he's voice acting for more DLC, [sp]but I have no idea how that will work if your Shep died, as mine did.[/sp] Maybe we'll get to play as one of our squadmates? Maybe it's just pre-ending stuff like ME2. idk bioware why u do this
I really wish they'd just fix the ending but I'll bet they'll skirt around it as much as possible. /pessimism
[QUOTE=Cone;35246397]If the Reapers can reach Earth from outside the galaxy within six months, I think their technology would be pretty viable as a means of travel. Probably take about three months or so to cross the galaxy in a straight line.[/QUOTE]
It was said that they lost contact with all their outposts beyond the Sol relay in the beginning. So it's EXTREMELY likely that the Reapers found another cluster with a relay and went through there to Sol.
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35246368]Yup. Just proves that BioWare does not have really capable writers. We'll just put this here and put that there but there is no need to explain it! >_>[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say all the writers are bad. The majority of the writing team produced some really amazing moments. It's just that the ending was only written by the lead writer and some other dude and wasn't peer assessed by the rest of the team, hence all the BS and plotholes.
im still crying god
shepard has the wisdom of falcon
[QUOTE=Cone;35246397]If the Reapers can reach Earth from outside the galaxy within six months, I think their technology would be pretty viable as a means of travel. Probably take about three months or so to cross the galaxy in a straight line.[/QUOTE]
They were probably already underway after Sovereign failed, that makes it around 3 years (including the lenght of me2) and weren't that far in dark space pehaps.
[QUOTE=Ridge;35246497]It was said that they lost contact with all their outposts beyond the Sol relay in the beginning. So it's EXTREMELY likely that the Reapers found another cluster with a relay and went through there to Sol.[/QUOTE]
Well they still had to actually get inside the galaxy to reach a relay, and that's a huge distance right there.
[QUOTE=Greeneyes;35246498]I wouldn't say all the writers are bad. The majority of the writing team produced some really amazing moments. It's just that the ending was only written by the lead writer and some other dude and wasn't peer assessed by the rest of the team, hence all the BS and plotholes.[/QUOTE]
Depends on what you mean by writing. The writing itself fell apart for Me2. The thing had little to no overarching story and was more like an episodic show, focusing on a new character every week.
Sure the characters were well written, but there was virtually no story.
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They were probably already underway after Sovereign failed, that makes it around 3 years (including the lenght of me2) and weren't that far in dark space pehaps.
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They most likely powered up for the long trek after Shephard destroyed the Alpha relay and the human reaper.
Considering it took them roughly six months to take over batarian space, they probably reached the first relays in there a year and a half before reaching earth.
Overall if we also go how fast they process populations, it's quite possible a very large population of batarians still survive on their home planets.
[QUOTE=Cone;35246546]Well they still had to actually get inside the galaxy to reach a relay, and that's a huge distance right there.[/QUOTE]
They were already basically in the galaxy at the time of Arrival. Six months to travel to another cluster with a Relay is reasonable at FTL speeds.
Also remember, the Reapers were kicking in the Batarians and had already started assaulting parts of Turian space before hitting Earth.
[QUOTE=ToXiCsoldier;35246524]They were probably already underway after Sovereign failed, that makes it around 3 years (including the lenght of me2) and weren't that far in dark space pehaps.[/QUOTE]
I thought they had the Collectors for that, so they would kidnap colonies to make the human Reaper, then assault the Citadel and let them in like Saren had planned to. I figured that was why Harbinger said they would find another way.
What [I]was[/I] the purpose of the Collectors, anyways?
Y'know, if the [sp]relays are all broke in the endings[/sp], I guess that the galactic community would need to work with [sp]reliable cryo-preservation, with sleeper-ships being used to ferry thousands of cryo-preserved individuals[/sp] from one part of the galaxy to another. Unless they discover how to access hyperspace in the next few decades, [sp]cryo-ships[/sp] would be the only way forward.
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;35246574]They were already basically in the galaxy at the time of Arrival. Six months to travel to another cluster with a Relay is reasonable at FTL speeds.
Also remember, the Reapers were kicking in the Batarians and had already started assaulting parts of Turian space before hitting Earth.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't Arrival cannonically happen before the collector base?
[QUOTE=ironman17;35246594]Y'know, if the [sp]relays are all broke in the endings[/sp], I guess that the galactic community would need to work with [sp]reliable cryo-preservation, with sleeper-ships being used to ferry thousands of cryo-preserved individuals[/sp] from one part of the galaxy to another. Unless they discover how to access hyperspace in the next few decades, [sp]cryo-ships[/sp] would be the only way forward.[/QUOTE]
Hyperspace? You mean technology they already use? I sometimes feel like the people screaming how everyone is isolated to one planet don't even read the codex or kinda play the game.
