[QUOTE=Rong;25933261]I've 10 points from HoM so far. Fairly little, I know. I think I can do better! Gotta complete all missions in Cantha on Hard Mode. Anyone interested to party up? We can do ones in Tyria/Elona too.[/QUOTE]
I'm up for Cantha pretty whenever I'm on.
Jaekkaen Osarsso
Looking forward to that.
[QUOTE=Rong;25934493]Looking forward to that.[/QUOTE]
I guess I would join you, I'm Grun Fald Trovun in-game.
Man, it's impossible to get a group for the fissue of woe or the underworld. You go to the temple of ages and this happens
LFG t1 t2 mot mt fowsc 1 to go
then you join it, they say U MT? U MT? then you get kicked. what happened to having fun, not having a strict template and if you don't fit it you can't play
[QUOTE=The_Putty;25972792]Man, it's impossible to get a group for the fissue of woe or the underworld. You go to the temple of ages and this happens
LFG t1 t2 mot mt fowsc 1 to go
then you join it, they say U MT? U MT? then you get kicked. what happened to having fun, not having a strict template and if you don't fit it you can't play[/QUOTE]
I know what you mean... People just prefer to group up with other people for a specific team build to clear the UW or FoW in the fastest time possible, which means anyone who can't play those builds takes forever to find a group.
There used to be so many balanced groups going into UW/FoW.
only way to do it is make it yourself
To be fair I'll just wait till the 7 heroes update and then do them with heroes on this account, less fail-proof, and you're in full control.
What 7 hero update??
The upcoming one together with embark beach.
[QUOTE=Miskav;25977351]The upcoming one together with embark beach.[/QUOTE]
Where can I read more about it? Can't find anything on their website.
[QUOTE=The_Putty;25972792]Man, it's impossible to get a group for the fissue of woe or the underworld. You go to the temple of ages and this happens
LFG t1 t2 mot mt fowsc 1 to go
then you join it, they say U MT? U MT? then you get kicked. what happened to having fun, not having a strict template and if you don't fit it you can't play[/QUOTE]
I completely agree, but you have to understand why they do it. The builds are used because it's the fastest way (that they have discovered) to do UW and Fow, so it increases how much money they're making.
Doing it in maybe a quarter of the time as a normal group is a lot better for making money.
I just need practice because I'm too polite to mess things up :v
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;25977443]Where can I read more about it? Can't find anything on their website.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Beyond[/url]
Things they are doing before gw2
[QUOTE=The_Putty;25972792]Man, it's impossible to get a group for the fissue of woe or the underworld. You go to the temple of ages and this happens
LFG t1 t2 mot mt fowsc 1 to go
then you join it, they say U MT? U MT? then you get kicked. what happened to having fun, not having a strict template and if you don't fit it you can't play[/QUOTE]
I hate to be so blunt but, why are you trying to join them when they are looking for something you are not? The road goes both ways. You don't join a group looking for a healer as an assassin. You can gripe about people not accepting anything but cookie cutter builds and players all you want. Just be sure to remember that these builds are popular because they work the best of what is commonly known. People generally don't do FoW/UW/dungeon clears/DoA because they feel like it. They do it because they make money doing it.
Also consider that the vast majority of the playerbase would be entirely unable to come up with these builds on their own. There are 'pr0' 15 year old players in every game who are only able to do stuff through constant repetition. They don't know why what they do works. They just know that it does. Asking them to do anything different or unusual is akin to asking them to fail.
Do any dungeon clear. Whenever something doesn't go according to plan there is a good chance the whole group explodes as a result. I've seen so many wipes in SoO because the A/P died, and then everyone else ran around like chickens with their heads cut off because they can't get it through their heads that they should just heal whoever is carrying the torch instead. On the first level if the A/N dies while gating half the group invariably dies because they can't keep track of a 3 skill rotation while running through an area they generally don't run through.
If you don't conform to what is expected for an elite area you are not only limiting your team through your set up, you are limiting your team through their inability to handle the change caused by your set up.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;25983560]Also consider that the vast majority of the playerbase would be entirely unable to come up with these builds on their own. There are 'pr0' 15 year old players in every game who are only able to do stuff through constant repetition. They don't know why what they do works. They just know that it does. Asking them to do anything different or unusual is akin to asking them to fail.[/QUOTE]
This has been my opinion for so long. A good player can use good builds, a great player knows why they work.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;25983560]I hate to be so blunt but, why are you trying to join them when they are looking for something you are not? The road goes both ways. You don't join a group looking for a healer as an assassin. You can gripe about people not accepting anything but cookie cutter builds and players all you want. Just be sure to remember that these builds are popular because they work the best of what is commonly known. People generally don't do FoW/UW/dungeon clears/DoA because they feel like it. They do it because they make money doing it.
