Most Sympathetic Enemies - Games

Dr. Breen (probably already been mentioned). By negotiating with the Combine he at least stopped them from driving humanity to extinction instantly.

[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;17744114]I would say Saren from Mass Effect for me. At first he just seems like a villain, then you find out he's just a slave.[/QUOTE] Thanks

[QUOTE=Red Shift;17744318]Dr. Breen (probably already been mentioned). By negotiating with the Combine he at least stopped them from driving humanity to extinction instantly.[/QUOTE] Breen was incompetent in the sense that he didn't see what was really going on, I pitied him.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17744363]Breen was incompetent in the sense that he didn't see what was really going on, I pitied him.[/QUOTE] I think he knew what was going on, he just wanted to save his own skin and nobody else in the end. I am guessing the whole brainwash statements he made towards the citizens are just part of the Combine's protocol.

[QUOTE=Dumba$$;17697717]It just struck me. This thread proves it. Some facepunchers... have SOULS![/QUOTE] Proves that some facepunchers are big girls crying about a bunch of polygons.

[QUOTE=markg06;17744690]Proves that some facepunchers are big girls crying about a bunch of polygons.[/QUOTE] Polygons? You mean pixels?

[QUOTE=Red Shift;17744720]Polygons? You mean pixels?[/QUOTE] No, we have 3D now, are you saying Action 52 is better than any 3D game?

[QUOTE=Shibbey;17744755]No, we have 3D now, are you saying Action 52 is better than any 3D game?[/QUOTE] Yes sir, that's exactly what I am saying.

I would have to say the turrets from Portal. "It's not your fault"

[QUOTE=Sottalytober;17724438]The dogs in COD4/5. I always feel bad for killing them.[/QUOTE] And killing people who were in the same boat as you but had just happened to be born in a different country doesn't affect you at all?

[QUOTE=markg06;17744690]Proves that some facepunchers are big girls crying about a bunch of polygons.[/QUOTE] Because everyone who cries for a story they get caught up in is a big girl. That's like saying everyone who is afraid of horror movies, or rollercoasters. Or deadly infectious diseases that you don't have. Oh, don't worry. You're safe. For now, at least.

Ultor Corp, and the Enclave are the best well played Antagonist groups in my opinion. Ultor: They may have been corrupt, but they also knew that the Earth's economy was going to be fucked if they didn't go to Mars. Enclave: They wanted a pure wasteland, so the impure would die, leaving only the true Americans left.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17743776]:smith:[/QUOTE] The thing interesting about Organization XIII unlike bioshock is that the game really doesn't seem to be trying to do that. Everyone in the Organization seems to be trying to be as evil as possible, and the game does paint them as the definite enemy, it's just right from the time you get the order, the only real reason you're killing them is because you're told they shouldn't exist, and you really have to feel bad killing a guy like demyx: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNzinls7SM8[/media]

[QUOTE=power-mad;17745692]The thing interesting about Organization XIII unlike bioshock is that the game really doesn't seem to be trying to do that. Everyone in the Organization seems to be trying to be as evil as possible, and the game does paint them as the definite enemy, it's just right from the time you get the order, the only real reason you're killing them is because you're told they shouldn't exist, and you really have to feel bad killing a guy like demyx: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNzinls7SM8[/media][/QUOTE] Demyx was my favorite Organization XIII member. Hated that battle.

[QUOTE=Spork-Juct;17745348]Ultor Corp, and the Enclave are the best well played Antagonist groups in my opinion. Ultor: They may have been corrupt, but they also knew that the Earth's economy was going to be fucked if they didn't go to Mars. Enclave: They wanted a pure wasteland, so the impure would die, leaving only the true Americans left.[/QUOTE] sorry, but I always get confused when someone says the Ultor from RF:G, while I'm thinking Ultor from Saint's Row. specifically Saint's Row 2. those guys (the Saint's Row Ultor) get no sympathy for me.

[QUOTE=Spork-Juct;17745348]Ultor Corp, and the Enclave are the best well played Antagonist groups in my opinion. Ultor: They may have been corrupt, but they also knew that the Earth's economy was going to be fucked if they didn't go to Mars. Enclave: They wanted a pure wasteland, so the impure would die, leaving only the true Americans left.[/QUOTE] The Enclave wasn't even that evil to that extent, in Fallout 2 Richard Richardson himself said, "I don't relish this decision, but it's the only way." They see it as a necessary evil, since it would cost too many resources to rebuild while having to fight every raider and SM that came their way.

