[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35338386][img]http://i.imgur.com/NOEAd.jpg[/img]
...huh.
[editline]29th March 2012[/editline]
Same person who decided that binding every important command to "SPACEBAR" was a good idea.[/QUOTE]
That's probably... I mean, not- wait...
[B]what[/B]
[QUOTE=Nibwoddle;35338459]That's probably... I mean, not- wait...
[B]what[/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's pretty much the reaction I had. Doesn't change the fact that the choices at the end could have been better and that we DESPERATELY need some form of epilogue...but it does help validate the existence of the StarChild.
I just want the indoctrination theory to be true simply because that would be pretty awesome and it would make it so that they ending would actually be exciting and could be epic...but would they go through that much work post-release? I dunno...I dunno.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35338386][img]http://i.imgur.com/NOEAd.jpg[/img]
...huh.
[editline]29th March 2012[/editline]
Same person who decided that binding every important command to "SPACEBAR" was a good idea.[/QUOTE]
But it says they were created to protect organic life, while the kid in ME3 is supposedly the one behind the Reapers and everything.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35338491]I just want the indoctrination theory to be true simply because that would be pretty awesome and it would make it so that they ending would actually be exciting and could be epic...but would they go through that much work post-release? I dunno...I dunno.[/QUOTE]
Except the Indoctrination Theory is basically "The last 20 minutes of the game were just a dream sequence, and The Reapers win in all but one specific choice."
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35338506]But it says they were created to protect organic life, while the kid in ME3 is supposedly the one behind the Reapers and everything.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Reapers are protecting life by making sure Synthetics don't overrun the galaxy and keep organic life from ever getting a chance.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;35338457]Actually, I'm curious...if Drew's ending had made the cut...
[b]What ending would you guys have chosen?[/b][/QUOTE]
The one where the reapers all die and you rely on the civilizations of the galaxy to stop everything from being destroyed.
Stanley Woo says that the endings didn't boil down to just picking a color.
Explosion imminent.
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35338506]But it says they were created to protect organic life, while the kid in ME3 is supposedly the one behind the Reapers and everything.[/QUOTE]
Whose reasoning is that [sp]they're protecting organic life by ensuring we don't get too advanced, create legions of synthetics and create a holocaust for ALL organic life[/sp].
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35338514]Except the Indoctrination Theory is basically "The last 20 minutes of the game were just a dream sequence, and The Reapers win in all but one specific choice."[/QUOTE]
But its just such a good idea dude :(
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35338516]Reapers are protecting life by making sure Synthetics don't overrun the galaxy and keep organic life from ever getting a chance.[/QUOTE]
Ah, you're right. In their mind they are actually helping everyone. I know that BioWare has discussed it and probably does have some lore behind who the Reapers actually are, who made them etc. I wonder if they came up with anything good.
[QUOTE=Jzzb;35338521]Stanley Woo says that the endings didn't boil down to just picking a color.
Explosion imminent.[/QUOTE]
You provide the link, I'll provide the popcorn and chairs. Dis gun' be gud.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35338514]Except the Indoctrination Theory is basically "The last 20 minutes of the game were just a dream sequence, and The Reapers win in all but one specific choice."[/QUOTE]
Personally?
The ending shouldn't have had a choice at all. You already made tons and tons of choices throughout the series; the ending should've been an opportunity to see everything come together.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35338524]But its just such a good idea dude :([/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's good in that it retcons the existing endings for a better one, but that could be accomplished in a lot of different, better ways. It's pretty much stated that if your will is strong enough you can overcome indoctrination. Why would Shepard be indoctrinated if he could so easily break free of it in a 20 minute dream sequence? It doesn't make any sense regarding his character.
[QUOTE=Jzzb;35338521]Stanley Woo says that the endings didn't boil down to just picking a color.
Explosion imminent.[/QUOTE]
:v: I don't think anyone should take that guy seriously. I mean really, who writes "END OF LINE(RINE)" in every other post.
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35338527]Ah, you're right. In their mind they are actually helping everyone. I know that BioWare has discussed it and probably does have some lore behind who the Reapers actually are, who made them etc. I wonder if they came up with anything good.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they enslaved the god kid, similar to the keepers, or indoctrinated, or something, and he serves a function for the reapers or somethin
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35338533]You provide the link, I'll provide the popcorn and chairs. Dis gun' be gud.[/QUOTE][url]http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10750224&lf=8[/url]
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35338386][img]http://i.imgur.com/NOEAd.jpg[/img]
...huh.
