Battleground: Europe - WW2 Online (Now with 2 week free trial)

[timmy41]

*walks in*
*raises eyebrow*
this isnt the hanger!
oh well, thought id share some pics, and LOL at 'soldier' for getting banned

[IMG]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/505thtimmy41/SShot2110.jpg[/IMG]

taken by FREESHOT:

[IMG]http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m323/freeshotbucket/111under.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m323/freeshotbucket/spitfire111.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m323/freeshotbucket/bridgeattack.jpg[/IMG]

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BTW if you need any help in game, and your playing axis, type ".m timmy41 im from facepunch". if im online ill respond

[God of Ashes]

WOOHOO TIMMEH!

[God of Ashes]

New Information about the fighters being put into the game as said by DOC

[quote]"Includes rank shift by tier and basic combat attributes (rated) pulled from windtunnel test reults. ie: this is the order in which they perform even if some don't want to believe it.

Note: Where summary differances are very small (+/- 2% or less) between aircraft they share a rating, in descending order of that slight differance. Performance which varies at different altitudes (all aircraft) is averaged for rating purposes.

Tier 0

GERMAN
Rank 1 (n00b)
Bf109E-1
Rank 3 (vet)
Bf110C-4

FRENCH
Rank 1 (n00b)
H-75
Rank 3 (vet)
D.520

BRITISH
Rank 1 (n00b)
Hurricane.I
Rank 3 (vet)
Spitfire.Ia

SUMMARY: Tier 0 attributes
*Speed
1st. Bf109E-1/Spitfire.Ia
2nd. Bf110C-4/D.520/H-75
3rd. Hurricane.I
*Climb
1st. Bf109E-1
2nd. D.520/Spitfire.Ia
3rd. Bf110C-4/Hurricane.I
4th. H-75
*Stall-Turn
1st. H-75
2nd.Hurricane.I/Spitfire.Ia/Bf109E-1
3rd. D.520
4th. Bf110C-4
*Firepower
1st. Bf110C-4
2nd. D.520
3rd. Spitfire.Ia/Hurricane.I
4th. H-75
5th. Bf109E-1

German NOOB ride is best performer along with the British *VET* ride. This is the reverse of the general trend in game and offsets it's light armament to some degree, while reinforcing the NON RED vs BLUE nature of the game.

Tier 1

GERMAN
Rank 1 (n00b)
Bf109E-1
Rank 2 (transitioning n00b)
Bf110C-4
Rank 3 (vet)
Bf109E-4

FRENCH
Rank 1 (n00b)
H-75
Rank 2 (transitioning n00b)
D.520
Rank 3 (vet)
Curtiss H.81

BRITISH
Rank 1 (noob)
Hurricane.IIb
Rank 2 (transitioning n00b)
Spitfire.Ia
Rank 3 (vet)
Spitfire.Ib

SUMMARY: Tier 1 attributes
*Speed
1st. Bf109E-4
2nd. Spitfire.Ib
3rd. Curtiss H-81
*Climb
1st. Bf109E-4
2nd. Spitfire.Ib
3rd. Curtiss H-81
*Stall-Turn
1st. Spitfire.Ib
2nd. Bf109E-4/Curtiss H-81
*Firepower
1st. Spitfire.Ib/Bf109E-4/Curtiss H-81

Everybodies VET ride not greatly dissimilar in top speed. British RAF get their first 20mm cannon ability but Germans still hold the climb card against all comers in both 109s. Turning fights are a wash depending on pilots skill. German n00bs still have the performance edge but newly ranked (one level up) n00bs in all countries now get the previous Tier 0 VET rides with all the abilities they missed in the previous tier.

Tier 2

GERMAN
Rank 1 (n00b)
Bf109E-1
Rank 1 (n00b)
Bf110C-4
Rank 2 (transitioning noob)
Bf109E-4
Rank 3 (vet)
Bf110C-4B
Rank 5 (top vet)
Bf109F-4

FRENCH
Rank 1 (n00b)
H-75
Rank 1 (n00b)
D.520
Rank 2 (transitioning n00b)
Curtiss H.81
Rank 3 (vet)
Bell Mle.14a
Rank 5 (top vet)
Curtiss H.87

