Mass Effect Megathread: DING DONG BANNU edition - Games

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35429701]but i thought the explosion was caused by interrupting their quantum isn't that like saying you can safely split an atom by wringing the energy out of it beforehand?[/QUOTE] I agree. I say the Relays generated mass effect fields around themselves just before the explosion, absorbing most of the blast.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35429677]It's like focusing the explosion of a gunshot into the barrel to propel a bullet[/QUOTE] so you're saying that the supernova explosions were propelling the space magic so now the space magic and the supernova are two different things? jesus fucking christ this is getting confusing this is worse than the nexus from star trek generations

[QUOTE=MiX-A;35429634]-snip-[/QUOTE] If someone could get these in the right size for the box the game comes in, I'd replace the covers in a snap.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35429732]so you're saying that the supernova explosions were propelling the space magic so now the space magic and the supernova are two different things? jesus fucking christ this is getting confusing this is worse than the nexus from star trek generations[/QUOTE] Who says it resulted in a supernova? The mass relays contain enough energy to cause one, but it doesn't mean it's in "explosion-form". You're making it too complicated.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35429732]so you're saying that the supernova explosions were propelling the space magic so now the space magic and the supernova are two different things? jesus fucking christ this is getting confusing this is worse than the nexus from star trek generations[/QUOTE] I think we can sum it up as such: Either 1) Relays all went supernova, resulting in mass death. 2) Relays did not go supernova and instead self-destructed in a contained blast thanks to either a newly added and unexplained aspect of Relay technology, or blatant disregard of established lore. None of these options are good ones.

EDI's original model looked so much better. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fDd34.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35429756]Who says it resulted in a supernova? The mass relays contain enough energy to cause one, but it doesn't mean it's in "explosion-form". You're making it too complicated.[/QUOTE] The Arrival DLC and codex were EXTREMELY specific in saying that the destruction of a relay results in a supernova-sized explosion of the contained energy. A "self-destruct" feature or any other method of safely containing that energy was never mentioned.

Who the fuck cares. Are any of you from the Mass Effect universe? No? Then shut up.

Also, encountered that stupid bug where you purchase a pack and then it charges you and doesn't give you your stuff. Wankers

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35429756]Who says it resulted in a supernova? The mass relays contain enough energy to cause one, but it doesn't mean it's in "explosion-form". You're making it too complicated.[/QUOTE] the fuckin game says that It says when you destroy a mass relay you interrupt it's quantum which causes the mass effect quantum to quantum a quark resulting in tachyons that make a supernova basically if you get rid of the spinny things then it makes a supernova im not making this complicated, i'm making this simple. occam's razor dictates that those relays all went nova and you fucking destroyed everything. the only way to think otherwise is to assume otherwise, because we aren't given any information to indicate that anything else could happen.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35429766]I think we can sum it up as such: Either 1) Relays all went supernova, resulting in mass death. 2) Relays did not go supernova and instead self-destructed in a contained blast thanks to either a newly added and unexplained aspect of Relay technology, or blatant disregard of established lore. None of these options are good ones.[/QUOTE] The core is already destroyed by the time they blow up. Effectively, it would just be a very large construct in space that, while it used to hold a lot of energy, is now basically just a very large building. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35429817]basically if you get rid of the spinny things then it makes a supernova[/QUOTE] Well space-magice makes that not happen. How? I don't know, but it freaking doesn't or else that planet they land on would likely not exist.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35429701]but i thought the explosion was caused by interrupting their quantum isn't that like saying you can safely split an atom by wringing the energy out of it beforehand?[/QUOTE] Don't think so, in short I'd guess the space magic beam surges out all the energy so the reactor-reaction dies out relatively harmlessly.

[QUOTE=Errorproxy;35429787]Who the fuck cares. Are any of you from the Mass Effect universe? No? Then shut up.[/QUOTE] if a story is internally inconsistent then why the fuck should i care about anything that happens if at any moment the writers can just suspend the laws of physics they've established and make anything happen then how is there any tension in anything that happens at all

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35429756]Who says it resulted in a supernova? The mass relays contain enough energy to cause one, but it doesn't mean it's in "explosion-form". You're making it too complicated.[/QUOTE] Don't you watch sci-fi? When you have something that spins and then stop it spinning it ALWAYS explodes. It's SCIENCE!

[QUOTE=Cone;35429823]The core is already destroyed by the time they blow up. Effectively, it would just be a very large construct in space that, while it used to hold a lot of energy, is now basically just a very large building. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] Well space-magice makes that not happen. How? I don't know, but it freaking doesn't or else that planet they land on would likely not exist.[/QUOTE] except they got out of the relay mid transit so they're probably millions of space miles away from any of the now asploded relays

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35429886]except they got out of the relay mid transit so they're probably millions of space miles away from any of the now asploded relays[/QUOTE] Where does it say they got out mid-transit? As well as that, if it causes a supernova, how in the fuck do we see Shepard in the rubble?

