• Mass Effect Megathread: DING DONG BANNU edition
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[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;35307070][sp]If it makes you feel any better, it's been officially stated some people managed to get off the citadel in time, but most of the population didn't make it out. Hopefully, it's safe to bet Kelly was probably among the few thousand people or so to have made it out.[/sp][/QUOTE] Just overheard refugees talking. [sp]Cerberus killed Kelly in the attack[/sp]
[QUOTE=mac338;35356365]Just overheard refugees talking. [sp]Cerberus killed Kelly in the attack[/sp][/QUOTE] Only if you don't tell her to change her hair/name.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35356226]Why don't you just cheat in the minerals?[/QUOTE] How? And can that get me banned? I have my copy on Origin.
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35356580]How? And can that get me banned? I have my copy on Origin.[/QUOTE] No, it can't get you banned. Why would it? As for how, download the save editor for ME2 and edit the mineral counts.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35356595]No, it can't get you banned. Why would it? As for how, download the save editor for ME2 and edit the mineral counts.[/QUOTE] Thanks!
[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;35354973][url]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/9511-Mass-Effect-3-Gets-An-Ending[/url] I knew Yahtzee would call the fanbase a bunch of idiots.[/QUOTE] "Commander Shepard, a man with all the resources available to anyone in the universe, the greatest technology, the greatest minds and the greatest navies at his side, is powerless to overcome the inevitability of entropy." Yes Yhatzee. That's such a great story! A story of hopelessness and destruction. They built you up, give you hope, have constant themes of galactic harmony, and then kill you and say 'haha, nice try but i told you it was inevitable!'. Fuck OFF you stupid cunt. That's not how storytelling goes. I mean it can, if you want to tell a story that pisses off your audience and alienates you from telling any stories in the future because nobody wants to hear your downer bullshit especially if you keep building up hope during it. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35356164]exactly. because casey hudson is a man who KNOWS what storytelling needs, whether you like it or not[/QUOTE] No, he fuckin doesn't. He needs a crew of writers to keep him in line. He forewent that for the ending and devastates the series. Both Yahtzee and Casey miss the point of their own series. He irreversibly disregarded everything built up so far. Was it worth ending a tale about survival against all odds and peace in the galaxy with 'inescapable destruction'? Was it worth everyone hating you for it? I wager not. It's not rocket science. If you build up somebody's hopes, then tell them to get fucked, they're not going to be happy about it. And they probably won't listen to you ever again. [editline]31st March 2012[/editline] The reapers are an enemy you fight throughout the whole series. You want to defeat them. After 3 games of fighting them, they decimate you, and you die. Everyone dies. What's the fucking point? What's the message in that? 'Resistance IS futile, hope is an illusion'? What a horrendous message, if that's the point. But from playing the games, everything leading to the ending told me the opposite. It told me the impossible is possible. It's said that fighting the reapers is a losing battle, but you just know Shepard is going to overcome the odds and kick ass. And that's the whole point, because you're Shepard. That's the satisfaction you get, saving the whole galaxy. Yeah, you can fail. If you die. Then you can try again, until you get it right. Having death and destruction being the canonical ending is such a huge smack to the face. I wouldn't even mind if Shep died as long as everyone else was saved, but you don't even get that satisfaction. Casey Hudson can eat a dick for thinking this was a logical, or any way good ending to this series. What a fucking moron.
the negative to response to me3, if it has made anyone do anything it made me drastically alter the ending to my book I'm wriitng
Also what Yahtzee said about the theme of inevitability is completely wrong. The series was all about [I]overcoming[/I] inevitability. Saren's victory in ME1 was "inevitable", but you stopped him. Taking down the collectors in ME2 is always considered a suicide mission, yet it is entirely possible to get everyone out alive. Overcoming the impossible was one of the main themes of the series. It is just wrong to say that the inevitability of defeat was the whole point all along.
[QUOTE=Jackald;35356749]"Instead of 3 coloured explosions, I shall offer.... A FOURTH COLOUR!!!"[/QUOTE] not really, but it made me realize people want to be rewarded in an ending of a story [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] the protagonist can not ambigously "fail" his objective, to say so
[QUOTE=Jackald;35356749]"Instead of 3 coloured explosions, I shall offer.... A FOURTH COLOUR!!!"[/QUOTE] [B]Purple Ending[/B]: All credits in the galaxy are deposited in the account of a particular shifty-looking cow.
