[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;35626194]Hey guys. I'm not really a Mass Effect player myself, so I haven't monitored all of the 700+ pages of this thread, but I'm kinda interested in the lore discussions the ending sparked. That's why I wanted to know if there's a consensus in this thread on a certain question lifted from [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs"]this video[/url] (you've no doubt already seen): [sp]Does the Destroy option also kill people with biotic implants and more importantly the Quarians that, quote the codex, "are actually cybernetic creatures: a combination of organic and synthetic parts"? Also related to that if Synergy would eternally fuse Quarians with their suits and implants or completely rewrite their bodies without taking implants etc into mind?[/sp]
I know none of this is outright explained, which is why I'm just asking if there's a consensus out there or not, because my Google Fu is too weak to find it.
Forum search function turned up nothing usable and the last couple of pages seemed to go into err... other directions; so I'm sorry if you've already discussed this to death and I'm just too stupid to find the relevant posts.[/QUOTE]
according to architect von shotalolicon vas deus ex machina, ANYTHING synthetic gets blowed up, including quarians and anyone who underwent cyborg parts replacement, yet people still get off the ship
SPACKULATION FOR EVERONE TACTICAL WRITING GENIUS.
[QUOTE=Arvuti;35622459]not really safe for work
[url]http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/109/6/6/jack_by_ohoni-d4wtg9g.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;35626318]Jackald asked me to link this in the thread since he's still ding dong bannu until tomorrow
[video=youtube;zGprwpxwHM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGprwpxwHM4[/video][/QUOTE]
Sex saves the day.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;35626194]Hey guys. I'm not really a Mass Effect player myself, so I haven't monitored all of the 700+ pages of this thread, but I'm kinda interested in the lore discussions the ending sparked. That's why I wanted to know if there's a consensus in this thread on a certain question lifted from [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs"]this video[/url] (you've no doubt already seen): [sp]Does the Destroy option also kill people with biotic implants and more importantly the Quarians that, quote the codex, "are actually cybernetic creatures: a combination of organic and synthetic parts"? Also related to that if Synergy would eternally fuse Quarians with their suits and implants or completely rewrite their bodies without taking implants etc into mind?[/sp]
I know none of this is outright explained, which is why I'm just asking if there's a consensus out there or not, because my Google Fu is too weak to find it.
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While it seems to be accepted that BioWare fucked it up, and the Crucible was lying, I can see there being the argument made that the 'Shepard Lives' ending would also result in -all- synthetics remaining alive, due to the "crucible's design"/EMS.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;35622102]Seriously one of the most epic game cutscenes I've seen. Had goosebumps on my damn balls when Normandy jumped in and the music started to play.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLlAObjR-gs[/media][/QUOTE]
I just realized
joker says "30 seconds until we hit the relay"
the ship is called the Normandy
[video=youtube;piTTgwSR-K0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTTgwSR-K0[/video]
[editline]19th April 2012[/editline]
mind you this is in many games and movies, this was just the first one I thought of
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;35627869]While it seems to be accepted that BioWare fucked it up, and the Crucible was lying, I can see there being the argument made that the 'Shepard Lives' ending would also result in -all- synthetics remaining alive, due to the "crucible's design"/EMS.[/QUOTE]
The ending shows the Reapers being killed, unlike the Geth which aren't shown at all. I like to think that the Catalyst was just making shit up to try to get Shepard to choose another option.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;35628639]The ending shows the Reapers being killed, unlike the Geth which aren't shown at all. I like to think that the Catalyst was just making shit up to try to get Shepard to choose another option.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure that's what Bioware will fall back on as part of this extended cut.
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;35628775]I'm sure that's what Bioware will fall back on as part of this extended cut.[/QUOTE]
Worst case scenario: They do that and other companies suddenly realize they can finish their game with DLC and release an unfinished game that turns to shit at the end.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;35628813]Worst case scenario: They do that and other companies suddenly realize they can finish their game with DLC and release an unfinished game that turns to shit at the end.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think this is why people really shouldn't give Bioware kudos, regardless of how good the Extended Cut is. It's setting a bad example. I mean, if EA gets it in their head that they can release a game with a shitty ending and then release DLC months later that changes it, how many other games do you think they'll apply that to?
For that matter, what about when game companies like Activision get their hands on the idea? I mean, in my opinion they're generally less eager to fuck over the consumer, but still, it's not something we want game companies doing.
Not to mention other companies might not be willing to make the DLC free. Charging twice for a game is Bobby Kotick's wet dream.
Where the fuck is my Multiplayer DLC?
[QUOTE=dogmachines;35628888]Not to mention other companies might not be willing to make the DLC free. Charging twice for a game is Bobby Kotick's wet dream.[/QUOTE]
I could see them making it free, but inevitably one would test the waters of charging for it, whether it be charging five dollars, ten dollars, or fifteen dollars, and then from there it would be a clusterfuck.
