[QUOTE=Aperture fan;35563056]I find it really weird how the Normandy looks like it's still in the middle of the retrofit the Alliance was giving it but isn't getting any further along. It still has random boxes and those rubber mat things and shit everywhere like it's still being worked on. Kind of annoying.[/QUOTE]
well they don't have time to clean that shit up man
i mean they can barely keep the scanny thing guarded as it is
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35563019]yeah, iran probably wouldn't attack the US
Because if they did they would be immediately annihilated by the combined forces of NATO, because while the US was busy making connections Iran was busy digging it's own grave
Not to mention, like I said, why would the Batarians be appeased by a house arrest? They're fucking crazy.[/quote]
For one, you thinking Iran would be immediately annihilated by NATO is laughable, just like saying the Alliance immediately annihilating the Batarians is laughable. Both nations are incredibly powerful and could possibly hold out for months, while causing significant casualties to the attackers. The Batarians know how to fight dirty, and they would take as many Alliance lives as they could.
[quote]and wrex would help because he's a fucking bro, you non believing unbro. bros help out when help is needed. that's the bro code.[/QUOTE]
It's also bro-code not to ask help from a bro who isn't in a position to help. Wrex wasn't having an easy time maintaining cohesion within the Krogan Clans. Trying to form an army to assist the Alliance could have ended any cohesion. It would have been unfair of Shepard to ask Wrex compromise his race for the sake of being a bro. That's totally un-brolike.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35563077]well they don't have time to clean that shit up man
i mean they can barely keep the scanny thing guarded as it is[/QUOTE]
Really? Down in the Crew Quarters, there is a guy walking a circle around the elevator. And doing nothing else. I'm sure he's real busy with important, galaxy-at-stake things. Is it so much to ask to be able to return from a long mission to a nice, clean ship?
[QUOTE=Lankist;35562954][img]http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2fxxqVFMi1r436hfo6_1280.jpg[/img]
[img]http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2fxxqVFMi1r436hfo4_500.jpg[/img]
[url=http://skoolmunkee.tumblr.com/]i demand moooooooooooore[/url][/QUOTE]
I dun geddit.
Wat am I missin'?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35563081]For one, you thinking Iran would be immediately annihilated by NATO is laughable, just like saying the Alliance immediately annihilating the Batarians is laughable. Both nations are incredibly powerful and could possibly hold out for months, while causing significant casualties to the attackers. The Batarians know how to fight dirty, and they would take as many Alliance lives as they could.
It's also bro-code not to ask help from a bro who isn't in a position to help. Wrex wasn't having an easy time maintaining cohesion within the Krogan Clans. Trying to form an army to assist the Alliance could have ended any cohesion. It would have been unfair of Shepard to ask Wrex compromise his race for the sake of being a bro. That's totally un-brolike.[/QUOTE]
yeah, because they're complete crazy assholes. so again, why would they care if shepard was under house arrest? wouldn't they just be sending jihadists or whatever to kill him regardless?
who said anything about the alliance
unlike Threpard who thinks earth is the bestest most important planet ever, i think the efforts should have focused on protecting the citadel, the seat of galactic government and off button for the galaxy
just making sure that you have some sort of alliance worked out ahead of time instead of having to deal with it after the reapers have already hit would have saved tons of time and lives
instead we only bother talking to wrex after things have already gone to shit when we could have easily spent those 6 months working out a deal
[editline]14th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Aperture fan;35563109]Really? Down in the Crew Quarters, there is a guy walking a circle around the elevator. And doing nothing else. I'm sure he's real busy with important, galaxy-at-stake things. Is it so much to ask to be able to return from a long mission to a nice, clean ship?[/QUOTE]
he's busy guarding the elevator against geth infiltration
[QUOTE=MiX-A;35561876][IMG]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/101/e/5/family_by_sammi_chan71914-d4vrp9z.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/103/2/3/family_v2_by_sammi_chan71914-d4vzn6d.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
And [i]how[/i] did [i]this[/i] happen?
[QUOTE=Psyche;35563148]And [i]how[/i] did [i]this[i/] happen?[/QUOTE]
Mass effect fields.
[QUOTE=Psyche;35563148]And [i]how[/i] did [i]this[/i] happen?[/QUOTE]
Adopted.
[QUOTE=MiX-A;35561876][IMG]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/101/e/5/family_by_sammi_chan71914-d4vrp9z.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/103/2/3/family_v2_by_sammi_chan71914-d4vzn6d.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[I]Oh god the chaffing[/I]
Also the amount of brand recognition the Alliance special forces have is getting kind of ridiculous. Do they have their own department store?
