[QUOTE=Tom083;35359819]Completed ME3
Oh God..[/QUOTE]
All who finish Mass Effect 3 deserve an instant hug to ease the pain.
[QUOTE=Wii60;35359876]probably posted but i dont care
[url]http://www.gametrailers.com/video/mass-effect-mega64/728610[/url][/QUOTE]
I agree with them, games have bad endings all the time. Why are people so uptight and bitchy about this one?
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35359985]Please show me where Bioware says the Indoctrination Theory is canon.
Your entire argument essentially amounts to "no the game is good because this fan fiction i read explained everything and had a great ending!!!!!!!!!!!!"[/QUOTE]
LMAO son... Bioware said so many times on Twitter that there's more to the ending which they ain't revealing yet cause it's too soon. And a fan fiction is the type of thing someone on this forum would write about their Tali wet dream son. The indoctrination theory is a legit theory that a shitload of people are talking about and there's videos on it son. By disregarding it you're basically covering your ears and going "lalalala" lol.
I don't even think the game is very good anyway I just think the ending was clever.
[QUOTE=RunawayLove;35359768]Yea but that's not what that guy with all the sons dickriding him was saying, son was literally screaming cause he couldn't handle the sad ending, he wanted the ending to be the most generic predictable ending in the world cause he needs bioware to reassure him that overcoming the impossible is possible. Lol smh so hard, how unstable of a person do you have to be. Why play a game or experience any piece of art if you just want it to come packaged with the most generic predictable ending, you're not getting shit out of it. Obviously the dude was right about the stanbase being idiots yo and they're clearly emotionally stunted. It also provides closure to every possible story and character arc, giving the audience the all-important catharsis and gentle letting go.
Also you mention plot holes but those are all explained by the indoctrination theory son...[/QUOTE]
Protip: By modern times, the Lord of the Rings film trilogy has one of the most cliche "happy rainbow" endings out there...and it is easily one of the most satisfying endings of all time. Want to know why? It's because it's what the series was building towards. There was plenty of sacrifice, but one of the central themes of the trilogy was overcoming insurmountable odds through strong will and brotherhood.
Mass Effect, as a trilogy, was building towards exactly the same thing. Then the ending took a complete left turn that goes against [B]every[/B] single theme the trilogy had established up until that point. It is extremely difficult to pull a twist like that off, and Bioware wasn't able to do it.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35359985]Please show me where Bioware says the Indoctrination Theory is canon.
Your entire argument essentially amounts to "no the game is good because this fan fiction i read explained everything and had a great ending!!!!!!!!!!!!"[/QUOTE]
Stop feeding him.
[QUOTE=RunawayLove;35360023]LMAO son... Bioware said so many times on Twitter that there's more to the ending which they ain't revealing yet cause it's too soon. And a fan fiction is the type of thing someone on this forum would write about their Tali wet dream son. The indoctrination theory is a legit theory that a shitload of people are talking about and there's videos on it son. By disregarding it you're basically covering your ears and going "lalalala" lol.
I don't even think the game is very good anyway I just think the ending was clever.[/QUOTE]
So, you can't show me where Bioware said the Indoctrination Theory was canon?
Alright cool so I guess that means the Indoctrination Theory, as it stands, is non-canon.
[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;35359989]All who finish Mass Effect 3 deserve an instant hug to ease the pain.[/QUOTE]
After I beat ME3 I just felt like I needed someone else to talk to who also beat it. It made me feel better knowing others felt the same feeling.
[QUOTE=Waluigi;35360008]I agree with them, games have bad endings all the time. Why are people so uptight and bitchy about this one?[/QUOTE]
Uh, usually if a game has a bad ending, it is considered a bad game. Bioware has made a lot of good games, and very few bad ones. They come out with the final in a trilogy of really great games. The ending is really bad. People are upset, because the rest of the games were really great and the ending was something befitting a low grade, bargain-bin title.
It's really not that hard to tell why people are upset.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35360080]Uh, usually if a game has a bad ending, it is considered a bad game. Bioware has made a lot of good games, and very few bad ones. They come out with the final in a trilogy of really great games. The ending is really bad. People are upset, because the rest of the games were really great and the ending was something befitting a low grade, bargain-bin title.
It's really not that hard to tell why people are upset.[/QUOTE]
Probably wouldn't have escalated so quickly if Bioware hadn't promised us the opposite of what they gave us.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35360059]Protip: By modern times, the Lord of the Rings film trilogy has one of the most cliche "happy rainbow" endings out there...and it is easily one of the most satisfying endings of all time. Want to know why? It's because it's what the series was building towards. There was plenty of sacrifice, but one of the central themes of the trilogy was overcoming insurmountable odds through strong will and brotherhood.