[QUOTE=supertribute;35628916]Where the fuck is my Multiplayer DLC?[/QUOTE]
Click the i icon on the ME3 panel thing, then search for game addons.
Thanks man.
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GMOD and 1 layer in photoshop
[QUOTE=Arvuti;35626322][IMG]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/109/e/c/pixel_vagas_harvester_by_steeljoe-d4wvjlu.gif[/IMG]
aw yeah[/QUOTE]
okay god damn it cortez i told you not to give james any tequila
Thanks Origin for corrupting my install, maybe this was because I installed the dlc. But hope it works out.
I thought it was scary when he flies sober.
[QUOTE=Arvuti;35626322][IMG]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/109/e/c/pixel_vagas_harvester_by_steeljoe-d4wvjlu.gif[/IMG]
aw yeah[/QUOTE]
No James.
We're still not going to be friends.
you know what pisses me off? they never brought back the best character from ME2
the chef
Seriously I heard more about the crew being thankful for the improved quality of his cooking than the collectors.
the sheer morale impact from his cooking would be worth like, 10,000 ending points
[QUOTE=Egevened;35628363]I just realized
joker says "30 seconds until we hit the relay"
the ship is called the Normandy
[video=youtube;piTTgwSR-K0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTTgwSR-K0[/video]
[editline]19th April 2012[/editline]
mind you this is in many games and movies, this was just the first one I thought of[/QUOTE]
I loved that game.
I think it's kind of funny how people are now going on youtube videos and saying:
"Better ending than Mass Effect 3"
:rolleyes:
Anyone know if there are any Aria T'Loak models for Gmod?
Where is the default location for Mass Effect saves?
Does anyone know if your multiplayer unlocks are linked to your account or to your system?
My thoughts on the choices at the ending and what I did and why:
[sp]
So I just finished. Personally, I didn't see a problem with the Starkid as long as that extended cut is a good one. It's not at all what Bioware promised, but then again, I just started this series three weeks ago with Mass Effect. I played all of them in a marathon run free from the years of waiting and without knowing what Bioware said they'd do. I still have a big problem with what happens right after, like all the fleets being stuck in Sol and the Normandy suddenly running away and crashing, but about the choices themselves, here are my thoughts:
The running theme of Mass Effect has been Created vs. Creator. Salarians vs. The Krogan they uplifted. Quarians vs. The Geth. In a twisted way involving the predetermined paths of evolution, Reapers vs. The Races of The Galaxy. Organic Life vs. Synthetic Life. Cerberus vs. EDI too, as we learned through the backstory revealed throughout. Every time a chance to preserve what was given the chance at life and what gave it the chance in the first place, I did. I made peace between the Geth and the Quarians, the Krogan and everybody... I did shoot The Illusive Man, though.
I also didn't know the Starkid was lying. Even though he lied about destroying all synthetic life, he didn't lie about cycles repeating. I study literature, which is basically finding the connections between anything and everything. I know cycles repeat, and I know that after the war prejudice against synthetics and war between peoples would continue. They did after WWII. So I did the only thing that made sense. I threw myself in.
Everyone lives.
It certainly doesn't stop the probability of war and such in the future, but oh well. Maybe with their new sense of life and I guess "humanity," synthetics will understand and sympathyze with and get along with everyone even more. With their new bodies and enhanced thinking and general functioning, organics will do the same, and maybe have the logic to find new solutions to conflicts instead of war. All of this should also very much speed up recovery and, depending on their biology, survivability. Like the way cooperation between Geth and Quarians gave them like a 50 year head start with rebuilding the homeworld.
The whole series was a question about the worth of life as a whole, and while not what they'd apparently promised, I can see why this was the ending Bioware chose. Yes, your past choices didn't directly affect this at all, but they certainly affected you as a person. I'm willing to bet that a lot of you knew exactly what you were going to pick the second the options were given. No matter what, you get rid of Starkid's control of the Reapers, which are shown in those last minutes to be shackled AI controlled by a creator, the way EDI was controlled by Cerberus.
Control was the option showing that you thought it best to control synthetic life, have it be subservient.
Destruction was the option showing that you had decided committing genocide against synthetic life that was more powerful than you was necessary.
Synthesis shows that you want organics and synthetics to cooperate, and that you can forgive the terrible wrongs either side has committed in favor of a fresh start.
Other thoughts:
The Reapers taking off immediately and the people looking up I think shows that they suddenly understood each other on some new level, and the Reapers immediately called off the attack entirely, now free from the AI making them fight. I think they will be peaceful.
I sympathyzed the tiniest bit with TIM when he was dying, wishing I could see the world the way he could. Then the camera turned to the destruction and debris and explosions, and I lost that sympathy. [/sp]
[QUOTE=TehDoctorz;35630812]Where is the default location for Mass Effect saves?[/QUOTE]
Documents\Bioware\Mass Effect 3\Saves
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