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;35563117]I dun geddit.[/QUOTE]
thats just, like, your opinion, man
[QUOTE=Lankist;35563232]thats just, like, your opinion, man[/QUOTE]
Ah.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35563131]yeah, because they're complete crazy assholes. so again, why would they care if shepard was under house arrest? wouldn't they just be sending jihadists or whatever to kill him regardless?
who said anything about the alliance
unlike Threpard who thinks earth is the bestest most important planet ever, i think the efforts should have focused on protecting the citadel, the seat of galactic government and off button for the galaxy
just making sure that you have some sort of alliance worked out ahead of time instead of having to deal with it after the reapers have already hit would have saved tons of time and lives
instead we only bother talking to wrex after things have already gone to shit when we could have easily spent those 6 months working out a deal
[editline]14th April 2012[/editline]
he's busy guarding the elevator against geth infiltration[/QUOTE]
This argument is going to start getting circular, so no, I don't agree. There probably isn't much of a point debating it since I doubt we are going to change each other's minds. We both have a different perception regarding the political situation.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35563305]This argument is going to start getting circular, so no, I don't agree. There probably isn't much of a point debating it since I doubt we are going to change each other's minds. We both have a different perception regarding the political situation.[/QUOTE]
i just don't think that shepard was just leave his entire gathered crew behind, give himself in to the alliance, and then sit down for 6 months with his thumbs up his ass being vaguely annoyed
it feels like they wanted to find some reason to make shepard not do anything for a while so things could happen in the plot, but they couldn't come up with anything good so they just sort of mumbled something about being arrested and then immediately shifted focus off of the subject
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35563356]i just don't think that shepard was just leave his entire gathered crew behind, give himself in to the alliance, and then sit down for 6 months with his thumbs up his ass being vaguely annoyed
it feels like they wanted to find some reason to make shepard not do anything for a while so things could happen in the plot, but they couldn't come up with anything good so they just sort of mumbled something about being arrested and then immediately shifted focus off of the subject[/QUOTE]
I also have the tendency to overthink and justify some bad writing. My mind works like this:
<bad writing here>
"This is bad writing, how can I justify wasting time out of my life reading/seeing this bullshit?"
"I know! I'll overanalyze it and figure out how I can make this work out with a semblance of logic to it."
It certainly makes it easier for me to enjoy mediocre writing, but arguing that the writing isn't mediocre to begin with is a lot harder.
Also, as Grim Joker already knows, I don't care too much for the overall plot as long as the character development is good. As long as the plot seems cohesive, I can enjoy the characters.
Aww yeehhhhh, Geth infiltrator and Drell Vanguard in the same pack and I didn't have any of those two.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35562954][img]http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2fxxqVFMi1r436hfo6_1280.jpg[/img]
[img]http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2fxxqVFMi1r436hfo4_500.jpg[/img]
[url=http://skoolmunkee.tumblr.com/]i demand moooooooooooore[/url][/QUOTE]
well RIP tali I guess
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35563402]I also have the tendency to overthink and justify some bad writing. My mind works like this:
<bad writing here>
"This is bad writing, how can I justify wasting time out of my life reading/seeing this bullshit?"
"I know! I'll overanalyze it and figure out how I can make this work out with a semblance of logic to it."
It certainly makes it easier for me to enjoy mediocre writing, but arguing that the writing isn't mediocre to begin with is a lot harder.
Also, as Grim Joker already knows, I don't care too much for the overall plot as long as the character development is good. As long as the plot seems cohesive, I can enjoy the characters.[/QUOTE]
honestly, i can say with 100% certainty that if the ending was good i wouldn't be complaining about any of this
it was just so nonsensical in every way, every time i think about it i find some new horrible plot hole or logical inconsistency. then I think about the rest of the game with the same mindset, and what was a glazed over situation that really wasn't supposed to matter becomes a completely ridiculous mess
i mean why even have a number to attach to war assets if the ending doesn't tell you what that number does and a lot of the things that contribute numbers couldn't even possibly affect the end
and then there's the whole EDI moonbase thing. How exactly did an overpowered enemy AI system become self aware? Isn't that like a game engine becoming self aware? And why did Cerberus use it to make an AI when the first thing it did was try to kill everyone?
and then you get my point. It's like a sweater with a loose thread I can't stop pulling.