Mass Effect, as a trilogy, was building towards exactly the same thing. Then the ending took a complete left turn that goes against [B]every[/B] single theme the trilogy had established up until that point. It is extremely difficult to pull a twist like that off, and Bioware wasn't able to do it.[/QUOTE]
But they didn't pull the ending out of nowhere just to be edgy. Their point in the end was that the Reapers purpose was to destroy organic life before it got out of hand, and that it's cyclical and shit. Basically the message is "sometimes you can't stop the inevitable".
If you think an ending has to be happy to be satisfying than I don't know what to say to you son... Except, again, have you ever watched a movie with a sad ending?
[editline]30th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35360065]So, you can't show me where Bioware said the Indoctrination Theory was canon?
Alright cool so I guess that means the Indoctrination Theory, as it stands, is non-canon.[/QUOTE]
Lol you do realize you're acting like a 10 year old right? "If you can't prove it, I won't even consider it" is basically what you're saying son... smh so hard. That's like saying there's no chance that Tony Soprano died at the end of the Sopranos because David Chase never came out and said he did...
Didn't Night Watch have an ending where the "bad guys" won?
Oh crap is Operation Raptor starting today?
Is it?
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35360101]Probably wouldn't have escalated so quickly if Bioware hadn't promised us the opposite of what they gave us.[/QUOTE]
That too. Bioware promised an ending where everything was explained, and everything was tied up neatly. In one Twitter post they also promised 'thousands of possible endings'. The ending was bad enough, but the fact that they blatantly lied to us about what it would be prior to the game's release made it even worse.
[editline]30th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=EXoDUSFLT;35360173]Oh crap is Operation Raptor starting today?[/QUOTE]
It starts 5 P.M. Pacific time, today.
[QUOTE=RunawayLove;35360110]But they didn't pull the ending out of nowhere just to be edgy. Their point in the end was that the Reapers purpose was to destroy organic life before it got out of hand, and that it's cyclical and shit. Basically the message is "sometimes you can't stop the inevitable".
If you think an ending has to be happy to be satisfying than I don't know what to say to you son... Except, again, have you ever watched a movie with a sad ending?[/QUOTE]
The problem with the message of "Sometimes you can't stop the inevitable" is the fact that 99% of the trilogy has been bashing the exact opposite into our heads. Shepard and his team have ALWAYS beaten the odds. One of the major themes of the trilogy is overcoming the impossible. To completely reverse that in the last 5 minutes is a poorly handled twist.
Also, there are plenty of sad endings that are excellent. Nowhere did I say a happy ending is necessary, rather that it's simply what the trilogy was building towards. The Green Mile had one of the saddest endings I've seen, but it was also one of the greatest. The difference is that the -entire- movie was building towards it.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35360197]The problem with the message of "Sometimes you can't stop the inevitable" is the fact that 99% of the trilogy has been bashing the exact opposite into our heads. Shepard and his team have ALWAYS beaten the odds. One of the major themes of the trilogy is overcoming the impossible. To completely reverse that in the last 5 minutes is a poorly handled twist.
Also, there are plenty of sad endings that are excellent. Nowhere did I say a happy ending is necessary, rather that it's simply what the trilogy was building towards. The Green Mile had one of the saddest endings I've seen, but it was also one of the greatest. The difference is that the -entire- movie was building towards it.[/QUOTE]
Also the fact that you DO stop The Reapers. You destroy them, control them, or foil their plan. It has nothing to do with inevitability, since you prove that you CAN stop them. It's just a really bullshitty and macguffin-y way to do it.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35360181]
It starts 5 P.M. Pacific time, today.[/QUOTE]
Why does it start so late? That's 7 in the morning over here.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35360080]Uh, usually if a game has a bad ending, it is considered a bad game. Bioware has made a lot of good games, and very few bad ones. They come out with the final in a trilogy of really great games. The ending is really bad. People are upset, because the rest of the games were really great and the ending was something befitting a low grade, bargain-bin title.
It's really not that hard to tell why people are upset.[/QUOTE]
I think it's dumb to judge an entire game based solely on its ending, but saying we do that, and the game is the worst game you've ever played because of that. So, what? Why are you so entitled to force Bioware to change the ending? What do they owe you?
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;35360227]Why does it start so late? That's 7 in the morning over here.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing it's because that's where Bioware is.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35360197]The problem with the message of "Sometimes you can't stop the inevitable" is the fact that 99% of the trilogy has been bashing the exact opposite into our heads. Shepard and his team have ALWAYS beaten the odds. One of the major themes of the trilogy is overcoming the impossible. To completely reverse that in the last 5 minutes is a poorly handled twist.
