[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35407807]Working for Cerberus, I'd imagine.[/QUOTE]
Except he was dead and he went to the Council and they basically said "do what you want, we don't care" and they actually re-instated his Specter status, allowing him to do what he wants.
Why would he suddenly be grounded and have his ship and rank and Specter status revoked for doing what he already told them he was doing? Especially if he destroyed the Collector Base, that prevents Cerberus from using it.
There's really no reason for Shepard to be in jail, especially for as long as the gap is between games, if all he did was work with Cerberus, who were assisting the Alliance at the time anyways.
Just found my old Game Informer from last year.
[quote]
“In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to victory is less clear at the outset. You won’t just find some long-lost Reaper “off” button; says Hudson”
“Don’t expect to win the loyalty of the galaxy by simply completing a series of fetch quests,”
“When the teaser for Mass Effect 3 first released, rumours were swirling that the project was actually a multiplayer title set in the Mass Effect universe. Those rumours turned out to be false, but it got many gamers thinking about how a multiplayer component would fit into the Mass Effect trilogy.
Rest assured, the team has thought about this, too. “As a single-player experience, and just as a world that people want to immerse themselves in and share, we’ve been trying to think of a way that makes sense for people to experience Mass Effect with their friends,” says executive producer Casey Hudson. “We haven’t yet come up with a way to do that, so we don’t have anything to announce at this time. But, obviously, multiplayer is something we want to do more of in the future as a company.”
“… part of what you’re trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That’s part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn’t it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense.” [/quote]
Those are all Casey Hudson. Liar liar motherfucking pants on fire.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35407807]Working for Cerberus, I'd imagine.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't spectre status essentially make him above the law?
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35408216]Except he was dead and he went to the Council and they basically said "do what you want, we don't care" and they actually re-instated his Specter status, allowing him to do what he wants.
Why would he suddenly be grounded and have his ship and rank and Specter status revoked for doing what he already told them he was doing? Especially if he destroyed the Collector Base, that prevents Cerberus from using it.
There's really no reason for Shepard to be in jail, especially for as long as the gap is between games, if all he did was work with Cerberus, who were assisting the Alliance at the time anyways.[/QUOTE]
The council is not the Alliance.
Imagine if you were working for the UN, and they said you can go rape a village if you want. When you return to your country's military, don't be surprised if they might hold a grudge against you for all that raping you did.
[QUOTE=Ridge;35408261]The council is not the Alliance.
Imagine if you were working for the UN, and they said you can go rape a village if you want. When you return to your country's military, don't be surprised if they might hold a grudge against you for all that raping you did.[/QUOTE]
i love this analogy
So something kind of awesome happened. All the special effects started going missing. No explosions or holograms.
[img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541797441636381260/0DBF29B20F59F3A479F0B0CE3758B0DA8CC7AC06/[/img]
Also, grabbing ass:
[img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541797441636382353/3C387FA752A0938F210C853EE4A5798AE5B6B351/[/img]
[QUOTE=usaokay;35408286]UMMMMMMM[/QUOTE]
“In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to victory is less clear at the outset. You won’t just find some long-lost Reaper “off” button; says Hudson”
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
A lot of people are finding their old GameInformers today.
[QUOTE=Ridge;35408261]The council is not the Alliance.
Imagine if you were working for the UN, and they said you can go rape a village if you want. When you return to your country's military, don't be surprised if they might hold a grudge against you for all that raping you did.[/QUOTE]
Except Specter Status means you no longer answer to The Alliance, so if they said "Sit in space jail for two years and we're also going to take away your ship and dissect it." you'd just say "No thanks." and they couldn't do anything about it. If they sent armed forces after you, that'd be tantamount to declaring war on The Citadel and it's collective races.
Your metaphor is the other way around. In real life, the UN holds pretty much no power, so if your military gave you the order to kill innocents or something and the UN was mad at you, you'd basically just say 'Tough luck.' and they couldn't do shit about it.
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35406622]Can't you technically sue them for that? It's all false advertising. None of what they said is true.[/QUOTE]
Class action sure? Are you gonna have enough money to handle EA 11ty million appeals?
No.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35408347]Except Specter Status means you no longer answer to The Alliance, so if they said "Sit in space jail for two years and we're also going to take away your ship and dissect it." you'd just say "No thanks." and they couldn't do anything about it. If they sent armed forces after you, that'd be tantamount to declaring war on The Citadel and it's collective races.