BRITISH
Rank 1 (n00b)
Hurricane.IIb
Rank 1 (n00b)
Spitfire.Ia
Rank 2 (transitioning n00b)
Spitfire.Ib
Rank 3 (vet)
Hurricane.IIc
Rank 5 (top vet)
Spitfire.Vb

SUMMARY: Tier 2 attributes
*Speed
1st. Bf109F-4
2nd. Spitfire.Vb/Curtiss H-87/Bell Mle.14a (below 4km alt. only)
3rd. Hurricane.IIc/Bf110C-4B
*Climb
1st. Bf109F-4
2nd. Spitfire.Vb
3rd. Curtiss H-87/Bf110C-4B/Hurricane.IIc
4th. Bell Mle.14a
*Stall-Turn
1st. Spitfire.Vb
2nd. Bf109F-4
3rd. Hurricane.IIc/Curtiss H-87
4th. Bell Mle.14a
5th. Bf110C-4B
*Firepower
1st. Curtiss H-87
2nd. Hurricane.IIc
3rd. Bell Mle.14a/Bf110C-4B
4th. /Spitfire.Vb/Bf109F-4
*Bombs
1st. Bf110C-4B
2nd. Bell Mle.14a
3rd. Hurricane.IIc

SUMMARY: Everybody now has 2 n00b rides and have a "newly ranked n00b" (transitional n00b) improved ride ... in addition to 2 x VET rides one of them being a CAS unit and the other a "top vet rank" ride. Performance differances are becoming more varied but the German rides always have the climb advantage and are generally faster in level flight (with one exception) in general the mixed capabilities of each country are broader but with the greater variety of available aircraft types in the later tiers the playing field is broadly even. With a fairly similar paint scheme employed in each countries service there is a reasonable chance a pilot may not by this stage of a campaign always be aware what type he is in combat with ... as aircraft leave and arrive within a contested region and where he may be otherwise occupied defending his life or taking someone elses.

Tier 3

GERMAN
Rank 1 (n00b)
Bf109E-1
Rank 1 (n00b)
Bf110C-4
Rank 2 (transitioning n00b)
Bf109E-4
Rank 3 (new vet)
Bf110C-4B
Rank 4 (vet)
Bf109F-4
Rank 5 (top vet)
Bf109G-6
Rank 5 (top vet)
Fw190A-4

FRENCH
Rank 1 (n00b)
H-75
Rank 1 (n00b)
D.520
Rank 2 (transitioning n00b)
Curtiss H.81
Rank 3 (new vet)
Bell Mle.14a
Rank 4 (vet)
Curtiss H.87
Rank 5 (top vet)
Lockheed P.322

BRITISH
Rank 1 (n00b)
Hurricane.IIb
Rank 1 (n00b)
Spitfire.Ia
Rank 2 (transitioning n00b)
Spitfire.Ib
Rank 3 (new vet)
Hurricane.IIc
Rank 4 (vet)
Spitfire.Vb
Rank 5 (top vet)
Spitfire.IX

SUMMARY: Tier 3 attributes
*Speed
1st. Fw190A-4
2nd. Lockheed-322
3rd. Spitfire.IX
4th. Bf109G-6U4
*Climb
1st. Spitfire.IX
2nd. Fw190A-4
3rd. Bf109G-6U4
4th. Lockheed-322
*Stall-Turn
1st. Spitfire.IX
2nd. Lockheed-322
3rd. Bf109G-6U4
4th. Fw190A-4
*Firepower
1st. Bf109G-6U4
2nd. Lockheed-322/Fw190A-4
3rd. Spitfire.IX

The Germans are the only country that get two aircraft introduced in the (currently) final equipment introduction tier. Both are fairly narrow focus where the two Allied countries get a single aircaft of generally broader combat capabilities, covering a wider performance envelope of both speed and turning ability. The Allied air forces also gain some ability in their previously inferior climbing performance. Since ALL aircraft types are now in game by this stage, this tends to be moot that the Germans get 2 types in introduction and the Allies only the one (each, which amounts to 2 functionally speaking) ... the abilities of the aircraft in question provide the parity that needs to be found given it isn't a red vs blue game and there needs to be acceptance of the differances to be dealt with as part of the war here. The previous similarity in colour schemes each countries aircraft are painted is continued as a manner in which to make fast action in combat less likely to have you totally sure of what you're facing at all times ... as the range of aircraft types in action is now at it's most varied. Bf109s are all similar to enemy pilots at longer ranges as are Spitfires/Hurricanes to their opponents, in general at least even though specific variations do exist.

