Look, even assuming not everyone is killed right away, a lot of systems require importing goods. Tuchanka would be fucked since they can't even grow food. Plus all the people stuck on worlds half way across the galaxy from their home. Also, what even happened to the ton of people on the Citadel? Were they all just killed or what?
[QUOTE=shatteredwindow;35430214]Look, even assuming not everyone is killed right away, a lot of systems require importing goods. Tuchanka would be fucked since they can't even grow food. Plus all the people stuck on worlds half way across the galaxy from their home. Also, what even happened to the ton of people on the Citadel? Were they all just killed or what?[/QUOTE]
I think one of the Bioware writers confirmed (on twitter) that everyone on the Citadel died.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35425919]Look at the positioning of the eyes? It's definitely Harbinger.
But it's pretty stupid Bioware apparently retconned the whole "every Reaper looks different" thing. Even if the walkers and destroyers were all the same model, at least the sovereign-class ships should all be unique as seen in the ME2 ending.[/QUOTE]
EDI Liara and Hackett all tell you the Capital Reapers are unique in internal design and configuration.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35430063]luckily they did explain how things operate in the codex
and now apparently they don't operate like that anymore because space magic[/QUOTE]
Well then ask them. Whatever they say is true in their universe.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;35430252]Well then ask them. Whatever they say is true in their universe.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't excuse bad writing though. One of the most important aspects of world-building and a strong narrative is to be absolutely steadfast about adhering to the "rules" that you come up with. It is extremely difficult to pull off a twist that changes the rules, and it's a writing sin to break your own rules without explaining it.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;35430252]Well then ask them. Whatever they say is true in their universe.[/QUOTE]
they already told us
why would we ask them when they already told us
[QUOTE=Framperton;35426716]I don't know, maybe the glowing eyes signify a command unit or something, and there are other Harbinger class reapers attacking the planets of the other major races.
Actually, which one is bigger Sovereign or Harbinger? I thought Harbinger was a shrimper reaper than Sovereign[/QUOTE]
its harbringer because in the story it's meant to be fucking harbinger!
[editline]4th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35430144]okay look, i would be perfectly willing to accept that if at the end it was established that everyone [I]wasn't[/I] dead
however that isn't established. it's only established that everything and everyone everywhere is fucked. So that excuse doesn't fly with me.[/QUOTE]
solutions : space magic blast has resonant frequency, amount of eezo in mass relays matches with space magic resonant frequency, amount of eezo in reapers matches space magic frequency
[QUOTE=Cone;35430107]Look, no matter what, the explanation is space magic. How does this happen in the ME universe? Space magic! Why is everyone still alive? Space magic!
It's retarded and so immensely dumb I can barely even begin to describe it, but, like it or not, that is what happens. Why?
[I][B]Space magic.[/B][/I][/QUOTE]
How did the Reapers get the Citadel to Earth?
Space magic.
How did the Illusive Man gain control of Shepard's and Anderson's motor functions?
Space magic.
How did your party memebers end up back on the Normandy for the ending?
Space magic.
you know it would have made more sense if the drell got sentinel instead of vanguard and the krogan got vanguard instead of sentinel. I don't know why bioware decided not to do that.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;35426123]They underwent a conversion from organic to synthetic. When nothing but the base code of intelligence even resembles organics, they are now synthetic. They also rebelled against other organics in the galaxy, true for against their masters due to the Prothean imperialist attitude but also more in line with his ideas about organics and synthetics never being able to gain peace rather than any creator-created nonsense.Organics and Synthetics don't mix, even this cycle hated them with restrictions on extensive cybernetics and AI projects, even benign ones.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the reason they rebelled is the attitude that was present. The protheans were asses to everyone and their cycle paid the price for it.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;35430465]you know it would have made more sense if the drell got sentinel instead of vanguard and the krogan got vanguard instead of sentinel. I don't know why bioware decided not to do that.[/QUOTE]
Most Krogan probably aren't biotic.
[QUOTE=bucketofshrimp;35428014]i just beat mass effect 2, now I have a hatred for Miranda. She's a confident bitch and a wanna be hero. It's her fault that Jack and Jacob died on me. I really liked Jack and Jacob, but nooooooo after Jacks loyalty mission they get into a freaken fight and I didn't have enough paragon to settle it neutrally so I scolded Jack. And at the last mission where a biotic has to hold up a barrier Miranda has to butt in and say she can do a better job than Samara. I was gonna choose Samara to hold up the barrier but I couldn't choose her IDK why, And that's when Jacob dies he holds off the seeker swarms cause Miranda failed to do as she claimed. I know alot of people already stated they're hate for her but now I know why they feel that way.[/QUOTE]
nope it's your fault
[QUOTE=EXoDUSFLT;35430554]Most Krogan probably aren't biotic.[/QUOTE]
Neither are Turians and they get Sentinels.
Wrex is a biotic.
I love entering a lobby and not noticing there is a drell adept on the squad.
PAFPFSPFSPASPZZSAZAZPZPSAPSPZAPSFSSSSHGZAZPZAPAZPAZPAZPSSSSSHH.