Your metaphor is the other way around. In real life, the UN holds pretty much no power, so if your military gave you the order to kill innocents or something and the UN was mad at you, you'd basically just say 'Tough luck.' and they couldn't do shit about it.[/QUOTE]
shepard surrendered to the alliance willingly
and Udina's position on the council gives him the authority to denounce spectres
[QUOTE=Lankist;35408320]“In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to victory is less clear at the outset. You won’t just find some long-lost Reaper “off” button; says Hudson”
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU[/QUOTE]
To be fair, there's also a "reapers plz go" button.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;35408510]shepard surrendered to the alliance willingly
and Udina's position on the council gives him the authority to denounce spectres[/QUOTE]
Er, also there's the possibility that you declined reinstatement to the Spectres in ME2. There are many choices that would have affected that scene. It really just comes down to how much effort Bioware wanted to put in/timetables/memory.
I personally would have liked the intro to dwell a bit more on Earth before it got blown up.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;35408536]To be fair, there's also a "reapers plz go" button.[/QUOTE]
leaked mass effect 3 ending DLC footage:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-49jLLa3N4[/media]
[QUOTE=Kommodore;35408544]Er, also there's the possibility that you declined reinstatement to the Spectres in ME2. It really depends on your many choices. It really just comes down to how much effort Bioware wanted to put in/timetables/memory.
I personally would have liked the intro to dwell a bit more on Earth before it got blown up.[/QUOTE]
Yep. It may be odd, but I feel like other little things bothered me more than the ending did. Like other choices that basically meant nothing, like how you treated the heretics, what you chose to do with the collector base, if you saved the Rachnii or not, Whether Anderson or Udina was put in the council etc etc. Those choices always felt like big moral choices that you were sure were going to have major consequences later on, but it turns out they didn't. Geth serve the reapers no matter what. Rachnii serve the reapers no matter what. Cerberus is the same with or without the base. Anderson is on Earth at the beginning not serving on the council and you don't get a very good explanation on that one. I feel like there were more I've thought of too... oh well.
[QUOTE=stupid07er;35408615]Yep. It may be odd, but I feel like other little things bothered me more than the ending did. Like other choices that basically meant nothing, like how you treated the heretics, what you chose to do with the collector base, if you saved the Rachnii or not, Whether Anderson or Udina was put in the council etc etc. Those choices always felt like big moral choices that you were sure were going to have major consequences later on, but it turns out they didn't. Geth serve the reapers no matter what. Rachnii serve the reapers no matter what. Cerberus is the same with or without the base. Anderson is on Earth at the beginning not serving on the council and you don't get a very good explanation on that one. I feel like there were more I've thought of too... oh well.[/QUOTE]
Don't complain people will call you a meanie face.
So where's our packs. Victory and Commendation.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;35408510]shepard surrendered to the alliance willingly
and Udina's position on the council gives him the authority to denounce spectres[/QUOTE]
How? I didn't play Arrival, and I spoke to both Anderson and Udina regarding my working with Cerberus and Specter Status, and both of them were a little wary, but they were okay with it. Why would Udina have your Specter Status removed if he was working with Cerberus too? If anything, both The Illusive Man and Udina would want you on their side.
It was just Bioware being lazy, and having an ending that pretty much depends entirely on you buying their DLC. If you didn't, tough luck.
[editline]3rd April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;35408809]So where's our packs. Victory and Commendation.[/QUOTE]
We get them today at 5 PM Pacific Time.
[editline]3rd April 2012[/editline]
Or by Wednesday. It's a little hazy.
Got up to Virmire in Mass Effect 1. The game's shorter than I remember, maybe I got more bogged down in side quests back then.
the stupid thing is it's easy enough to make those consequences feel like they did something without having any actual changes. anderson stays on the council but goes to earth due to the belief that shepard is a very important issue and makes it council business leaving a stand-in on the citadel. he would probably leave earth then and your first business of getting him back to the citadel is an acomplishment.
a lot of other things would probably go the same but it would make you feel like choosing anderson gave you a valuable ally while unfortunately hampering humanities efforts on the council. easy as fuck, yet they chose to render your choice obselete.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;35408809]So where's our packs. Victory and Commendation.[/QUOTE]
By wednesday.
