• Heroes III
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Seems to me like there's too much of a disparity in the easy and normal difficulties. On easy, it's practically a sandbox mode where I just steamroll all the enemies. On normal, the enemies let me feel like I'm doing somewhat well, then slowly crush all of my hopes and dreams. Maybe I just suck, but I shudder to think what all those higher difficulties play like.
I think the key is making heroes at the very beginning to get lots of stuff very early... of course I suck too.
[QUOTE=sgman91;17442935]I think the key is making heroes at the very beginning to get lots of stuff very early... of course I suck too.[/QUOTE] I usually played with one single very powerful hero (he took all the good artifacts, killed the monsters and fought the enemy), and then had a few useless ones that just went around taking unprotected artifacts, cities, resources and all that. Then when I got another city (that is different than the first one) I usually got another hero who got all the new troops from that city (I never mixed troops from different cities, I hated seeing it, it was untidy and same goes for the order, level 1 troops are in the first slot, level 7 are in the seventh slot and so on).
I'd give my main guy Logistics and Mysticism, the key traits of a main hero. imo.
I would say that no faction is better then the other, all factions is good in it's own way. heroes 3 is so much better then heroes 5, even if I have a giant army in H5 my enemy's still have a bigger army and kick my ass + I don't like that it is in 3D.
Love it got it on my computer right now just cant get WoG to work. :bang:
I really like #2 alot more than this. This game has better gameplay and is much more developed from a practical point of view, but HoMM 2 has much nicer graphics & music I think. Just look! [img]http://foundation.riscos.com/html/features/02/games/sorc.gif[/img] [img]http://i34.tinypic.com/161eypd.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=acds;17444135]I usually played with one single very powerful hero (he took all the good artifacts, killed the monsters and fought the enemy), and then had a few useless ones that just went around taking unprotected artifacts, cities, resources and all that. Then when I got another city (that is different than the first one) I usually got another hero who got all the new troops from that city (I never mixed troops from different cities, I hated seeing it, it was untidy and same goes for the order, level 1 troops are in the first slot, level 7 are in the seventh slot and so on).[/QUOTE] Are you able to win games on the normal difficulty? I pretty much use the same strategy and I tend to get stomped. I just always seem to be out of resources too quickly to buy all the troops/build all the buildings I want. By the time I save up the money to build my town up enough, my enemies are running around with three times as many level 7 creatures as me. As for mixing the troops of multiple towns... Even the game doesn't want you to do that. The more factions you combine with one hero, the lower your morale will be, and you've got the risk of being unable to move on some turns in battle. The only way to avoid that is to get some artifact that forces your troops to be unaffected by morale... Or just use something like elementals that are never affected by morale anyway.
[QUOTE=Loofiloo;17446621]Are you able to win games on the normal difficulty? I pretty much use the same strategy and I tend to get stomped. I just always seem to be out of resources too quickly to buy all the troops/build all the buildings I want. By the time I save up the money to build my town up enough, my enemies are running around with three times as many level 7 creatures as me. As for mixing the troops of multiple towns... Even the game doesn't want you to do that. The more factions you combine with one hero, the lower your morale will be, and you've got the risk of being unable to move on some turns in battle. The only way to avoid that is to get some artifact that forces your troops to be unaffected by morale... Or just use something like elementals that are never affected by morale anyway.[/QUOTE] Well I usually try to get out a few of those "garbage" heroes to go out and take as much as possible, while using the strong one only in case I find a powerful mosnter (or an enemy hero). Though at the beginning it's better to not focus too much on a single hero, otherwise everyone else will conquer stuff a lot quicker than you. I usually go for the single powerfull hero when I'm in mid-late game (at the point were the battles are 99% of the time hero vs hero or a siege), because once every player has conquered his part of the land it really becomes just a game of hero battle>siege>hero battle>siege>hero battle and so on (at that point you need a powerfull hero to succeed with the sieges). Also always keep a few decent heroes near your cities, so that those irritating 1 pixie/imp/skeleton/whatever heroes won't be able to run in, take your resource structures and escape. It really depends on the map though, some maps are pretty "closed" (few paths to cities and such) while others are very open with loads of teleporters everywhere, boat landings and all that. In an open map the single powerfull hero doesn't really work, since you can't really know where the enemy will come form next. Anyways, I usually manage to fair well with the 1 hero tactic (though I usually play against humans, so I'm not sure how the AI plays), but if I try to use that tactic on the wrong map (like an open map) I get stomped.