[QUOTE=Egevened;35356767]not really, but it made me realize people want to be rewarded in an ending of a story [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] the protagonist can not ambigously "fail" his objective, to say so[/QUOTE] i would tell you that the principles at work here dont necessarily apply to literary fiction but im sure any book written by you would be terrible anyway so fuck it i mean if you can't figure out that the ending of ME3 is complete and utter shit on your own then i see no way for you to decipher how to tell an engaging story without decades of trial and error
What I want to know was why Yahtzee thought "succumbing to inevitability" was a plot point, because the whole trilogy was clearly about overcoming it, because it's clearly the opposite. What with the victories against Sovereign, Saren and the success of the Suicide Mission, even when they're made out that not everyone's gonna make it out alive, and yet Shepard still manages to accomplish all of that.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35356936]i would tell you that the principles at work here dont necessarily apply to literary fiction but im sure any book written by you would be terrible anyway so fuck it i mean if you can't figure out that the ending of ME3 is complete and utter shit on your own then i see no way for you to decipher how to tell an engaging story without decades of trial and error[/QUOTE] Or that he simply said "rewarded in the ending of an story". Therefor realizing what kind of bitter or sad ending he had, he will re-write. Way to be a phallus, bro.
To be honest I can't understand it when people call Yahtzee's videos 'reviews'. It's all simply done for comedic value. Although games he dislikes are normally still bad games, I wouldn't buy a game from his recommendation. I watch his videos because they're funny. It's also nice to see that most people are disagreeing with him - he's gotten a bit big headed recently, thinks he's the king of videogames.
[QUOTE=Greeneyes;35357187]Yahtzee's gotten a bit big headed recently, thinks he's the king of videogames.[/QUOTE] To be fair I don't think there's really a king of video-games. Yahtzee's more of a rook in my view, with TB being kind of a bishop.
[QUOTE=Egevened;35356767]not really, but it made me realize people want to be rewarded in an ending of a story [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] the protagonist can not ambigously "fail" his objective, to say so[/QUOTE] It's perfectly possible for the protagonist to fail at his given objective. The thing is, a lot of the time it's added in as just a way to make the audience feel sad, and I don't think that really adds to a story as much as it should. just make the failure add to the story, so what you decided to write the book about (like a moral or aesop for example) is more defined
Good stories can be tragedies. Mass Effect has never been a tragedy so the tragic ending was retarded If you're writing a tragic story, it can have a tragic ending. This is simple shit and no one should have to explain it to anyone
canuhearme enlightened me on the subject A Zombie Goast: Bioware fans aren't exactly the best influence
[QUOTE=Jackald;35357572]He wrote a longass article which is meant to be serious and non-comedic about this in which he said that succumbing to inevitable defeat was a good ending. (ignoring plot holes so big you could drive tankers through them)[/QUOTE] That's the thing though you didn't succumb to inevitable defeat. A new character showed up at the last second and made the entire conflict irrelevant. I would have rathered an ending where the Reapers win to the crap we got.
[QUOTE=Jackald;35357572]He wrote a longass article which is meant to be serious and non-comedic about this in which he said that succumbing to inevitable defeat was a good ending. (ignoring plot holes so big you could drive tankers through them)[/QUOTE] I know, I've read that - and several others, of his [i]Extra Punctuation[/i]. When i said 'funny' I was referring to his videos and 'big-headed' to his articles. Some of the articles are interesting, others stink of him having not really understood the subject.
[QUOTE=Jackald;35357718]Yeah, he has a habit of not delving very deeply into stuff, then writing impassioned "YOU'RE ALL WRONG I'M RIGHT" articles. Like that time he reviewed monster hunter when he didn't get past the tutorial. [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] "NOW I'VE NEVER REALLY PLAYED MUCH MASS EFFECT, NOR DO I CARE ABOUT SCI FI, BUT THE FANDOM IS COMPLETELY WRONG AND HERE'S WHY"[/QUOTE] He's smart when he takes the time to not be completely ignorant
I thought Kaiden was annoying but after the chat in the commons I felt better about him, glad he realizes he's annoying himself. :v:
[QUOTE=Egevened;35357486]A Zombie Goast: Bioware fans aren't exactly the best influence[/QUOTE] is this the title of your book?
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[QUOTE=MiX-A;35357936][IMG]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1omv8R4L41qjtsxuo1_500.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Needs more [sp]Legion[/sp].
[QUOTE=MiX-A;35357936][IMG]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1omv8R4L41qjtsxuo1_500.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] needs [sp]everyone that inevitably dies[/sp], even [sp]Shep D:[/sp]
[QUOTE=Greeneyes;35358008]needs [sp]everyone that inevitably dies[/sp], even [sp]Shep D:[/sp][/QUOTE] that'd be one crowded freakin beach
[QUOTE=Cone;35358022]that'd be one crowded freakin beach[/QUOTE] No one cares about those silly unnamed soldiers. We could just do with the major characters.
[QUOTE=Jackald;35358061]Fuck everyone, all it needs is [sp]Garrus, Shepard, deck chairs, drinks, and a dead reaper[/sp][/QUOTE] If you include [sp]Mordin, Thane and Kirrahe[/sp] in "everyone" you are dead to me.
[QUOTE=MiX-A;35357936][IMG]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1omv8R4L41qjtsxuo1_500.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] where's wreav i greave for wreave liek dis f u cri evryt1em
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