Mass Effect Megathread - This one doesn't have time for your solid waste excretions! - Games

4th playthrough of ME2 and I still use a guide for Samara's loyalty mission. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] heh [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] heh

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;26403986][img_thumb]http://guides.gamepressure.com/masseffect2/gfx/word/1131614218.jpg[/img_thumb] #19 is the Nubian Expanse, notice the location of the core bar in relation to the spirals. bottom bar is turning to the right and top bar is turning to the left. [img_thumb]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:3NlkMD4dTTjKzM:http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8169/enda.jpg&t=1[/img_thumb] Look at the location they're heading, relative to the core bar and the spirals. Left bar is going down and right bar is going up.[/QUOTE] I can't see it properly because I'm dumb, where are they heading?

[QUOTE=ThePutty;26410646]I can't see it properly because I'm dumb, where are they heading?[/QUOTE] Here's a better image: [img]http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk125/Frustratedsigh/reapers.jpg[/img] As you can see, the arm to the left (which is the bottom bar on the galaxy map image) is going towards the screen (or to the right in the galaxy map screen.) This means that the Reapers, based on their current movements, are going to hit the easternmost part of the galaxy first. The Nubian Expanse, which is where the attack by a "massive vessel" was reported, is in the easternmost part of the galaxy.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;26410823]Here's a better image: [img_thumb]http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk125/Frustratedsigh/reapers.jpg[/img_thumb] As you can see, the arm to the left (which is the bottom bar on the galaxy map image) is going towards the screen (or to the right in the galaxy map screen.) This means that the Reapers, based on their current movements, are going to hit the easternmost part of the galaxy first. The Nubian Expanse, which is where the attack by a "massive vessel" was reported, is in the easternmost part of the galaxy.[/QUOTE] At least what we know of. :ohdear:

[QUOTE=imadaman;26410882]At least what we know of. :ohdear:[/QUOTE] The part that concerns me is the talk of "boarders." The Reapers aren't known for capturing vessels or people, especially if they're going for the brute force invasion that they're doing currently. Also, what would they be using? Ancient, 50,000 year old husks and Scions? Or are there possibly some more races besides the Collectors we haven't heard about?

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;26410937]The part that concerns me is the talk of "boarders." The Reapers aren't known for capturing vessels or people, especially if they're going for the brute force invasion that they're doing currently. Also, what would they be using? Ancient, 50,000 year old husks and Scions? Or are there possibly some more races besides the Collectors we haven't heard about?[/QUOTE] I bet Bioware will introduce a new type of enemy footsoldier that isn't some indoctrinated fuck or Geth. Besides, Reapers really DO need some active defense systems inside them, since if you manage to get inside one you can also kill one.

I'd say that indroctrination is a sort of self-defence for the Reapers. Not a good one though.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;26411016]I bet Bioware will introduce a new type of enemy footsoldier that isn't some indoctrinated fuck or Geth. Besides, Reapers really DO need some active defense systems inside them, since if you manage to get inside one you can also kill one.[/QUOTE] Perhaps some type of foot soldier analogous to a Reaper immune system?

[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;26411037]I'd say that indroctrination is a sort of self-defence for the Reapers. Not a good one though.[/QUOTE] As said in Mass Effect 1, it takes days to take enough effect to be effective. [QUOTE=Arachnidus;26411047]Perhaps some type of foot soldier analogous to a Reaper immune system?[/QUOTE] It would be interesting to see the ship warp it's interiors to stop attackers, IE sealing off sections and venting shit to space.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;26411112]As said in Mass Effect 1, it takes days to take enough effect to be effective. [/QUOTE] Hence the 'not a good one though'. Unless they can somehow speed up the time it takes to indoctrinate.

Doubt it. Besides, indoctrination is not a defensive tool really. It's there so you can fool organics and get them to help with opening the relay. What bugs me though is that Reapers have such a shitty plan for coming back, I mean leave one guy behind? What if the sun he's near to goes supernova, or he get shit by a big-ass asteroid, or destroyed altogether? As we could see, their plan B was shit too.

But if they had footsoldiers in 'em, why'd Nazara need Saren and the Heretics?

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;26411206]Doubt it. Besides, indoctrination is not a defensive tool really. It's there so you can fool organics and get them to help with opening the relay. What bugs me though is that Reapers have such a shitty plan for coming back, I mean leave one guy behind? What if the sun he's near to goes supernova, or he get shit by a big-ass asteroid, or destroyed altogether? As we could see, their plan B was shit too.[/QUOTE] [sp]Leaving a reaper behind was plan B they were originally able to access the citadel relay from dark space till the Protheans blocked this[/sp]

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;26411206]Doubt it. Besides, indoctrination is not a defensive tool really. It's there so you can fool organics and get them to help with opening the relay. What bugs me though is that Reapers have such a shitty plan for coming back, I mean leave one guy behind? What if the sun he's near to goes supernova, or he get shit by a big-ass asteroid, or destroyed altogether? As we could see, their plan B was shit too.[/QUOTE] They're millions of years old sentient machines who got arrogant. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=cjone2;26411295][sp]Leaving a reaper behind was plan B they were originally able to access the citadel relay from dark space till the Protheans blocked this it[/sp][/QUOTE] Incorrect, it was Plan A, the one left behind was the one who opened the Relay. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=cjone2;26411295][sp]Leaving a reaper behind was plan B they were originally able to access the citadel relay from dark space till the Protheans blocked this it[/sp][/QUOTE] Incorrect, it was Plan A, the one left behind was the one who opened the Relay.

