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[QUOTE=Gate;36051633]whats so bad about SnY?[/QUOTE] it combines 2 good items that build into good items into a mediocre item. the bonuses from it are bad on most heroes compared to what you could get for a similar amount of gold, its a fallback item for when youre farming poorly

[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;36051910]it combines 2 good items that build into good items into a mediocre item. the bonuses from it are bad on most heroes compared to what you could get for a similar amount of gold, its a fallback item for when youre farming poorly[/QUOTE] It's a great item on Gondar, though. Since Mantastyle isn't practical on him an Halberd is extremely situational it let's him chase rather well and gives him a few of other stats that he needs.

i suppose you could disassemble it once you feel like upgrading a part, since sange as well as yasha are pretty good by themselves, and having them together is just like a bridge between the two items and the one and a big item (i.e. yasha + halberd) although i'm not sure who you would do that on, and it seems better to rush manta/halberd rather than get both yasha and sange anyways.

[QUOTE=RagerTrader;36052139]It's a great item on Gondar, though. Since Mantastyle isn't practical on him an Halberd is extremely situational it let's him chase rather well and gives him a few of other stats that he needs.[/QUOTE] why does gondar need an item to help him chase? why wouldnt you just build deso/mkb/battlefury/bkb/ac/any other item

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36052146]i suppose you could disassemble it once you feel like upgrading a part, since sange as well as yasha are pretty good by themselves, and having them together is just like a bridge between the two items and the one and a big item (i.e. yasha + halberd) although i'm not sure who you would do that on, and it seems better to rush manta/halberd rather than get both yasha and sange anyways.[/QUOTE] This is a good point, and it looks great on paper, but no hero needs both Sange and Yasha imo. Only case I can see is when you play somebody like AM and he needs Halberd for whatever reason, but even then, he probably finished his Manta already, and you'll be more efficient with Abyssal Blade. [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] As Boat said, SnY should only be taken on agi semi carries where you farmed very poorly, as it gives you a great chunk of agi, while still giving you some HP, a nifty speed bonus, and a somewhat useful slow.

[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;36052216]why does gondar need an item to help him chase? why wouldnt you just build deso/mkb/battlefury/bkb/ac/any other item[/QUOTE] Because he can't always catch up to a fleeing enemy without some sort of speed boost/slow. Shadow Walk doesn't have any sort of speed boost, after all. If someone gets outside of the range of Track, they would be long gone if you didn't have some form of mobility item or slow.

[QUOTE=RagerTrader;36052476]Because he can't always catch up to a fleeing enemy without some sort of speed boost/slow. Shadow Walk doesn't have any sort of speed boost, after all. If someone gets outside of the range of Track, they would be long gone if you didn't have some form of mobility item or slow.[/QUOTE] why would they get out of the range of track? plus, if they do a fucking 12% ms bonus isnt going to do enough to help you catch up to make it worth the 4.2k gold tip: if you find yourself in a situation where you're finding yourself leaving track range long enough for the enemy to escape, buy some 1.4k phase boots that offer stats you need instead of a 4.2k sange and yasha that could be substituted with any other item that could benefit you more

weaver ult doesn't remove bloodseeker ult. Kinda bullshit.

So, yesterday I played with Outworld Destroyer... Still play with bots, escalating on difficulty when I feel like I should, and am doing ok for now. Been playing and learning from a friend who has played Dota for 6 years. Gives me tips on just about everything, which helps alot. He also seems to slaughter the shit out of everything on matchmaking, not to be unexpected after him playing this for 6 years or so. Anyway, I really liked playing OD but I've been thinking... Should I build a scepter or just keep on boosting intelligence?

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;36052818]weaver ult doesn't remove bloodseeker ult. Kinda bullshit.[/QUOTE] if youre unlucky with time lapse and you dont remember this you could end up killing yourself instantly lol. kind of sucks [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/VJyeY.jpg[/thumb]

[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;36052805]tip: if you find yourself in a situation where you're finding yourself leaving track range long enough for the enemy to escape, buy some 1.4k phase boots that offer stats you need instead of a 4.2k sange and yasha that could be substituted with any other item that could benefit you more[/QUOTE] Or even a Drum of Endurance, because everybody loves Drums of Endurances. [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=dass;36052820]So, yesterday I played with Outworld Destroyer... Still play with bots, escalating on difficulty when I feel like I should, and am doing ok for now. Been playing and learning from a friend who has played Dota for 6 years. Gives me tips on just about everything, which helps alot. He also seems to slaughter the shit out of everything on matchmaking, not to be unexpected after him playing this for 6 years or so. Anyway, I really liked playing OD but I've been thinking... Should I build a scepter or just keep on boosting intelligence?[/QUOTE] Aghs Scepter is shit on OD, don't trust the recommended items that much, they're not that great (on every hero, not just OD).

Agha's used to contain a Mystic Staff which is the only reason why it's recommended.