Also consider that the vast majority of the playerbase would be entirely unable to come up with these builds on their own. There are 'pr0' 15 year old players in every game who are only able to do stuff through constant repetition. They don't know why what they do works. They just know that it does. Asking them to do anything different or unusual is akin to asking them to fail.
Do any dungeon clear. Whenever something doesn't go according to plan there is a good chance the whole group explodes as a result. I've seen so many wipes in SoO because the A/P died, and then everyone else ran around like chickens with their heads cut off because they can't get it through their heads that they should just heal whoever is carrying the torch instead. On the first level if the A/N dies while gating half the group invariably dies because they can't keep track of a 3 skill rotation while running through an area they generally don't run through.
If you don't conform to what is expected for an elite area you are not only limiting your team through your set up, you are limiting your team through their inability to handle the change caused by your set up.[/QUOTE]
the thing is, after I couldn't find a team I put together a team of whoever wanted to join it, and we cleared FoW in like an hour without any problems
i play for fun, not for grinding and making money. and sure, people can grind it to make money, but it really ruins the game when you can't even find a team without making one yourself
I also find it annoying that even though a regular run takes say, 2-3 hours, and a speedclear with the best build only takes say, 15 mins, It'll still take over 3 hours for me just to get the build, and then I'd have to practice until I can play it well. I'd rather just play a regular PvE team in FoW with some decent builds, and not those builds where you have to perfect them in order for them to work and you also need to invest a lot of time and effort into getting all the skills and items, etc.
But people use them, because once you invest the time it is an amazing way to make money.
[QUOTE=The_Putty;25990968]the thing is, after I couldn't find a team I put together a team of whoever wanted to join it, and we cleared FoW in like an hour without any problems
i play for fun, not for grinding and making money. and sure, people can grind it to make money, but it really ruins the game when you can't even find a team without making one yourself[/QUOTE]
Normal Mode or Hard Mode? Did you use consets?
To put things into perspective, a good group can do a hard mode speedclear in 20 minutes under a conset without anyone besides T1, and T2 using personal consumables, and those two just use one for a run buff. T2 especially spends nearly half the time running.
As far as grinding goes, there isn't much left for the people doing it to do. Those that don't like it quit 2 or 3 years ago when they ran out of stuff to do.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;25991124]I also find it annoying that even though a regular run takes say, 2-3 hours, and a speedclear with the best build only takes say, 15 mins, It'll still take over 3 hours for me just to get the build, and then I'd have to practice until I can play it well. I'd rather just play a regular PvE team in FoW with some decent builds, and not those builds where you have to perfect them in order for them to work and you also need to invest a lot of time and effort into getting all the skills and items, etc.[/QUOTE]
If you have ever done any solo farming before, especially perma farming, you can get the general idea behind most of the terra builds. Some of the quests require some timing in UW, but other than that it is pretty simple. Watch a video guide or two. As I recall the UW terraway build on pvx has an excellent set of guides for it with narration.
If you just want to complete FoW/UW once, I don't know what to tell you.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;25991699]
If you just want to complete FoW/UW once, I don't know what to tell you.[/QUOTE]
I do, wait till 7 heroes, as heroes can enter Elite areas, and breeze through it with them.
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Just did The Deep HM with a PuG, oh my god the tanks were terrible, but we managed to kill him anyway, sadly I didn't get his axe.
[url]http://www.massively.com/2010/11/11/costume-design-and-hints-of-whats-to-come-massivelys-intervie/[/url]
[QUOTE]There's going to be a set of costumes coming for the wedding,[/QUOTE]
Gwen and Thackary?
[QUOTE]With the seals between certain realms weakening as a result of events from a Halloween previous, some of the members of the Lunatic Court have been able to slip out as well. They have been acting independent of the Mad King in an attempt to free him, but their plans may be attracting the attention of someone else who would like to return to Tyria...[/QUOTE]
Not shiro, that much is known.
Some or all of this content will be released in the next 4 weeks
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Ffffffffuuuu, why did it post this separately even though I pressed edit?
Skill update released today.
[b]Assassin[/b]
Black Mantis Thrust: increased activation time to 1 second; increased recharge to 6 seconds.
Leaping Mantis Sting: decreased activation time to 1/2 second.
[b]Elementalist[/b]
Mirror of Ice: increased recharge to 45 seconds.
[b]Mesmer[/b]
Empathy (PvP): decreased damage to 15...45.
Visions of Regret: split for PvP; retains original functionality.
Visions of Regret (PvP): decreased unconditional damage to 10...30; decreased conditional damage to 5...40; increased recharge to 30 seconds.
[b] Monk[/b]
Heal Party: split for PvP; retains original functionality.