It would have been awesome if we could customize the multiplayer characters in the same way we can customize Shepard.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35563490]honestly, i can say with 100% certainty that if the ending was good i wouldn't be complaining about any of this
it was just so nonsensical in every way, every time i think about it i find some new horrible plot hole or logical inconsistency. then I think about the rest of the game with the same mindset, and what was a glazed over situation that really wasn't supposed to matter becomes a completely ridiculous mess
i mean why even have a number to attach to war assets if the ending doesn't tell you what that number does and a lot of the things that contribute numbers couldn't even possibly affect the end
and then there's the whole EDI moonbase thing. How exactly did an overpowered enemy AI system become self aware? Isn't that like a game engine becoming self aware? And why did Cerberus use it to make an AI when the first thing it did was try to kill everyone?
and then you get my point. It's like a sweater with a loose thread I can't stop pulling.[/QUOTE]
Yea, I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for most of the plot. However, I can see why the ending can ruin the entire story for some people. I wish I could edit out the entire part with the Catalyst and just see the cinematic with Anderson and Shepard talking, and all the Reapers being destroyed. That is a perfectly acceptable ending, and in fact is fairly satisfying. The first time I went through the ending, I was actually surprised by how decent it was(considering I heard so many bad things about it), then I see the Catalyst and I'm like "What the fuck is this shit?"
However, I try not to let the ending sour my experience with the game. I love Thane, I love Liara, I love Garrus, I love Wrex. Seeing their stories unfold is still satisfying enough for me to replay the series a few times.
[QUOTE=Conro101;35563480]well RIP tali I guess[/QUOTE]
nah fuck it dude
I was just thinking...
[b]Number of Asari councillors in my [i]Mass Effect[/i] series playthrough:[/b] 1
[b]Number of Salarian councillors in my [i]Mass Effect[/i] series playthrough:[/b] 1
[b]Number of Turian councillors in my [i]Mass Effect[/i] series playthrough:[/b] 1
[b]Number of Human councillors in my [i]Mass Effect[/i] series playthrough:[/b] 3
We err...we don't have a great track record with these things, do we?
In comparison to the other races, we're going through councillors like Whitesnake goes through drummers.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;35563675]I was just thinking...
[b]Number of Asari councillors in my [i]Mass Effect[/i] series playthrough:[/b] 1
[b]Number of Salarian councillors in my [i]Mass Effect[/i] series playthrough:[/b] 1
[b]Number of Turian councillors in my [i]Mass Effect[/i] series playthrough:[/b] 1
[b]Number of Human councillors in my [i]Mass Effect[/i] series playthrough:[/b] 3
We err...we don't have a great track record with these things, do we?
In comparison to the other races, we're going through councillors like Whitesnake goes through drummers.[/QUOTE]
Well, two if you pick Udina in ME1.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;35563698]Well, two if you pick Udina in ME1.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that if you didn't save the council AND picked Udina, every race goes through 2. But in a Paragon playthrough, humanity can look a bit...unstable.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;35563714]I'm pretty sure that if you didn't save the council AND picked Udina, every race goes through 2. But in a Paragon playthrough, humanity can look a bit...unstable.[/QUOTE]
yeah i mean if the species with the shortest lifespans in the entire galaxy is burning through representatives slower than you, you've got a fuckin problem
[QUOTE=Lankist;35563830]yeah i mean if the species with the shortest lifespans in the entire galaxy is burning through representatives slower than you, you've got a fuckin problem[/QUOTE]
Average Vorcha lifespan (without any Tricks being pulled) is around 20 years.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;35563698]Well, two if you pick Udina in ME1.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but who would even do that
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35563851]Yeah but who would even do that[/QUOTE]
I did. Udina is a better politician than Anderson. Anderson is a soldier, he is a guy who can fight a war, and can lead people to victory. Udina is a politician, he knows how to appease other politicians, how to make people get on his side as far as the issues go. Udina may be a sort of shitty person, but in ME1 & 2 he appeared to be an effective politician.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;35563851]Yeah but who would even do that[/QUOTE]
if you start with me2 hasnt it already picked udina for u, i remember talking to anderson and being like 'sorry i didn't pick you lol' having no idea what this conversation was about
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35563914]I did. Udina is a better politician than Anderson. Anderson is a soldier, he is a guy who can fight a war, and can lead people to victory. Udina is a politician, he knows how to appease other politicians, how to make people get on his side as far as the issues go. Udina may be a sort of shitty person, but in ME1 & 2 he appeared to be an effective politician.[/QUOTE]
effective in his ability to fuck you over you mean
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35563914]I did. Udina is a better politician than Anderson. Anderson is a soldier, he is a guy who can fight a war, and can lead people to victory. Udina is a politician, he knows how to appease other politicians, how to make people get on his side as far as the issues go. Udina may be a sort of shitty person, but in ME1 & 2 he appeared to be an effective politician.[/QUOTE]
He also [sp]turns on you in ME3.[/sp]
He can burn in hell.
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