Can't decide whether to find the cd's for this again or buy heroes 3 D:
Ok this is weird... I just got out of a random-map game where my two heroes were completely fenced off from the rest of the map. There was no way of reaching my enemies without use of the dimension door/fly spell, and I had no way to acquire those spells in my section of land, so... I was just totally stuck. Had to quit that game. There were no subterranean gates, no portals, nothing... I didn't think the random map generator actually had any flaws like that. That seems like a pretty big one, even though it never happened to me before. To be fair, it actually started me with two towns, but one of them was conquered within the first few minutes of the game, so my only option was to use the one which I eventually discovered was in a totally isolated area.
Also, the battle music in this game is just epic. Sometimes I get in a fight with weak enemies just to listen to the music.
[QUOTE=Loofiloo;17448671]Ok this is weird... I just got out of a random-map game where my two heroes were completely fenced off from the rest of the map. There was no way of reaching my enemies without use of the dimension door/fly spell, and I had no way to acquire those spells in my section of land, so... I was just totally stuck. Had to quit that game. There were no subterranean gates, no portals, nothing... I didn't think the random map generator actually had any flaws like that. That seems like a pretty big one, even though it never happened to me before. To be fair, it actually started me with two towns, but one of them was conquered within the first few minutes of the game, so my only option was to use the one which I eventually discovered was in a totally isolated area.[/QUOTE] Yeah it does that, but it's extremely rare. Once I got an island that looked normal, but it turns out there weren't any shipyards on it (and no portals, undergrounds or any other mean of transportation either).
Used to play this with my friends. Azure dragons were annoying as hell though, my friend had like 30 of them owning everything.
I have this. It is quite awesome. I got the Heroes III Complete version. It's a lot of fun, used to take up a lot of my time. Haven't played it in a while though. I should get that WoG expansion pack.
I love having a huge army and attacking really powerful mobs like archangels... and then they join you. :) I was just playing and randomly 22 archangels out of no where wanted to join.
[QUOTE=acds;17428526]Heroes 3 has a dark and gothic style, while Heroes 5 has a more cartoony style (and of course H3 is 2D and H5 is 3D). Gameplay is similar, but H3 complete has a lot more content. Personaly I prefer the units and factions in H3 too (and there are more of them in H3). So yeah, gameplay is pretty similar, but H3 has way more content, cities, monsters, spells and all that (and I prefer H3's art style, but that's just a personal opinion).[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, about H3's artstyle, I remember I was seriously mindfucked as a kid. I was like 'what the fuck is this painted or is this pixel by pixel, it is beautiful.'
Oh jesus christ I love this game! I got it when I was around 9 and been playing it ever since. I remade all of Estonia in the map maker and played on it. Ultra fun :buddy:
Just the music in the main menu overloads me with nostalgia. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIYMAuPEiE8[/media] Must... resist... finding disks... [editline]08:45PM[/editline] I found my disk. [editline]09:56PM[/editline] I have the expansions now, but have mostly only played the base game and haven't battled all the new monsters yet so without thinking much over it I charged 3 azure dragons without knowing what they were, I will never make that mistake again.
[QUOTE=Loofiloo;17448671]Ok this is weird... I just got out of a random-map game where my two heroes were completely fenced off from the rest of the map. There was no way of reaching my enemies without use of the dimension door/fly spell, and I had no way to acquire those spells in my section of land, so... I was just totally stuck. Had to quit that game. There were no subterranean gates, no portals, nothing... I didn't think the random map generator actually had any flaws like that. That seems like a pretty big one, even though it never happened to me before. To be fair, it actually started me with two towns, but one of them was conquered within the first few minutes of the game, so my only option was to use the one which I eventually discovered was in a totally isolated area.[/QUOTE] I still need to find out how to get the random map thing to work. :/
Ah nostalgia rape... I used to love this game. Gonna buy it AGAIN :D
God damn it the nostalgia....I once made a thread about the game.
[QUOTE=Death_;17461606]Ah nostalgia rape... I used to love this game. Gonna buy it AGAIN :D[/QUOTE] Glad I'm remind people of the good days.
I just won my first map on the normal difficulty. :buddy: I feel so special. But it STILL devolved into me running around the map corralling every last hero the enemy had made... The only difference is that they had level 7 and 8 creatures in their army.
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