Armored Core Megathread - Games

Is the newer Armored Core 4 fun? I thought about buying it off of eBay since I liked the original Armored Core 4 I remember playing all the old Armored Core games The original AC2 for PS2 was a complete bitch with the final boss

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;17022490]Mechs: FUCK YEAH, ROCKET SHOOTING-PPC SPITTING BADASSERY, STOMPS YOUR CUNT ASS TO THE GROUND, SHIT YEAH! Mechas: Hey! Let's spend billions upon billions on researching and constructing a flying bipedal humanoid big robot thingy with extremely impractical non-deflecting armor, instead of built in weapons for easy and cheap and reliable firing, give it fingers to further up the weapon and mecha's development cost! Oh and let's make it fly. Oh and know what would be more practical? Let's arm it with a [B]sword![/B] That'll teach those commies! Oh and here's my 4 year old son. Let him be in charge of painting the damn thing![/QUOTE] Wow man. Mecha is a term for any type of walking machine, not just your usual super robot. There are even realistic ones in anime and such, like in Armored Trooper VOTOMS. [media]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/FISTltsniper/1251595490061.jpg[/media] [media]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/FISTltsniper/VOTOMS.jpg[/media]

Anyways, I was going to buy AC4:FA some time ago, but I didn't in the end, I'll probably buy it now if I can find it. Also having played neither, which one should I go for? AC4 or AC4:FA? Out of what I have read I should go for FA, but you never know.

I would buy them both if you can. the gameplay is quite a bit different, oddly enough. I liked FA a lot after getting burned out on AC4, because it was different.

Yeah I'll probably get both then (they aren't very expensive), but for now I have only found AC4:FA, so I'll go with that to begin with. Also is there a big difference between the 360 and PS3 version?

Anybody played Nexus before? I'm considering getting it.

[quote=3v3ryb0dy]Oh and here's my 4 year old son. Let him be in charge of painting the damn thing![/quote] He should be angsty and pilot it too. But in all seriousness, AC is awesome. Working my way slowly through the AC4 Hard missions at the moment. Goddamn, it's like playing a completely different game. That fucking one in the desert where the Next is being carried on a truck. Easy mode: Blow up the truck and Next in transit. Hard mode: Fight the fucking badass Next who then calls his buddy in for backup.

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;17022490]Mechs: img FUCK YEAH, ROCKET SHOOTING-PPC SPITTING BADASSERY, STOMPS YOUR CUNT ASS TO THE GROUND, SHIT YEAH! Mechas: img Hey! Let's spend billions upon billions on researching and constructing a flying bipedal humanoid big robot thingy with extremely impractical non-deflecting armor, instead of built in weapons for easy and cheap and reliable firing, give it fingers to further up the weapon and mecha's development cost![/QUOTE] Those are pretty extreme examples. Not all mecha is gundamwing, overdesigned piece of shit. Anyway, all Armored Core before the current gen versions have been very toned down mecha, very ploddy and slow. [editline]11:56PM[/editline] [QUOTE=roflcakes;17032905]He should be angsty and pilot it too. But in all seriousness, AC is awesome. Working my way slowly through the AC4 Hard missions at the moment. Goddamn, it's like playing a completely different game. That fucking one in the desert where the Next is being carried on a truck. Easy mode: Blow up the truck and Next in transit. Hard mode: Fight the fucking badass Next who then calls his buddy in for backup.[/QUOTE] I really like how they made missions harder, they'd make it so stuff happens differently and changes the scenario of the mission rather than just giving the enemies more health and making you weaker. [editline]11:57PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Saxon;17024306]Is the newer Armored Core 4 fun? I thought about buying it off of eBay since I liked the original Armored Core 4[/QUOTE] If you liked original AC4 then you'll love AC4A; - More missions - More parts - Working online component - Branching mission structure - [B]Arms forts[/B]

The "Mech vs. Mecha" argument is the reason I like games like Mechwarrior and Chromehounds. The less Japanese designs are way more practical and realistic. There's really not an advantage to giving them all those fingers, joints, detached weaponry, etc.

Mechwarrior and Chromehounds are so much better.

[QUOTE=Zombii;17034737]Mechwarrior and Chromehounds are so much better.[/QUOTE] Armored Core will always be a great series, at least everything leading up to AC4, I personally don't like the sound of these "Nexts."

I still play Chromehounds. I strongly believe that a second one is on the way. I think that is why they are shutting the servers down in 2010. But they are doing server maintenance on september 1st, so they are planning something. By the way, they have already made Chromehounds 2, but could not get anyone to publish it. Maybe they found a publisher.

[QUOTE=SKEEA;17036058]I still play Chromehounds. [b]1. I strongly believe that a second one is on the way.[/b] [b]2.I think that is why they are shutting the servers down in 2010.[/b] But they are doing server maintenance on september 1st, so they are planning something. By the way, they have already made Chromehounds 2, but could not get anyone to publish it. Maybe they found a publisher.[/QUOTE] 1. :dance: 2. :saddowns:

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;17034667]The "Mech vs. Mecha" argument is the reason I like games like Mechwarrior and Chromehounds. The less Japanese designs are way more practical and realistic. There's really not an advantage to giving them all those fingers, joints, detached weaponry, etc.[/QUOTE] Yes there is. if you give them hands, they can use any weapon developed, and people developing weapons can use a universal basic design for the trigger and holding the weapon. However, I also like Chromehounds. A lot. and still play it quite often. I like Mechwarrior as well, but there hasn't been a new one in quite a while.

[QUOTE=Apocalypsox;17037826]Yes there is. if you give them hands, they can use any weapon developed, and people developing weapons can use a universal basic design for the trigger and holding the weapon. However, I also like Chromehounds. A lot. and still play it quite often. I like Mechwarrior as well, but there hasn't been a new one in quite a while.[/QUOTE] You can also just develop a universal docking system, like the hexagonal system in chromehounds, which is a lot more practical, also I doubt any 50 foot high mechas are going to be using standard firearms.

how would you pick anything up with a universal docking system, though? Some of us like throwing cars at people!

[QUOTE=Apocalypsox;17038523]how would you pick anything up with a universal docking system, though? Some of us like throwing cars at people![/QUOTE] That's an extremely impractical and useless ability. It causes unnecessary damage to the environment and probably wouldn't do much to the enemy anyway.

Your forgetting the fact that they can be then used as labor grunts. I'm not just talking four hundred foot tall mechanical monsters. Humans developed hands for a reason. natural progression is to put them to use in our machines. and bud, we are talking about giant combat mechs fighting, and your whining about the environment?

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;17034852]Armored Core will always be a great series, at least everything leading up to AC4, I personally don't like the sound of these "Nexts."[/QUOTE] Nexts, Normals, whatever. In AC4, when I speak of ACs I mean Nexts, everything else is an MT.

[QUOTE=Apocalypsox;17039598]Your forgetting the fact that they can be then used as labor grunts. I'm not just talking four hundred foot tall mechanical monsters. Humans developed hands for a reason. natural progression is to put them to use in our machines. and bud, we are talking about giant combat mechs fighting, and your whining about the environment?[/QUOTE] Combat mechs don't need fully functioning hands, there is no point. You just have ports where you attach weapons and the like. Hands are unnecessary. If you want mechs and such to be able to pick things up and build things, then you would build specialized mechs. It would cost a shitton of money to give combat mechs smooth joints and hands, for very little added benefit.