Think I'll just a fourth playthrough...
This time I'm really going to play full Renegade...
[sp]...just like last time were I buckled under when I had to off Mordin.[/sp]
[QUOTE=wraithcat;35246597]Doesn't Arrival cannonically happen before the collector base?[/QUOTE]
You can play it any time after Horizon but it doesn't make sense to play it until after the suicide mission imo
[QUOTE=Greeneyes;35246498]I wouldn't say all the writers are bad. The majority of the writing team produced some really amazing moments. It's just that the ending was only written by the lead writer and some other dude and wasn't peer assessed by the rest of the team, hence all the BS and plotholes.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I didn't put that right, I agree. Most of their team is talented, but whoever wrote the ending is bad. I enjoyed every second of the game up until the ending, really great story and dialogues.
Edit: Also, considering BioWare's latest track record and how they blatantly lied about some stuff, I am having my doubts about the upcoming DLC that will explain or change the ending or both.
[QUOTE=Dominicus;35246620]Think I'll just a fourth playthrough...
This time I'm really going to play full Renegade...
[sp]...just like last time were I buckled under when I had to off Mordin.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Don't do it man
You can be a space asshole but doing that one action to Mordin is too far.
[QUOTE=Greeneyes;35246498]I wouldn't say all the writers are bad. The majority of the writing team produced some really amazing moments. It's just that the ending was only written by the lead writer and some other dude and wasn't peer assessed by the rest of the team, hence all the BS and plotholes.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion, [sp]curing the genophage[/sp] was the best part in the entire series.
Was anyone else expecting a scene where an Atlas fights a YMIR? Would've been badass to see those two go at it.
One thing I didn't understand about the criteria for the Geth-Quarian thing, is why does destroying the geth in ME2 help while converting them doesn't?
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;35245752]You sure you didn't and that it wasn't a Victory pack, Otherwise have a chat with EA[/QUOTE]
I contacted EA and they said that I needed to play Gold games during the Operation Goliath to unlock a N7 weapon in a Commendation Pack.
[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;35246830]I contacted EA and they said that I needed to play Gold games during the Operation Goliath to unlock a N7 weapon in a Commendation Pack.[/QUOTE]
What!? That's a LIE. I only played and finished the challenge on SILVER and I got an N7 sniper in my Commendation pack.
[editline]22nd March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sector 7;35246810]In my opinion, [sp]curing the genophage[/sp] was the best part in the entire series.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I love Krogans. Also, [sp]when I managed to unite the Geth and the Quarians and make them live in peace on Rannoch, that felt awesome[/sp]
You know, along with the ending DLC, Bioware should patch in a different picture for Tali's face. As in, something original, and not just a photoshopped picture of someone else's face. I doubt it would take very much effort at all.
[QUOTE=The DooD;35246822]One thing I didn't understand about the criteria for the Geth-Quarian thing, is why does destroying the geth in ME2 help while converting them doesn't?[/QUOTE]
If you convert them, there are more Geth forces at Rannoc (or however the Gypsy planet is called), so the gypsy fleet takes higher casulties.
If you destrosy them, there a fewer, and so the Quarians take fewer casulties.
Dunno, but maybe they are more trusting because they lost less of their people?
[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;35246830]I contacted EA and they said that I needed to play Gold games during the Operation Goliath to unlock a N7 weapon in a Commendation Pack.[/QUOTE]
What? It's silver.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;35246597]Hyperspace? You mean technology they already use?[/QUOTE]
Actually I meant like the dimension of hyperspace we see in other sci-fi shows; that alternate plane of existence where the laws of reality are different.
Wormholes could be another avenue of research, even if it does attract the Something.
[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;35246912]You know, along with the ending DLC, Bioware should patch in a different picture for Tali's face. As in, something original, and not just a photoshopped picture of someone else's face. I doubt it would take very much effort at all.[/QUOTE]
Too late. What has been seen cannot be unseen.
[QUOTE=Scar;35246924]If you convert them, there are more Geth forces at Rannoc (or however the Gypsy planet is called), so the gypsy fleet takes higher casulties.
If you destrosy them, there a fewer, and so the Quarians take fewer casulties.
Dunno, but maybe they are more trusting because they lost less of their people?[/QUOTE]
Means the Geth aren't as likely to do war simply because they don't have the forces necessary to carry it out.
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