The Keepers will obviously be the new footsoldiers.

The rest of them were asleep y'see.

[QUOTE=imadaman;26411297]They're millions of years old sentient machines who got arrogant. [/QUOTE] Machines are at least supposed to be logical. Why not leave like 3-5 Reapers behind instead? I'm sure they'd be able to hide them just as well. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=phaedon;26411325]The Keepers will obviously be the new footsoldiers.[/QUOTE] I actually hope you get to shoot them in some big battle at the Citadel.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;26411112]It would be interesting to see the ship warp it's interiors to stop attackers, IE sealing off sections and venting shit to space.[/QUOTE] When you said "warp its interiors" I imagined it subtly influencing the attackers' minds into going in circles, or trying to find roomes that are not there or seeing things move in shadows or making them see a floor where there's really a hole and junk like that.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;26411344]Machines are at least supposed to be logical. Why not leave like 3-5 Reapers behind instead? I'm sure they'd be able to hide them just as well.[/QUOTE] Arrogant part.

[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;26411367]When you said "warp its interiors" I imagined it subtly influencing the attackers' minds into going in circles, or trying to find roomes that are not there or seeing things move in shadows or making them see a floor where there's really a hole and junk like that.[/QUOTE] Hm, I worded it strangely, yeah. I was thinking of walkways bending in abstract shapes and shit, infinite loops, exposure to reactor radiation et cetera. I don't know what was in my mind when typing that. But yeah, both ways would be cool.

You know, since we accepted the possibility of the geth having personality, what about the Reapers ?

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;26411206]Doubt it. Besides, indoctrination is not a defensive tool really. It's there so you can fool organics and get them to help with opening the relay. What bugs me though is that Reapers have such a shitty plan for coming back, I mean leave one guy behind? What if the sun he's near to goes supernova, or he get shit by a big-ass asteroid, or destroyed altogether? As we could see, their plan B was shit too.[/QUOTE] They're possibly billions of years old, number possibly in the hundreds of millions, have been all but invulnerable during that entire time, and have a huge God Complex. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=phaedon;26411577]You know, since we accepted the possibility of the geth having personality, what about the Reapers ?[/QUOTE] They definitely have personality, Sovereign was different from Harbinger, for example. I think Sovereign was a lot older then Harbinger, however.

While each is a "nation" (pretty sure it just means it's a conglomerate of millions of minds), it's very possible that they have personalities. Since they're not endlessly mass produced but every one is unique, I'm sure they have unique tendencies too. Harbinger especially was pretty interested in Shepard, trying to recover his body, and personally taunting him in combat all the time.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;26411641]While each is a "nation" (pretty sure it just means it's a conglomerate of millions of minds), it's very possible that they have personalities. Since they're not endlessly mass produced but every one is unique, I'm sure they have unique tendencies too. Harbinger especially was pretty interested in Shepard, trying to recover his body, and personally taunting him in combat all the time.[/QUOTE] Makes sense, Didn't Sovereign lead all those ships in against the citadel? Reminds me of a medieval king.

I just hope that Bioware doesn't justify the Reapers having personality due to the genetic goo. And mind uploading wouldn't work either. Why would you become ally with the murderer of your people ? Except if the Reapers really are our salvation.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;26411611]They're possibly billions of years old, number possibly in the hundreds of millions, have been all but invulnerable during that entire time, and have a huge God Complex. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] They definitely have personality, Sovereign was different from Harbinger, for example. I think Sovereign was a lot older then Harbinger, however.[/QUOTE] Leave enough time in there for a sentient organic species to build them. Robots and especially AIs are way to complex, to start existing from dead matter.

I would love to see a fucked up, but effective reaper (ala deadpool)

[QUOTE=kenji;26411688]Makes sense, Didn't Sovereign lead all those ships in against the citadel? Reminds me of a medieval king.[/QUOTE] That was less about status and more about power, Sovereign himselfwas nealy as strong as all the Coucil's ships combined, why not have him in the fight?

[QUOTE=imadaman;26411297] Incorrect, it was Plan A, the one left behind was the one who opened the Relay.[/QUOTE] Incorrect, the original plan was to send a signal to the Citadel, which would tell the Keepers to open the Citadel relay and allow the Reapers to return to darkspace. Sovreign was left behind to monitor galactic development and ensure the signal was sent. When it failed because of the Prothean's interference it had to find an alternate method of opening the Citadel relay, that being Saren and the Geth. If you're going to correct someone at least get your information straight.

[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;26411808]That was less about status and more about power, Sovereign himselfwas nealy as strong as all the Coucil's ships combined, why not have him in the fight?[/QUOTE] I mean, More like how he was leading a charge? Guess it might just make sense in my head.