Dota 2 - "slapping your ballsack against the keyboard waiting for the pretty bars above the enemys h - Games

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flp8UQJz1Ls[/media] Why would you even Rosh when everyone on the enemy team is up with [i]THAT[/i] team comp.

Da_Maniac best Lich officially.

Also why would you ever get Treads on the Spirit Bear. A complete waste of 450g.

Treads give you an extra 10 attack speed and 5 move speed (nothing lol), as well as putting 3 items into one slot. It may not be the best, but I can understand why people might think it is a good idea.

[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;35782446]Alchemists recommended items are fucking broken. Not a big surprise why he's the most losing hero. I'm wondering why theres no armlet and hood but hey there's mjollnir and vlad. Just genius.[/QUOTE] have you ever played alchemist and done well? his recommended items are great and you can carry with just them, and like you can infer from the name they are "recommended" not "required"

[QUOTE=Jetamo;35781976]No, really, someone(can't remember if it was Cyborgmatt or another guy who delves into the files) found a command for disabling cosmetics. I guess it's different for TF2 because it wasn't built with cosmetics in mind, and therefore the whole game has been jerry-rigged to work with it. However, with DOTA2 they could actually work all that stuff in now while the game's still in heavy development.[/QUOTE] It would be useful for casters, the game is hard enough to spectate without each hero having cosmetic variations.

[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;35782562]yes and i have never succeed with these "recommended" items. alch is probably the best armlet carrier in the game, it synerigies with his ulti greatly. he also has pretty low srt gain so its espesially good early game. most of the reccomended items however either expensive or doesnt doesnt add much needed str/damage except of basher. i still think armlett is the best first core item for alchemist.[/QUOTE] maybe you're just not very good? once you get all your basics and then radiance and mjolnir it's somewhat gg for your team if you know how to play

[QUOTE=Smashman;35782430]Also why would you ever get Treads on the Spirit Bear. A complete waste of 450g.[/QUOTE] I like to get Phase for speed + unit walking + damage against towers. Though this usually means I need to get later on Hyperstone. Threads give boots+attack speed in one slot, so I guess thats why people go threads (also, recommended) [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] Btw. Does Bear drop Rapier if it dies ? I know it's probably a waste, but Rapier is non-stat item with pure damage and bear could use it against towers and such. I gotta test this. *Tested, he drops it, but you can always re-cast bear before it dies and save the rapier. Still, risky.

Am I the only one who has this thing with Tinker? [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/dota_2012-04-30_14-24-02-80.png[/IMG]

If you are the carry you usually just farm your butt off all early game. You should only leave your farm if you have a 100% sure kill. There are some carries that can leave their farm to help in teamfights early because they have abilities that are useful(Faceless Void, Spectre) but some ammount to nothing early game and thats why you need to farm so you can make a difference. Your team shouldnt be angry at you for farming as a carry, if they do, they suck.

[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;35782962]these are luxury items. your team sure will be glad to see you constanly farming for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE] LOL I see what people mean when they say they don't play with facepunchers... you're a carry it's your job to farm [QUOTE=Santz;35783001]Your team shouldnt be angry at you for farming as a carry, if they do, they suck.[/QUOTE] he sucks for having that awful mindset about farming on a hard carry

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;35782704]Am I the only one who has this thing with Tinker? *tinker image*[/QUOTE] I thought I was the only one.

[QUOTE=l l;35782454]have you ever played alchemist and done well? his recommended items are great and you can carry with just them, and like you can infer from the name they are "recommended" not "required"[/QUOTE] How to not play terribly as alchemist- Farm. FarmFarmFarm. You are the best farmer in the game, so fucking farm. That's the reason pubs are terrible at him. Most of them stop farming after the laning phase and just try to get XP/Gold from kills.

Sniper is a really bad carry.

[QUOTE=Edvinas;35783275]Sniper is a really bad carry.[/QUOTE] Hes not the best but hes good, his range makes him very hard to deal for supports(You die before u reach him if he has a couple nice items). He doesnt get picked in professional games because he doesnt have an escape mekanism, and if you are going for a glass cannon you might as well go for OD.

[QUOTE=Santz;35783451]Hes not the best but hes good, his range makes him very hard to deal for supports(You die before u reach him if he has a couple nice items). He doesnt get picked in professional games because he doesnt have an escape mekanism, and if you are going for a glass cannon you might as well go for OD.[/QUOTE] You could say same about Shadow Fiend, but he has his farm mechanism, thus he does sometimes get picked. I think all sniper needs is a slight buff so his early game doesn't hurt as much until he gets 4 in range. He is a carry that can stay on the other side of the river and still fight enemies on the opposite side, not to mention "you die" ultimate. Ministun, great for any sort of channeling heroes, etc. He might be picked more often when Magnataur gets ported (he can cast buff that gives hero a cleave), so that he can AoE farm waves very quickly.

[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;35782962]these are luxury items. your team sure will be glad to see you constanly farming for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE] wow do you actually not know what a carry is lol [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mech Bgum;35783195]im curious how do you play juggernaut then.[/QUOTE] uh yeah the guy who reaches carry status by exploiting his ridiculous early game potential might be an exception, good job

So I managed to trade my copy of Portal 1 for a DotA 2 beta invite. It is incredibly fun to play.