[QUOTE=Cone;35429823]The core is already destroyed by the time they blow up. Effectively, it would just be a very large construct in space that, while it used to hold a lot of energy, is now basically just a very large building.[/QUOTE] But we do. not. know. that. It was never explained ANYWHERE that the relays can be destroyed without releasing a massive, destructive wave of energy. Any assumptions to the contrary are pure speculation.

[QUOTE=Cone;35429912]Where does it say they got out mid-transit? As well as that, if it causes a supernova, how in the fuck do we see Shepard in the rubble?[/QUOTE] Plot holes. Plot holes everywhere.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;35428959]I don't expect them to do anything, but if they don't change the ending, or they charge for a new one I wont buy anything from them again.[/QUOTE] Same here, as I mentioned many times. I'm voting against their behaviour in the only way I really can; voting with my wallet. If there were more like us, then the next BioWare product is gonna be a flop. And when it flops, we should all email them with reasons why it failed, and hopefully they'll learn their lesson.

[QUOTE=Cone;35429912]Where does it say they got out mid-transit? As well as that, if it causes a supernova, how in the fuck do we see Shepard in the rubble?[/QUOTE] because they got like, flung out of the beam thing when the space magic hit them i guess i dont know that whole scene is so nonsensical i can't even begin to describe what was going on and how do we see shepard in the rubble if THE CITADEL FUCKING EXPLODED I'd think that would be a more pertinent issue

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35429935]But we do. not. know. that. It was never explained ANYWHERE that the relays can be destroyed without releasing a massive, destructive wave of energy.[/QUOTE] Nor was it explained anywhere that space magic existed. Which, apparently, it does. Any assumptions as to what it does exactly are equally valid. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35429970]because they got like, flung out of the beam thing when the space magic hit them i guess i dont know that whole scene is so nonsensical i can't even begin to describe what was going on and how do we see shepard in the rubble if THE CITADEL FUCKING EXPLODED I'd think that would be a more pertinent issue[/QUOTE] Well it would still contradict the supernova, even if it makes little to no sense.

I must say: N7 Crusader Shotgun is great. I prefer ARs, but, this shotgun and krogan soldier = devastating power.

It's science [b]fiction[/b] for a reason. Even still we wouldn't be able to explain how things operate because only Bioware can explain it. After all it is their universe.

[QUOTE=Cone;35429990]Nor was it explained anywhere that space magic existed. Which, apparently, it does. Any assumptions as to what it does exactly are equally valid. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] Well it would still contradict the supernova, even if it makes little to no sense.[/QUOTE] but it contradicts very firmly established events, who cares what else it contradicts it obviously couldn't have taken place in the ME world as described to us, so who cares what it says about the ME world?

[QUOTE=Cone;35429990]Nor was it explained anywhere that space magic existed. Which, apparently, it does. Any assumptions as to what it does exactly are equally valid.[/QUOTE] This would hold true if we didn't already have precedent for what happens when a relay is destroyed. Our only example of a relay detonation resulted in the entire system being wiped out. This means that, based on established lore, every single mass relay in the galaxy wipes out the system it's in. Is it possible that the relays simply self-destructed? Absolutely. But there is absolutely nothing to back it up based on what we [B]know[/B]. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Errorproxy;35430021]Even still we wouldn't be able to explain how things operate because only Bioware can explain it. After all it is their universe.[/QUOTE] They can't hide behind "It's our universe" when they blatantly contradict what they've already established.

[QUOTE=MiX-A;35429785]EDI's original model looked so much better. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fDd34.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Now replace Legion with Crow.

[QUOTE=Errorproxy;35430021]It's science [b]fiction[/b] for a reason. Even still we wouldn't be able to explain how things operate because only Bioware can explain it. After all it is their universe.[/QUOTE] luckily they did explain how things operate in the codex and now apparently they don't operate like that anymore because space magic

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35430049]but it contradicts very firmly established events, who cares what else it contradicts it obviously couldn't have taken place in the ME world as described to us, so who cares what it says about the ME world?[/QUOTE] Look, no matter what, the explanation is space magic. How does this happen in the ME universe? Space magic! Why is everyone still alive? Space magic! It's retarded and so immensely dumb I can barely even begin to describe it, but, like it or not, that is what happens. Why? [I][B]Space magic.[/B][/I]

[QUOTE=Cone;35430107]Look, no matter what, the explanation is space magic. How does this happen in the ME universe? Space magic! Why is everyone still alive? Space magic! It's retarded and so immensely dumb I can barely even begin to describe it, but, like it or not, that is what happens. Why? [I][B]Space magic.[/B][/I][/QUOTE] okay look, i would be perfectly willing to accept that if at the end it was established that everyone [I]wasn't[/I] dead however that isn't established. it's only established that everything and everyone everywhere is fucked. So that excuse doesn't fly with me.

[QUOTE=MiX-A;35424740][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ME0jx.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] John and Sylv need a standing ovation for the Consensus and the Silent Monastery. Also the Tuchanka writers need a raise. Mac Walters needs to go back to writing dialog.