[B][I]EVERY FUCKING TIME BLOODSEEKER IS PICKED[/I][/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyFpOp8Ft0Q[/media] [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] GOD I HAD A FUCKING RADIANCE BY 20 MIN AND WE STILL FUCKING LOST BECAUSE COCKING BADDIES WILL ALWAYS BE FUCKING BAD

[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;36052805]why would they get out of the range of track? plus, if they do a fucking 12% ms bonus isnt going to do enough to help you catch up to make it worth the 4.2k gold tip: if you find yourself in a situation where you're finding yourself leaving track range long enough for the enemy to escape, buy some 1.4k phase boots that offer stats you need instead of a 4.2k sange and yasha that could be substituted with any other item that could benefit you more[/QUOTE] Phase boots make you drop invisibility, and area terrible choice for Bounty. Drum is also good choice, but the stats from S&Y are good fro Bounty. Gives him good stats, all of which he can use. It is 2 good, albeit mismatched, items in one slot.

[QUOTE=Banned?;36053398][B][I]EVERY FUCKING TIME BLOODSEEKER IS PICKED[/I][/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyFpOp8Ft0Q[/media] [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] GOD I HAD A FUCKING RADIANCE BY 20 MIN AND WE STILL FUCKING LOST BECAUSE COCKING BADDIES WILL ALWAYS BE FUCKING BAD[/QUOTE] I dare you to stream yourself playing Bloodseeker, and win on the first try. [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=RagerTrader;36053485]Gives him good stats, all of which he can use. It is 2 good, albeit mismatched, items in one slot.[/QUOTE] True, but he can get better stuff for the same price. Honestly, they should either lower the price of the Sange and the Yasha (and thus the SnY), or make it have better bonuses when combined, because right now it's near worthless.

Lol phase boots are the best choice cause his damage increases greatly from the 24 damage bonus, just because it has an active doesn't mean you have to spam it. When you come out of the stealth and chase a target then it's even better than those shitty power treads. He does not benefit from attack speed, stack pure damage items on him and you're good to go. He is supposed to be a hit and run hero or kill supports instantly hero and attack speed items are not the best choice for that.

when is lycan getting nerfed?

It's hard to carry a game when you think no one else on your team actually gives a flying fuck about winning.

where is the random button? [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/jhvpjm.jpg[/IMG] trolling or not, we lost

[QUOTE=Maruhai;36053271]Or even a Drum of Endurance, because everybody loves Drums of Endurances. [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] Aghs Scepter is shit on OD, don't trust the recommended items that much, they're not that great (on every hero, not just OD).[/QUOTE] It isn't recommended, however, it boosts the ulti. Boosting intelligence it is then. Maybe att speed aswell? [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Banned?;36053398][B][I]EVERY FUCKING TIME BLOODSEEKER IS PICKED[/I][/B] [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] GOD I HAD A FUCKING RADIANCE BY 20 MIN AND WE STILL FUCKING LOST BECAUSE COCKING BADDIES WILL ALWAYS BE FUCKING BAD[/QUOTE] From what it looks like, its great to kill loners who don't know about rupture.

[QUOTE=dass;36054504]It isn't recommended, however, it boosts the ulti. Boosting intelligence it is then. Maybe att speed aswell? [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] From what it looks like, its great to kill loners who don't know about rupture.[/QUOTE] if youre relying on people to not know what a skill does to use it its not a good skill

[QUOTE=dass;36054504]It isn't recommended, however, it boosts the ulti. Boosting intelligence it is then. Maybe att speed aswell?[/QUOTE] The Ult boost you get from it isn't worth 4200 gold. Also, no, focus on Int based items, Force Staff and Sheep Stick being your two main objectives.

[QUOTE=Maruhai;36054683]The Ult boost you get from it isn't worth 4200 gold. Also, no, focus on Int based items, Force Staff and Sheep Stick being your two main objectives.[/QUOTE] Wont Force Staff have too low int? I could get better than that no?

[QUOTE=dass;36054796]Wont Force Staff have too low int? I could get better than that no?[/QUOTE] Force Staff has far more utility than just Int...

It's not just the int, it's very good item for it's activate. It's also cheap as shit.

Rod of Atos is baller on OD too.

[QUOTE=dass;36054796]Wont Force Staff have too low int? I could get better than that no?[/QUOTE] Gives you int, attack speed, damage, [B]an escape mechanism you really need[/B] and a very versatile utility item that lets you help your teammates, and fucks up your foes. [QUOTE=Banned?;36054819]Rod of Atos is baller on OD too.[/QUOTE] I consider Rod of Athos on OD more of a "I had poor farm/I die too quickly, I'm getting this to help me getting back up."

[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;36054963]You know what is more awful than a team without a support? A support that doesn't support.[/QUOTE] "why didn't you get arcane boots instead of treads" "too expensive" i shit you not [editline]22nd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Maruhai;36054982]Gives you int, attack speed, damage, [B]an escape mechanism you really need[/B] and a very versatile utility item that lets you help your teammates, and fucks up your foes. I consider Rod of Athos on OD more of a "I had poor farm/I die too quickly, I'm getting this to help me getting back up."[/QUOTE] i like using force staff when pushing, so i can make the defenders just plop their way into our team

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36053878]when is lycan getting nerfed?[/QUOTE] If you're going to want someone nerfed it should be someone who actually needs one... lol.

mouz won against na'vi for the 2nd game in a row huhhh