[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;17744114]I would say Saren from Mass Effect for me. At first he just seems like a villain, then you find out he's just a slave. I wanted to save him. Course, I convinced him to save himself with a round to the head if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE] oh fuck you

Every boss at the end of MGS1.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17746221]The Enclave wasn't even that evil to that extent, in Fallout 2 Richard Richardson himself said, "I don't relish this decision, but it's the only way." They see it as a necessary evil, since it would cost too many resources to rebuild while having to fight every raider and SM that came their way.[/QUOTE] The only problem with that is that Richardson was sheltered and insane. Everyone you meet is under the delusion that the people outside the Vaults or the Oil Rig have changed so much they're no longer human - the fact that quite a few of them are evil takes a back seat to genetic difference, making the FEV cleaning ethnic, not merciful. Also, he couldn't possibly know about the advances in civilisation and society being made outside the Oil Rig, that there are enough good people and thriving settlements to successfully make a new civilisation. As much as I love the Enclave, I look at it like this: they want to turn back the clock on the wasteland, an unrealistic goal and a rather undesirable one when you consider that they're the shadow of an oppressive, power mad government which helped bring about a nuclear apocalypse. By the time you get to Fallout 2, there are plenty of better candidates for a working future.

The Grinning Colossus from You Have To Burn The Rope. He was so symphatetic. : (

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tj7aBVC1Vw[/media] [i]I told you to kill me! Now... now I'm goin' mad...[/i] And then his head explodes.

Good ol' Johnny the jail guard in all the MGS games. Just because he has a uniform like the enemy and a balaclava doesn't make him all that bad. :v:

[QUOTE=JesterUK;17746261]oh fuck you[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=smurfy;17744332]Thanks[/QUOTE] No problem. You should expect it in a thread like this. Plus, play it differently you don't get that, soz.

Most of the enemies in the game Second Sight I felt fucking AWFUL for killing the person on the computer. Even when you kill the first enemy in the game, the game makes you think about killing people "Did I kill him?! I didn't mean to, I didn't want to hurt him..." Something to that effect.

[QUOTE=Trogdon;17748202]Most of the enemies in the game Second Sight I felt fucking AWFUL for killing the person on the computer. Even when you kill the first enemy in the game, the game makes you think about killing people "Did I kill him?! I didn't mean to, I didn't want to hurt him..." Something to that effect.[/QUOTE] What game is this?

every time I see the intro of Fallout 2 I can't think of anything good about the Enclave

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17746221]The Enclave wasn't even that evil to that extent, in Fallout 2 Richard Richardson himself said, "I don't relish this decision, but it's the only way." They see it as a necessary evil, since it would cost too many resources to rebuild while having to fight every raider and SM that came their way.[/QUOTE] The Enclave had good intentions, just wrong ways of following through with it. And Ultor is the same way in a sense, they wanted to re-build a city (SR2) so that they could research how to get to Mars (Ultor is an alternative name for Mars) and start a mining facility there (RF), but because of their horribly executed ways of their plans, that is why you in Saints Row 2 and Red Faction fight off the corrupted Ultor.

[QUOTE=Spork-Juct;17748556]The Enclave had good intentions, just wrong ways of following through with it. And Ultor is the same way in a sense, they wanted to re-build a city (SR2) so that they could research how to get to Mars (Ultor is an alternative name for Mars) and start a mining facility there (RF), but because of their horribly executed ways of their plans, that is why you in Saints Row 2 and Red Faction fight off Ultor.[/QUOTE] The best antagonists are the one's that have the right intentions, just the wrong ways of executing them. Also, does that mean Saints Row and Red Faction are part of the same timeline?

Does anyone remember that game where you're looking through the scope of a sniper rifle, and you can see a man tied to a post in an execution type scenario? [sp] and that if you shoot him he stays dead no matter how many times you reopen the game.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;17748587] Also, does that mean Saints Row and Red Faction are part of the same timeline?[/QUOTE] Add sledgehammers to saint row, and i'd buy it.