The early tier 0 and tier 1 aircraft are generally being stripped out of supply by this stage of a campaign (particularly so with the low end tier 0 types) but there is still a very wide range of types to be found in combat at this latter stage of a campaign, making for a wide variety of encounters and the need by all pilots to work together and develop and exploit combat tactics to favour this range of differances in performance of all their different aircraft types, and those of their opponents.

As the campaign moves on to even later stages, and earlier types tend to be removed from the equipment inventory in favour of the new types of aircraft, some early types (tier 1 vet rides for the most part) will probably always be available in some numbers for the sake of both variety and for those that still favour the lighter more nimble types even in the latter stages of a live campaign. Rank access to the lower currently available aircraft types (which changes as the campaign continues on) will dynamically shift downwards to accomodate the need to have n00b equipment available for newer players who previously didn't have the rank to fly the better types when they were top tier aircraft in earlier tiers but are now no longer the top dogs of the equipment list. Thus n00bs in later stages of a campaign will be able to fly what were vet rides earlier on, like the D.520/Bf109E-4/Spitfire.Ib combo.

We now have an excellent use of rank from the highest combat orientated rank down to the lowest, and a transitioning equipment access (through rank) that much better reflects the pilots ability to progress in skill and experience and climb the ladder of success, while not being stuck entirely at the earliest equipment level from the beginning to the end of their campaign. This is probably as good as the air game has ever been (in terms of set-up) and in reality represents the best of both what is available and what one can experience in terms of roleplay given what equipment is available for us to leverage towards that end."[/quote]

[Ashes of God]

Ahhhhh shiiiit

[postal]

You silly billy. Now get back on your main account.

[Ashes of God]

[QUOTE=postal]You silly billy. Now get back on your main account.[/QUOTE]
heheh thanks postal

[Tyanet]

[QUOTE=God of Ashes]Go to C:\Program Files\Playnet\Playgate then click on the icon "Playgate".[/QUOTE]

there is no C:\Program Files\Playnet\Playgate folder

[God of Ashes]

[QUOTE=tyanet]there is no C:\Program Files\Playnet\Playgate folder[/QUOTE]
There's your problem. Go here [url]http://www.playnet.com/scripts/wwiionline/downloads.jsp[/url] and download the Playgate full install

[God of Ashes]

Sneak Peak at the new 109e1!!!!!

[img]http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6199/bf109e1wipov4.png[/img]

Holy shit that looks awesome!

[Avion]

[QUOTE=God of Ashes]Sneak Peak at the new 109e1!!!!!

[img]http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6199/bf109e1wipov4.png[/img]

Holy shit that looks awesome![/QUOTE]
Wow, that is EXCELLENT!

[Sethorion]

I wonder if they will redo some of the other aircraft models, give them textures that aren't complete shit.

[God of Ashes]

[QUOTE=Sethorion]I wonder if they will redo some of the other aircraft models, give them textures that aren't complete shit.[/QUOTE]
They're planning to do that to all the vehicles over time. There are well over 100 vehicles in this game. It's gonna take time.

[Sethorion]

Does anyone know a site where I can upload .gif's and imbed them? I got some guncam recordings I want to share.

[b]Edit:[/b]

By no means is my gunnery good, just mediocre.

I tagged this 109E-4 with a cannon round into what I think is either the ammo store or fuel tank in his left wing. I think it was his ammo store because of the delay and if it was a fuel tank it would have been obvious, That 1 round blew his wing off.
[IMG]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5558/109edewingqm5.gif[/IMG]

Now with this JU52 I loaded the fuselage with cannon and MG rounds on the off chance he still had paras inside. Then I fired a burst of cannon rounds into his right engine which caused his fueltank to explode and blow the wing off.[IMG]http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/Sethorion99/Ju52EngineHitDeWing.gif[/IMG]

New one.

[IMG]http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/Sethorion99/JU87pwnt.gif[/IMG]

[God of Ashes]

those are cool! I made some .gifs a while ago as well. I didn't zoom them in like that though

[IMG]http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/God_of_Ashes/Mar19-2008-01-01AM.gif[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/God_of_Ashes/Dec06-2007-02-07AM.gif[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/God_of_Ashes/Dec04-2007-10-00PM.gif[/IMG]

[Sethorion]

[IMG]http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/Sethorion99/110DeWingSpit9.gif[/IMG]

This recruit flew over one of our heavily vulched (that me and my wingmen cleared) airfields. He should have expected it :ninja:
My wingman came in from his front right as I did this and nailed him too, was pretty funny.