I hope they release Dirge soon. He seems fun to play as.

[QUOTE=Tokagero;35783522]You could say same about Shadow Fiend, but he has his farm mechanism, thus he does sometimes get picked. I think all sniper needs is a slight buff so his early game doesn't hurt as much until he gets 4 in range. He is a carry that can stay on the other side of the river and still fight enemies on the opposite side, not to mention "you die" ultimate. Ministun, great for any sort of channeling heroes, etc. He might be picked more often when Magnataur gets ported (he can cast buff that gives hero a cleave), so that he can AoE farm waves very quickly.[/QUOTE] But Magnataurs Empower doesnt work on rangeds! The thing you will see is Magnataur with Sven/Kunkka teamraping everyone with extra cleave, or at least, thats what ill be doing when hes released.

[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;35782446]Alchemists recommended items are fucking broken. Not a big surprise why he's the most losing hero. I'm wondering why theres no armlet and hood but hey there's mjollnir and vlad. Just genius.[/QUOTE] omniknight has the worst set of recommended items. [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] Oh, nevermind, they changed his recommended build. He used to have sange and yasha, radiance, etc.

So I managed to upload the first item to the DOTA2 Workshop. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/aprilprojects/wat.PNG[/img] legit, no hate.

I'm late to the party. [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=aydin690;35780782]How come sven isn't played as a carry anymore?[/QUOTE] I don't think I've seen a sven played as a carry. He's slow as fuck and I like to play him more as a roaming ganker to a semicarry/support late game. Overall his abilities are wasted if you spend half the game trying to farm to a carry role.

[QUOTE=Santz;35784130]But Magnataurs Empower doesnt work on rangeds! The thing you will see is Magnataur with Sven/Kunkka teamraping everyone with extra cleave, or at least, thats what ill be doing when hes released.[/QUOTE] Allright, didn't know that. Thought for a moment that Battle Fury worked for ranged too. Well, no AoE farm means all Sniper needs is a good babysitter. Chen in nearby jungle, Vengeful Spirit, etc. Sniper has all the tools to be a good carry, he just needs proper enviroment and team to create it. [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=titopei;35784509]I'm late to the party. [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] I don't think I've seen a sven played as a carry. He's slow as fuck and I like to play him more as a roaming ganker to a semicarry/support late game. Overall his abilities are wasted if you spend half the game trying to farm to a carry role.[/QUOTE] Free Cleave, AoE stun, 180% Damage Ultimate. There is some carry potential, but the problem is he needs to gank so that his stun is in constant use and in order for Cleave to farm well he needs items. I guess teams just don't feel like letting him carry. I honestly think that BKB + Daed on Sven is scarier than the same stuff on, I don't know, Drow Ranger ?

So any of you gotten any drops yet? Me and Scrake got 2 head slot drops simultaneously. I could view the backpack, loadouts etc for a while but now theyre gone again. Also steam inventory is borked.

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;35782414]Da_Maniac best Lich officially.[/QUOTE] Oh stop it, you.

[QUOTE=TehWoodPcker;35784663]So any of you gotten any drops yet? Me and Scrake got 2 head slot drops simultaneously. I could view the backpack, loadouts etc for a while but now theyre gone again. Also steam inventory is borked.[/QUOTE] What drops?

[QUOTE=Tokagero;35784619]Allright, didn't know that. Thought for a moment that Battle Fury worked for ranged too. Well, no AoE farm means all Sniper needs is a good babysitter. Chen in nearby jungle, Vengeful Spirit, etc. Sniper has all the tools to be a good carry, he just needs proper enviroment and team to create it. [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] Free Cleave, AoE stun, 180% Damage Ultimate. There is some carry potential, but the problem is he needs to gank so that his stun is in constant use and in order for Cleave to farm well he needs items. I guess teams just don't feel like letting him carry. I honestly think that BKB + Daed on Sven is scarier than the same stuff on, I don't know, Drow Ranger ?[/QUOTE] Maybe I haven't really seen a carry sven's DPS potential but with drows attack speed + the 300-400 damage she dishes out at max level can probably shoot 2 or 3 arrows compared to 1 hit by sven.

Sven carry is pretty doable, it requires a proper team thought. I been in teams of Enigma, Dark Seer, Dazzle and Sven where vacuum + black hole + weave initiation leaves space for Sven to just use all his strenght into cleaving the crushed enemy heroes into pulp. Magnataur is even better as a Sven carry initiator for the fact he does both things with his ultimate, Reverse Polarity(vacuum + huge stun) AND because he increases Sven's attack and cleave by 45%. Its something seen alot in DOTA 1, because its super effective if the initiation is done properly. Sven carry is not really seen much in pubs because it requires team effort and that is something pubs lack unless you are queueing with alot of friends. Edit; The problem of Sven is not the teamfight potencial but the ganking/soloing part. Thats when he suffers because he has really low mobility. Where Drow/viper can slow people to a crawl, Anti-mage, Phantom assassin, riki and void can jump on people who are fleeing, sven can only stun and run towards them, which is not much to be honest.

[QUOTE=Edvinas;35784767]What drops?[/QUOTE] 2 head slot items for any heroes. They had no icon or text about what they were except for TEST or something