Also, there are plenty of sad endings that are excellent. Nowhere did I say a happy ending is necessary, rather that it's simply what the trilogy was building towards. The Green Mile had one of the saddest endings I've seen, but it was also one of the greatest. The difference is that the -entire- movie was building towards it.[/QUOTE]
Yea I can understand what you're saying son, but still someone could go through life winning constantly and then get hit with cancer at like 50 yo. The fact that Shepard went to insane lengths and made it all the way to end but still failed makes it a little more hard hitting and shit, cause you know despite the journey, the result was still inevitable and Shepard's not god.
[QUOTE=Waluigi;35360246]I think it's dumb to judge an entire game based solely on its ending, but saying we do that, and the game is the worst game you've ever played because of that. So, what? Why are you so entitled to force Bioware to change the ending? What do they owe you?[/QUOTE]
Quite frankly, they owe us the ending that they advertised and we paid for. Nobody is -forcing- Bioware to change the ending, but a whole lot of people are certainly asking.
TEN HOURS of ambient sounds in the Normandy SR-2's drive core.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFkFNdKL0F8[/media]
Really relaxing.
[QUOTE=Waluigi;35360008]I agree with them, games have bad endings all the time. Why are people so uptight and bitchy about this one?[/QUOTE]
Lookie here boys, we got ourselves one of dem ending lovurs. We know what to do with ending luvurs.
[QUOTE=Waluigi;35360246]I think it's dumb to judge an entire game based solely on its ending, but saying we do that, and the game is the worst game you've ever played because of that. So, what? Why are you so entitled to force Bioware to change the ending? What do they owe you?[/QUOTE]
My sixty dollars? I'm entitled to complain about the ending because I spent money on the game, and I paid the people who made it, so naturally I can give my opinion on the product. Nobody is 'forcing' them to change anything. I don't recall hearing about any fan who bust into the office and put a gun to their head and told them to change the ending, did you?
[editline]30th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=RunawayLove;35360256]Yea I can understand what you're saying son, but still someone could go through life winning constantly and then get hit with cancer at like 50 yo. The fact that Shepard went to insane lengths and made it all the way to end but still failed makes it a little more hard hitting and shit, cause you know despite the journey, the result was still inevitable and Shepard's not god.[/QUOTE]
Why are people acting like he failed and The Reapers won? Did you guys miss the ending where you're forced to do something that stops The Reapers no matter what, and you literally cannot fail?
[QUOTE=RunawayLove;35360256]Yea I can understand what you're saying son, but still someone could go through life winning constantly and then get hit with cancer at like 50 yo. The fact that Shepard went to insane lengths and made it all the way to end but still failed makes it a little more hard hitting and shit, cause you know despite the journey, the result was still inevitable and Shepard's not god.[/QUOTE]
I'd be okay if Shepard faced the inevitable [I]if[/I] it was an option.
Because people are obviously gonna be pissed off if they feel like they're going to win up until the last few minutes where everything falls apart. We've been told constantly throughout the trilogy that this was all about overcoming the inevitable, and when the inevitable happens in both what's been stated as the inevitable and ideas that go against alot of concepts and themes, regardless of what you've done, people are going to feel cheated.
[QUOTE=Waluigi;35360246]I think it's dumb to judge an entire game based solely on its ending, but saying we do that, and the game is the worst game you've ever played because of that. So, what? Why are you so entitled to force Bioware to change the ending? What do they owe you?[/QUOTE]
Its the best game I've ever played and the best game series I've ever played, but I still hate the ending completely. It's a love/hate relationship.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35360326]Why are people acting like he failed and The Reapers won? Did you guys miss the ending where you're forced to do something that stops The Reapers no matter what, and you literally cannot fail?[/QUOTE]
That assumes that stopping the Reapers is all there is to winning.
[sp]
Destroy: Commit genocide and betray an ally
Control: Sacrifice your principles and follow the Illusive Man's path. Subjugate an entire race.
Synthesis: Become Saren and remove all diversity from galactic life, which is specifically what we were trying to prevent.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35360326]
Why are people acting like he failed and The Reapers won? Did you guys miss the ending where you're forced to do something that stops The Reapers no matter what, and you literally cannot fail?[/QUOTE]
I'd say Shepard getting indoctrinated is the Reapers winning yo.
only now after replaying me2 and 3 do i realise how awesome to have a laugh action which you can press at any time during any conversation
I'd have been fine if the ending I saw was MY ending. It isn't really the ending in particular that's bad because I would have felt that my actions created that consequence.
What I DON'T like is how all the endings were 99% the same. I feel no sense of control and felt that throughout the whole game with only two dialog options,
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