[editline]29th March 2012[/editline]
Same person who decided that binding every important command to "SPACEBAR" was a good idea.[/QUOTE]
Fucking CLEVER girls.
[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;35338517]The one where the reapers all die and you rely on the civilizations of the galaxy to stop everything from being destroyed.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. With the mind of dozens of races no longer being hampered by the Reapers, surely some sort of scientific solution would emerge over millenia.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35338547]No it isn't. It's good in that it retcons the existing endings for a better one, but that could be accomplished in a lot of different, better ways. It's pretty much stated that if your will is strong enough you can overcome indoctrination. Why would Shepard be indoctrinated if he could so easily break free of it in a 20 minute dream sequence? It doesn't make any sense regarding his character.[/QUOTE]
you're right you got me, the indoc ending is really bad and that's what i believed all along, even though it would make sense in the universe.
[QUOTE=Jzzb;35338550][url]http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10750224&lf=8[/url][/QUOTE]
Wow...I'm starting to think tempers over there have reached the breaking point.
[QUOTE=Clementine;35338549]Maybe they enslaved the god kid, similar to the keepers, or indoctrinated, or something, and he serves a function for the reapers or somethin[/QUOTE]
It's explicitly stated that the Star Kid created the Reapers for the specific purpose of wiping out advanced life across the galaxy every 'cycle' though. It's great that they kinda foreshadowed that in the codex and all, but he isn't protecting the Galaxy from synthetics. He's destroying it with Synthetics. Literally, that's exactly what's happening.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35338666]It's explicitly stated that the Star Kid created the Reapers for the specific purpose of wiping out advanced life across the galaxy every 'cycle' though. It's great that they kinda foreshadowed that in the codex and all, but he isn't protecting the Galaxy from synthetics. He's destroying it with Synthetics. Literally, that's exactly what's happening.[/QUOTE]
Partially correct: [sp]The StarKid explicitly states that the Reapers only kill -advanced- organic life in order to make room for the next "generation" of advanced organic life. This ensures that society never grows advanced enough to produce synthetics that would wipe out ALL organic life.[/sp]
The galaxy is -technically- protected from synthetics, even if the culling is being done by synthetics.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35338666]It's explicitly stated that the Star Kid created the Reapers for the specific purpose of wiping out advanced life across the galaxy every 'cycle' though. It's great that they kinda foreshadowed that in the codex and all, but he isn't protecting the Galaxy from synthetics. He's destroying it with Synthetics. Literally, that's exactly what's happening.[/QUOTE]
Here's his thought process:
To the Star Child, liquefying people and putting their essence into Reapers isn't truly destroying a race, but rather preserving it. What he's trying to prevent is [I]someone else[/I] making a Reaper equivalent that proceeds to indiscriminately pillage and burn the galaxy, only difference being the Synthetics will probably see [I]everyone[/I] as a threat, either in the present or future. To the Star Child, 100 years of turmoil and methodical harvesting followed by 50k years of uninterrupted organic prosperity and growth is far better then 50-100k years of organic growth followed by a damn near infinite amount of time where nothing with sapience sans circuitry is around.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35338677]Incorrect: [sp]The StarKid explicitly states that the Reapers only kill -advanced- organic life in order to make room for the next "generation" of advanced organic life. This ensures that society never grows advanced enough to produce synthetics that would wipe out ALL organic life.[/sp][/QUOTE]
In any case, it's still something that was proven wrong throughout the game. And even if it wasn't, it's still an incredibly lame explanation.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35338677]Partially correct: [sp]The StarKid explicitly states that the Reapers only kill -advanced- organic life in order to make room for the next "generation" of advanced organic life. This ensures that society never grows advanced enough to produce synthetics that would wipe out ALL organic life.[/sp]
The galaxy is -technically- protected from synthetics, even if the culling is being done by synthetics.[/QUOTE]
Did you not read my post? I said that they wipe out advanced life. But it's a self-fufilling prophecy.
"In order to ensure that Synthetics don't grow too powerful and wipe out civilization as we know it, I'll create a race of Synthetics to wipe out civilization as we know it."
That's not protecting anyone from anything. If it really was supposed to protect people from Synthetics, every cycle they'd wipe out synthetics. Why wipe out organics if the problem lies with synthetics?
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