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[QUOTE=Banned?;35879910]Every time I see someone ask about countering Phantom Lancer I never see anyone say [B][I]Earthshaker.[/I][/B][/QUOTE] To follow this up, a lot of people say stuff like "But Earthshaker isn't good because Agh's doesn't trigger off the illusions!" and that is a bullshit excuse. If he is pushing a lane with illusions, [I]everything[/I] is going to die. That's free echo's that will hit everyone else.

Quick question, are hero HP and mana and regen and stuff like that derieved from their base stats + stat gain and not from a set value? Like, functionally Sven with 30 in all stats would be the same as Scepter with 30 in all stats (not counting abilities and stuff). I know that armor has a base stat which stats add to, but what else?

ughhhh Echo Slam works on illusions ?

What he's saying is double echo from aghs won't stack with illusions, but even so the damage dealt is immense and enough to kill all illusions.

[QUOTE=WTF Nuke;35880134]What he's saying is double echo from aghs won't stack with illusions, but even so the damage dealt is immense and enough to kill all illusions.[/QUOTE] Non-agh's still counts illusions like BM's spiderlings right?

yes

[QUOTE=titopei;35880170]Non-agh's still counts illusions like BM's spiderlings right?[/QUOTE] Yeah. They're still units. That's what I'm saying.

I am having a streak of bad luck. I had a Lich on my team in a game today. I was Shaman. This Lich went straight for Boots and Tangos at the beginning and forced me to buy courier. I didn't mind, because [i]everyone[/i] forces me to buy even sometimes when I play a carry. Still, Shaman is a lot more item dependent for max effectiveness. A few minutes later, I'm having a great time in mid, farming up really well. Next thing I know, in floats Lich, who leaves his carry alone up top and proceeds to steal my farm. Top was in trouble, so I went up there and Bounty Hunter and I killed a guy. I went back mid to find Lich had Phase Boots now and nothing else. Crap. He's not going to support at all. No wards, no nothing for the entire game. No drums... No, I now have to get those items. Instead the next item he buys is an Ogre Axe. He then goes off by himself and ends up feeding a lot. After a while, time, I was finally able to get my boots of travel and a void stone with drums while handling all the warding. There were tons of successful ganks, but BH and I were still worried about Lich. The next thing he gets is a Void Stone. Lich, the largely item-independent Nuker with a spell that [i]fills his freaking mana bar instantly every 20 seconds[/i] gets a Void Stone. He also never ulted during teamfights. We begged and begged and begged him. Then he finally ulted. On a creep wave. He did only one other time the whole game, and that was finally in a teamfight, so we won that one exchange. There were about 10 other times where he could have saved all of our lives or picked up 2 or 3 kills that ended up just getting away because he never ulted. He also had 90 wins I later found out, so now I'm really mad. He should've had a clue what he was doing.

Bounty Hunter's Track counters PL

Neither Lich nor Shadow Shaman are item dependent.

[QUOTE=Banned?;35880546]Neither Lich nor Shadow Shaman are item dependent.[/QUOTE] I know, but for max effectiveness and push potential, I like to get my boots of travel. We did well, but we lost in the end because he wouldn't use his abilities. He'd just armor himself up, run in, and then run away half-way across the map. He was never present to help. The item stuff was just annoying and he wasn't helping anyone.

Rhasta is very item dependant ! He [B]needs[/B] his boots of speed !

[QUOTE=Kuromu;35880542]Bounty Hunter's Track counters PL[/QUOTE] Any true sight can counter him. [editline]8th May 2012[/editline] As in reveal his location, not remove his DPS from illusions.

Dota down for anyone else?

[QUOTE=Kuromu;35880542]Bounty Hunter's Track counters PL[/QUOTE] and slardar

BH has no AoE though which makes Slardar a much better choice for that sole purpose. If you're using BH as a counter to PL then grab a Battlefury.

[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;35881134]BH has no AoE though which makes Slardar a much better choice for that sole purpose. If you're using BH as a counter to PL then grab a Battlefury.[/QUOTE] You're right, but I have a friend who's played over 400 games with Bounty Hunter (more if you count DotA) and he'd stab you for saying this. :v: He takes care of every stealth hero in the game so easily it's silly, even Broodmother.

[QUOTE=Banned?;35881282]You're right, but I have a friend who's played over 400 games with Bounty Hunter (more if you count DotA) and he'd stab you for saying this. :v: He takes care of every stealth hero in the game so easily it's silly, even Broodmother.[/QUOTE] I don't think I can stand playing the same hero over 400 times. Even my favorite ones get boring after a while.

A gem counters most PL's pretty well because they rely so heavily on the invisible skill, they feel like they can just run at a team and set it off and run away and I've gotten so many easy kills because they either sit there and watch or use the skill too close and we catch up. Most I've played against use it so often that it just hurts them because you just look for the invisible guy.

[IMG]http://horobox.co.uk/u/triferal_1336611265.png[/IMG] man i love this picture

Any predictions for this weeks hero/update?

My guess is Undying or Ogre Magi, or maybe even Meepo.

Ogre Magi, Luna, Chaos Knight, or Mortred. Hoping for Chaos Knight, and I hope they delay Mortred more so they have time to fix her damn model. [editline]8th May 2012[/editline] No hero is also a strong possibility again, as no hero seems particularly close to done at the moment.

I hate no hero, he is so strong and his lategame is basically uncounterable.

[QUOTE=WTF Nuke;35883349]I hate no hero, he is so strong and his lategame is basically uncounterable.[/QUOTE] On top of that it's literally impossible to practice with him in the test build. [editline]8th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=butters757;35883199]My guess is Undying or Ogre Magi, or maybe even Meepo.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't mind having undying in here.

Ogre Magi, his portrait is pretty much done, his particles are looking great, and he has skill icons that look near done. Then Chaos Knight or Luna I would assume.

I'm guessing Ogre or Chaos Knight, both are great heroes. I hope they fix a bit Chaos Knight Ulti tho, its cooldown is waaaay too long. Sure its powerful but 140 seconds its excessive.

That's probably the most reasonable next to no hero.

Undying doesn't even have more than alpha textures and icons in. [editline]8th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=titopei;35881457]I don't think I can stand playing the same hero over 400 times. Even my favorite ones get boring after a while.[/QUOTE] I don't know how he does it.

meepo please