[IMG]http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/Sethorion99/JU87BnZSpit9.gif[/IMG]

[God of Ashes]

nice!

[Bobsters34]

I just got this game a few days ago, how can I gain rank in the air force if I can't fly a plane(none available)?

[God of Ashes]

[QUOTE=Bobsters34]I just got this game a few days ago, how can I gain rank in the air force if I can't fly a plane(none available)?[/QUOTE]
Yeah you picked a bad time to join to be honest. Tier 3 is the worst time for a new player. Best thing to do is grab a bomber and bomb some bridges those give you 30 points per hit if you RTB. Need any help just ask people ingame they'll help you out.

[Bobsters34]

Ah, ok, I'll try that. :)

[Sethorion]

This HE111 was a Ratgod :lol:
[IMG]http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/Sethorion99/HE111DeWingHawk87.gif[/IMG]
I didn't get the kill on this 110 for some bloody reason.
[IMG]http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/Sethorion99/110DeWingSpit9NoKill.gif[/IMG]

[God of Ashes]

[QUOTE=Sethorion]This HE111 was a Ratgod :lol:
[IMG]http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/Sethorion99/HE111DeWingHawk87.gif[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]
that was probably JAMMYMAN he's the realism event director.

You'll like his event this time it's an air event.

[url]http://forums.battlegroundeurope.com/showthread.php?t=234272[/url]

also this video is brilliant.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fU3Ut2a4jA&fmt=18[/media]

[Sewer Boy]

i got the strange urge to try the trial again. anything new added to the game since i last played? (several months ago)

[God of Ashes]

[QUOTE=Sewer Boy]i got the strange urge to try the trial again. anything new added to the game since i last played? (several months ago)[/QUOTE]
Probably not. But the rats are hard at work at the moment on the China patch. With it comes a new rank tree for the airforce and infantry as well as 2 new planes. The 109E1 and Spitfire 1b. They're also going to remove the rifle from the sapper unit to make a more defensive unit.

[Sethorion]

[QUOTE=God of Ashes]that was probably JAMMYMAN he's the realism event director.[/QUOTE]
Funny enough it was JAMMYMAN. I managed to get 8 enemy aircraft kills in a spit 9 today which is the most I've ever had with 1 plane. Not in 1 sortie but go out RTB then go out again. In the end I came across a 190 that wasn't stupid and he dragged me for his wingman but I evaded his wingman and the 190 flopped, I Strafed the 190 but didn't get the pilot then hit the deck and his wingman strafed me RIGHT as I clicked okay on the despawn thing and the camera was zooming out and the cunt got the kill.

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Also, I don't tend to record my fighter kills because recording lowers my framerate and I don't like letting enemy fighters get away.

[TGX]

I paid $5 for that game. I installed it and became bored of the shitty controls and laggy engine within ten minutes.

[God of Ashes]

[QUOTE=TGX]I paid $5 for that game. I installed it and became bored of the shitty controls and laggy engine within ten minutes.[/QUOTE]
you have to play it longer than 10 minutes.

also how long ago did you buy the game?

[b]Edit:[/b]

also picture of new spit 1b

[img]http://www.battlegroundeurope.com/images/stories/spit1b_final.jpg[/img]

[cheesedelux]

Somebody PM me when the war restarts, I might buy this.
Loved the trail. (As I keep popping into the thread and saying every few months)

[God of Ashes]

[QUOTE=cheesedelux]Somebody PM me when the war restarts, I might buy this.
Loved the trail. (As I keep popping into the thread and saying every few months)[/QUOTE]
Infantry play is fine during tier 3+.

It's just the airwar that's affected so much. Next patch there's going to be a better progression of rank though.

[zeroarmorclo]

Why do we have to give or credit card numbers and stuff away for a trail?

[Sethorion]

[QUOTE=Zeroarmorclo]Why do we have to give or credit card numbers and stuff away for a trail?[/QUOTE]
A while back they allowed you to make a trial account without putting in your details and I along with tons of people took advantage of this by making like 6 accounts. In the end I took the account that I had the highest rank in and started paying.