[QUOTE=27X;35430493]Yeah, but the reason they rebelled is the attitude that was present. The protheans were asses to everyone and their cycle paid the price for it.[/QUOTE]
but they weren't, were they? they were just being imperialistic (if you think that is bad you are wrong sorry), and they were uniting organics, they only lost because they all basically had the same strategy for each battle and once they reapers learned how to counter it they defeated them
personally i think that reapers were some sort of synthetic/cybernetic race that managed to win the war against pure organics and are trying to stop that from happening again (we are your salvation!)
[editline]4th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=GetBent;35430583]Neither are Turians and they get Sentinels.
Wrex is a biotic.[/QUOTE]
well in most games you dont play the boring old average foot soilder you play the exceptional, the great, the rare etc
[QUOTE=Eltro102;35430614]
well in most games you dont play the boring old average foot soilder you play the exceptional, the great, the rare etc[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and a Krogan vanguard would be rare/great.
I guess they just didn't want to give a Krogan biotic charge.
[QUOTE=jiggu;35426745]Sadly that's the way it seems, they don't really have any way to counter anything except the crappiest enemies there are. Too bad since Drell looks so badass.[/QUOTE]
Krogan anything is the worst by far above bronze.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35430222]I think one of the Bioware writers confirmed (on twitter) that everyone on the Citadel died.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was stated that some people managed to get off in time.
[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;35430728]I thought it was stated that some people managed to get off in time.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I remember reading that too.
[QUOTE=Eltro102;35430614]but they weren't, were they? they were just being imperialistic (if you think that is bad you are wrong sorry), and they were uniting organics, they only lost because they all basically had the same strategy for each battle and once they reapers learned how to counter it they defeated them
personally i think that reapers were some sort of synthetic/cybernetic race that managed to win the war against pure organics and are trying to stop that from happening again (we are your salvation!)
[editline]4th April 2012[/editline]
well in most games you dont play the boring old average foot soilder you play the exceptional, the great, the rare etc[/QUOTE]
No, they were. And what reapers were is puppets. Have you not finished the game?
[editline]4th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;35430728]I thought it was stated that some people managed to get off in time.[/QUOTE]
"a few"
Huh, just realized that not [I]every[/I] AI in Mass Effect has been benign like some people claim. I did the Citadel sidequest with the tampered Quasar machine, turns out an AI created by another very simple AI (???) hated organics and tried to steal profits from the gambling machine so it could buy a spaceship, fly to Geth space and join the party.
It's small gems like this that are only found in sidequests that made old Bioware awesome.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35430986]Huh, just realized that not [I]every[/I] AI in Mass Effect has been benign like some people claim. I did the Citadel sidequest with the tampered Quasar machine, turns out an AI created by another very simple AI (???) hated organics and tried to steal profits from the gambling machine so it could buy a spaceship, fly to Geth space and join the party.
It's small gems like this that are only found in sidequests that made old Bioware awesome.[/QUOTE]
That mission was so weird it was funny.
Anyone get their commendation packs yet? Still waiting on mine.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35430222]I think one of the Bioware writers confirmed (on twitter) that everyone on the Citadel died.[/QUOTE]
Really? Just like that?
Obviously they would have died in the big big explosion, but what about before? When you are talking to the IM, you can see lights and things moving in the other districts though.
WELL I GUESS ITS A GOOD THING I DID ALL THAT STUPID SHIT FOR PEOPLE ON THE CITADEL TO BE BETTER PREPARED FOR NOTHING.
[QUOTE=EXoDUSFLT;35431043]That mission was so weird it was funny.[/QUOTE]
He tells you he's going to self-destruct, but it said instead it was siphoning your credits? What [I]does[/I] happen if you fail to de-activate it in time?
[QUOTE=Skyward;35431046]Anyone get their commendation packs yet? Still waiting on mine.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Got it yesterday.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35430986]Huh, just realized that not [I]every[/I] AI in Mass Effect has been benign like some people claim. I did the Citadel sidequest with the tampered Quasar machine, turns out an AI created by another very simple AI (???) hated organics and tried to steal profits from the gambling machine so it could buy a spaceship, fly to Geth space and join the party.
It's small gems like this that are only found in sidequests that made old Bioware awesome.[/QUOTE]
It wanted to join the Geth, not to kill anyone or go on a rampage. It even says the only reason it self destructs is because it wants the person who took away it's chance at freedom to die too.
Sure it hated organics but all it wanted to do was leave.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;35430986]Huh, just realized that not [I]every[/I] AI in Mass Effect has been benign like some people claim. I did the Citadel sidequest with the tampered Quasar machine, turns out an AI created by another very simple AI (???) hated organics and tried to steal profits from the gambling machine so it could buy a spaceship, fly to Geth space and join the party.
It's small gems like this that are only found in sidequests that made old Bioware awesome.[/QUOTE]
Yeah you're right.
A thief made an AI, then that AI made another AI. The second AI got the original creator thrown in Turian prison.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35431079]He tells you he's going to self-destruct, but it said instead it was siphoning your credits? What [I]does[/I] happen if you fail to de-activate it in time?[/QUOTE]
Critical Mission Failure.
