• Sven Coop ruined?
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I remember back in '09 at the age of 10 (I'm 12), I was browsing FP because, well.... that's what I always did (and still do) when I get home from school. Then, the thread popped up for Sven Coop. Downloading it as fast as my horrible connection can, I waited in anticipation for it to finish downloading. I remember having this small window near the ceiling and at that time it shone this bluish light which for some reason made everything seem so better. I played the hell out of that game, along with Obsidian Conflict. I've played them until about December '11 when the community reached the point of about 10 people on at a time (aside from the AoM server on Sven-Coop). I really wished they would get updated more. These games made up some of my childhood, along with Gmod and the Orange Box. These 2 games made up part of my childhood and would still do if there was still a community.
i'm surprised they're at 4.6 now. the last version i played was 4.0 and that took years to come out
They're likely going to come out with a 5.0 within the year. But, maybe the community isn't very large and they might just stop working on it.
I remember playing back in 2008-2009 some kind of puzzle/survival-horror map: plataforming, killing zombies, getting codes and finding secret levels, it was fucking amazing [QUOTE=Marcolade;35471730]I know, I remember seeing those way back when. I do kind of enjoy and appreciate having mods like Obsidian Conflict and Synergy, but it just doesn't feel the same to me. It feels like something is missing for me.[/QUOTE] I feel the same way I also kinda hate most source mods, they feel so generic sometimes, like they are lacking of custom content
The best parts of the Resident Evil levels were doing things like turning the main lobby into a dance festival with HLSS and trying to do stupid things on purpose if you were in a cutscene when it played.
Man I remember playing Sven back in the pre-3.0 days during the WON era. I agree with you guys, 4.0 changing the guns made it less of a Half-Life mod. The XP mod servers can suck a dick, that's what killed Sven for me IMHO.
The best thing about sven by far is that anyone who maps, Sven was the most fun to map for. You could honestly do ANYTHING with it and make anything and it would find its way to fit into sven. You could have a climb map with grunts propelling down from helicopters while you need to protect some bomb while finding secrets all in 1 map. climb_secret_grunt_v4
Should I donate to the team? The community is low and I was wondering if it would help, could it?
Don't waste your money.
I still enjoying this mod. New weapons are different but I wouldn't say that they are worse. I also love that AI is harder and maps still have HL climate (however there are some kewl completely out of place but hey! who cares when they are fun).
[QUOTE=Hell-met;35463978]I'm more annoyed by the tacticool guns, sounds, etc. from the newest version. As a former dire sven lover, I don't like how they pretty much killed the "half-life" part of their mod after 3.0 You may tell me to use low-def model packs and such, but it's not just that. The new AI is incredibly unstable, random and unfun. Even the weapon behavior themselves were made terrible (mp5 grenades, random bullet spread, unfitting new particles) [img]http://www.svencoop.com/images/svenbutton.gif[/img] more like wannabe-cod with aliens.[/QUOTE] this is stupid as fuck just because cod uses real looking guns doesn't mean other fps games are trying to be cod by using real looking guns. seriously games used the guns in cod way before cod 4 even came out
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;35534940]this is stupid as fuck just because cod uses real looking guns doesn't mean other fps games are trying to be cod by using real looking guns. seriously games used the guns in cod way before cod 4 even came out[/QUOTE] I wonder if anyone's stupid enough to join the army and call all the guns "cod 4 guns". shoot that i-rack-e! he's holdin one of em cod 4 guns!
[QUOTE=Hentie;35538067]I wonder if anyone's stupid enough to join the army and call all the guns "cod 4 guns". shoot that i-rack-e! he's holdin one of em cod 4 guns![/QUOTE] I thought Cod was a fish?
Every time someone said "tacticool" on this thread I got closer to shooting myself. NONE of the weapons are tacticool. "oh no it has an acog it must be tacticool help I know nothing about guns" I personally liked the AI changes and the boost in difficulty, as a long time Sven veteran I got too used to the AI and they were way too predictable. It got too easy. The AI changes made the game more difficult and added a larger flick-reaction time feel to it. The new AI is certainly harder to exploit than the classic AI.
[QUOTE=:smugspike:;35472613]I'd pick OC over Synergy anyday for a more sven-coop like experience. If you just want Half-Life 2 co-op, though, Synergy is the way to go.[/QUOTE] I gave OC a try. It was literally the single worst Source mod I've ever played. One of the built in maps had strange errors everywhere. [img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558664198988022882/966814010360EC065397598E7A23952402836C18/[/img] [img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558664198988022258/31F2DD64620220FF0A1A6CCD48FA411BE88457B2/[/img] The other map was supposed to be a Zelda map but it was just giant cubes after giant cubes of glitched to shit respawning enemies and half-assed puzzles. Seriously, the fassassins were just sliding around the rooms not doing anything. Anyway, I'm going to contend that I still enjoy Sven Coop because I never play on public servers and I only play on private servers with friends, and I see nothing wrong with the newer updates, but if you really have issues there's literally nothing stopping you from downloading Sven Coop 3.0 and grabbing a few friends and hosting a server. Also I don't understand how Sven Coop 4.6 is easier, I haven't noticed any real difficulty change from the same maps in 3.0 to 4.6, except those caused by me simply growing as a gamer. (The game didn't become easier, I just became better.) [editline]14th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Marcolade;35527053]Don't waste your money.[/QUOTE] I donated to them a few months ago simply because I feel as if I've gotten my money's worth out of the game several times over.