Heal Party (PvP): increased recharge to 20 seconds; decreased casting time to 1 second.
Healing Burst: changed functionality to: "Target ally is healed for 5...130. All party members in earshot of your target gain Health equal to the Divine Favor bonus from this spell. Your Smiting Prayers are disabled for 20 seconds."
[b] Necromancer[/b]
Barbed Signet: split for PvP; changed to apply Bleeding with Necromancer skills.
Barbed Signet (PvP): removed casting time; removed Health sacrifice; reduced recharge to 4 seconds; changed functionality to: "You suffer from Bleeding for 6 seconds. The next Necromancer skill that targets a foe causes Bleeding for 2...16 seconds."
Faintheartedness: decreased duration to 3...16.
Spoil Victor: split for PvP; retains original functionality.
Spoil Victor (PvP): decreased Health loss to 15...75.
[b] Ritualist [/b]
Gaze of Fury (PvP): this skill now targets only allied spirits.
Recuperation (PvP): removed the 75% Health cap.
Signet of Binding: changed attribute to Spawning Power; increased casting time to 2 seconds; added the following functionality: "50% failure chance with Spawning Power 4 or less."
[b] Warrior [/b]
"Coward!": added recharge of 2 seconds.
Enraging Charge: changed functionality to: "For 5...15 seconds, you move 25% faster. Enraging Charge ends when you successfully strike a target, at which point you gain 0...3 strikes of adrenaline if you hit with a melee attack."
Overbearing Smash: removed unblockable property.
[B]NPC Updates[/B]
Divinus Tutela [Healing Henchman] no longer uses Heal Party or Healer's Boon, he now uses Heal Party (PvP) and Healing Burst.
Tannaros [Punishing Henchman] no longer uses Visions of Regret, he now uses Visions of Regret (PvP).
[b] Bug Fixes[/b]
Fixed a text bug that caused Tannaros [Punishing Henchman] to list Empathy when he was using Empathy (PvP).
Fixed a bug that caused white lines in the Raiment of the Lich costume.
[QUOTE=Rong;26030471][url]http://argos.soft.free.fr/GwEstimator/[/url]
Pretty neat price checker.[/QUOTE]
I love you
What the fuck. I cannot log in the game. I have tried entering my account and password numerous times but it still says that account is incorrect.
[editline]14th November 2010[/editline]
Nevermind fixed it.
Guys, sell your minipets that aren't dedicated but keep one. I've made 110K just selling off three minipets because everybody is all over them for GW2. You only need one dedicated white one to get a medal and a point, doesn't matter what it is.
[QUOTE=Newbienice99;26033208]I love you[/QUOTE]
does this update realtime?
[QUOTE=ThePutty;26062143]Guys, sell your minipets that aren't dedicated but keep one. I've made 110K just selling off three minipets because everybody is all over them for GW2. You only need one dedicated white one to get a medal and a point, doesn't matter what it is.[/QUOTE]
Just because that's what you did doesn't mean it's the best way. If someone wants 30 (or more) points, they are going to have to make it up somehow.
For example, if I did what you did, I would need to make up 5 points elsewhere to get 30 points. That could be 20 hero armors, Vabbian and Obsidian armors, and two more weapons, or a 24 more titles/statues.
Rephrase it to "sell your year 5 minipets and buy year 1/2/3/4 minipets you don't have" and I would agree
[editline]14th November 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=skynrdfan2;26062693]does this update realtime?[/QUOTE]
I think it does.
[QUOTE=Newbienice99;26062845]Just because that's what you did doesn't mean it's the best way. If someone wants 30 (or more) points, they are going to have to make it up somehow.
For example, if I did what you did, I would need to make up 5 points elsewhere to get 30 points. That could be 20 hero armors, Vabbian and Obsidian armors, and two more weapons, or a 24 more titles/statues.
Rephrase it to "sell your year 5 minipets and buy year 1/2/3/4 minipets you don't have" and I would agree
[editline]14th November 2010[/editline]
I think it does.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I don't care about the bonuses. You can't trade them, and they're mostly only starter items anyway that quickly get redundant. I'm only going for 11 points so I get the fiery dragon sword and the diamond aegis, and that's it.
I want at least 30. So far I got 20 or 21 I think, but I stopped playing. I'll play again once the 7-hero update is out so that I can do stuff like DoA, UW, FoW, the Deep & Urgoz if possible (do you think I'll be able to take 11 heroes there??).
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;26066441]I want at least 30. So far I got 20 or 21 I think, but I stopped playing. I'll play again once the 7-hero update is out so that I can do stuff like DoA, UW, FoW, the Deep & Urgoz if possible (do you think I'll be able to take 11 heroes there??).[/QUOTE]
No you wont, 7 heroes update.
So you'll have to 2man it, or just you+7
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