Anyone got a decent name for a krogan soldier and asari vanguard?
I was thinking Thardarog for the krogan and Athiva L'Norik for the asari. Not sure.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;35408510]shepard surrendered to the alliance willingly
and Udina's position on the council gives him the authority to denounce spectres[/QUOTE]
If you're reinstated as a Spectre in 2 you can head right into the Spectre offices in 3, if you turned it down you need to wait until your Spectre status is reinstated, I doubt he denounced you. Plus you're the first Human Spectre, he's not going to do anything to make you look guilty, it wouldmake him look bad.
does someone want me to write a long and boring thesis on why you all should have seen the ending coming because of numerous glaring and obvious holes in Bioware's understanding of RPG storytelling that they've been begun demonstrating ever since the release of mass effect 2
should i also explain how DA2 should have been a massive warning sign and if everyone had displayed their current shock and horror at it and it's completely neutered player interaction then we might not be here right now
i mean it wouldn't matter but it would distract me from the fact that mass effect has been ruined
[QUOTE=Ghost101;35408830]Got up to Virmire in Mass Effect 1. The game's shorter than I remember, maybe I got more bogged down in side quests back then.[/QUOTE]
Alot shorter. I blew through it in like 20 hours.
Mass Effect 2 is really bogging me down. Trying to get through it as quick as possible while still doing everything. I tried to finish it tonight but got way too tired. I'm 26 hours in and am only at the Reaper IFF. So on my way to Legion and his loyalty mission, Collector Base, Overlord, and Arrival DLC and I'll finally be at peace.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35409036]does someone want me to write a long and boring thesis on why you all should have seen the ending coming because of numerous glaring and obvious holes in Bioware's understanding of RPG storytelling that they've been begun demonstrating ever since the release of mass effect 2
should i also explain how DA2 should have been a massive warning sign and if everyone had displayed their current shock and horror at it and it's completely neutered player interaction then we might not be here right now
i mean it wouldn't matter but it would distract me from the fact that mass effect has been ruined[/QUOTE]
Both have already been done, rather extensively.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35409036]does someone want me to write a long and boring thesis on why you all should have seen the ending coming because of numerous glaring and obvious holes in Bioware's understanding of RPG storytelling that they've been begun demonstrating ever since the release of mass effect 2
should i also explain how DA2 should have been a massive warning sign and if everyone had displayed their current shock and horror at it and it's completely neutered player interaction then we might not be here right now
i mean it wouldn't matter but it would distract me from the fact that mass effect has been ruined[/QUOTE]
"A company made a bad game, and one of their other games had some flaws, so the final game in the Mass Effect trilogy is going to have a shit ending!!!!!"
I was wary, after Dragon Age 2, but I didn't figure they'd fuck it up as bad as they did, since even DA2 had some redeeming qualities, as opposed to Mass Effect 3's ending being pretty much shitty in every single way.
But hey man I mean if you can tell the future why don't you tell me the winning lottery numbers instead of lecturing us on how we should have bitched more about Dragon Age 2.
[editline]3rd April 2012[/editline]
Besides people bitched a ton about Dragon Age 2, and it was made known to Bioware that it was a shitty game, so I fail to see how much more fan backlash there could have been over it.
iunno devil may cry 2 was atrocious but dmc3 is considered the best in the series
one bad game doesn't mean bad games forever
[editline]3rd April 2012[/editline]
wait dragonage is a totally different series
scorpio your post makes even less sense
[QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;35409211]iunno devil may cry 2 was atrocious but dmc3 is considered the best in the series
one bad game doesn't mean bad games forever[/QUOTE]
That too. I mean, I wasn't crazy about Left 4 Dead, but it didn't make me suddenly denounce Valve. I also really hated the addition of Hats and the ability to buy shit with real money in Team Fortress 2, but again, it didn't lead to me denouncing Valve.
Making one mistake shouldn't lead to you predicting that everything after that mistake is going to be shit. That's a really closed-minded approach.
i think if bioware somehow fuck up the ending dlc and make another shitty dragonage game you can officially denounce them
[editline]3rd April 2012[/editline]
i've always found dragonage mad boring anyway, same with any other series by bioware sans mass effect
not sure why i like mass effect
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