I used to play SC so frigging much "back in the day" (Read: '07-'08). I used to love those Resident Evil mods so much haha. I had a server running them 24/7 really. Met some awesome people on there, I still talk to some of 'em daily. Too bad the games dead now. And like most of you, I was really hyped for the 4.0 release but kind of just forgot about it. I for one do like the "new" guns though.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;35571283]I gave OC a try. It was literally the single worst Source mod I've ever played. One of the built in maps had strange errors everywhere. [img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558664198988022882/966814010360EC065397598E7A23952402836C18/[/img] [img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558664198988022258/31F2DD64620220FF0A1A6CCD48FA411BE88457B2/[/img] The other map was supposed to be a Zelda map but it was just giant cubes after giant cubes of glitched to shit respawning enemies and half-assed puzzles. Seriously, the fassassins were just sliding around the rooms not doing anything. Anyway, I'm going to contend that I still enjoy Sven Coop because I never play on public servers and I only play on private servers with friends, and I see nothing wrong with the newer updates, but if you really have issues there's literally nothing stopping you from downloading Sven Coop 3.0 and grabbing a few friends and hosting a server. Also I don't understand how Sven Coop 4.6 is easier, I haven't noticed any real difficulty change from the same maps in 3.0 to 4.6, except those caused by me simply growing as a gamer. (The game didn't become easier, I just became better.) [editline]14th April 2012[/editline] I donated to them a few months ago simply because I feel as if I've gotten my money's worth out of the game several times over.[/QUOTE] ATI bug. Easy to avoid by either using static mounting or starting oc_lobby on your own listenserver before joining any other servers. It's mostly fixed in the upcoming version.
[QUOTE=KillaBEe;35572639]I used to play SC so frigging much "back in the day" (Read: '07-'08). I used to love those Resident Evil mods so much haha. I had a server running them 24/7 really. Met some awesome people on there, I still talk to some of 'em daily. Too bad the games dead now. And like most of you, I was really hyped for the 4.0 release but kind of just forgot about it. I for one do like the "new" guns though.[/QUOTE] Except it isn't dead.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;35571283]I gave OC a try. It was literally the single worst Source mod I've ever played. One of the built in maps had strange errors everywhere.[/QUOTE] if thats the worfox and keychain winter map hating it is default
Oh trust me, I regret ever including it. You won't be seeing any of that ever again when the next version is coming out.
So apparently, the Sven Co-Op team went to Valve to see if they could make paid-for DLC released on Steam, and 'allegedly' got an acceptance for it. Said DLC included weapons and monsters (by not having the DLC, you can't hurt the bastards but they can hurt you. Gee, it's like they're trying to kill their mod). Then it didn't get put up and supposedly it was just an April Fools from Gabe because they don't exactly find a modding team getting profits off of a mod that uses Half-Life as a base, among other things, is acceptable. [url]http://www.moddb.com/mods/sven-co-op/news/sven-co-op-dlc-canceled[/url] Apparently it was one giant April Fools in and of itself, but who the hell knows.
Do you seriously believe that was real?
[QUOTE=fear me;35611963]Do you seriously believe that was real?[/QUOTE] Apparently some of the comments do, somehow.
I miss those secretcity map, like most turican map.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;35611880]So apparently, the Sven Co-Op team went to Valve to see if they could make paid-for DLC released on Steam, and 'allegedly' got an acceptance for it. Said DLC included weapons and monsters (by not having the DLC, you can't hurt the bastards but they can hurt you. Gee, it's like they're trying to kill their mod). Then it didn't get put up and supposedly it was just an April Fools from Gabe because they don't exactly find a modding team getting profits off of a mod that uses Half-Life as a base, among other things, is acceptable. [url]http://www.moddb.com/mods/sven-co-op/news/sven-co-op-dlc-canceled[/url] Apparently it was one giant April Fools in and of itself, but who the hell knows.[/QUOTE] You must not have following Sven for long, they always have April fools jokes. On the topic of the newer Sven versions being different, that is true it is quite different from classic Sven Coop. I still have fun in it though I hate the black ops dudes since they have magic accuracy.
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;35616083]You must not have following Sven for long, they always have April fools jokes. On the topic of the newer Sven versions being different, that is true it is quite different from classic Sven Coop. I still have fun in it though I hate the black ops dudes since they have magic accuracy.[/QUOTE] Yeah, i'm a bit too literal-thinking when I read things sometimes, so I jumped the gun with a useless post. Oh well, no harm done. I ponder if Sven Coop is worth a reinstallation, though. Half the time servers didn't let me connect for some odd reason I don't remember.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;35616966]Yeah, i'm a bit too literal-thinking when I read things sometimes, so I jumped the gun with a useless post. Oh well, no harm done. I ponder if Sven Coop is worth a reinstallation, though. Half the time servers didn't let me connect for some odd reason I don't remember.[/QUOTE] If you want to play I recommend getting the LD pack. Sven is good when you're bored, in my opinion.
The age of co-op mods is pretty much over. There aren't a whole lot of servers up, and the ones that are usually host terrible maps with shitty mods. People just moved on to different things I guess.
[QUOTE=smurfy;35469440]Played on a shit server = the game is ruined, fuck the developers[/QUOTE] Well that is easy to say when there is one server that is not shit.
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;35616083]You must not have following Sven for long, they always have April fools jokes. On the topic of the newer Sven versions being different, that is true it is quite different from classic Sven Coop. I still have fun in it though I hate the black ops dudes since they have magic accuracy.[/QUOTE] Yeah is true. The april´s fool joke of the last year looked so real that i believed it, heh. The only thing that i remember complain about the npcs was about the robot grunts, when the devs made them explode after die, although i dont remember when it was this added.
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