Guild Wars 2 V2: GOTY 2017 or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Arenanet

[Bullet100]

I was watching some folks arguing over the best Necro Blood build over at /vg/
They had some interesting insights and they knew their shit. Was shocked at all the details they put into their arguments and the reasoning behind each of their choices.

[editline]29th February 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Confused111;34929375][URL=http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=26e000j1b2h2o2s80pakf0363d3j4344][IMG]http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/skill_tool/generator.php?lang=en&code=26e000j1b2h2o2s80pakf0363d3j4344[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]

OMG HE RELEASED HIS UPDATE!!!

[editline]29th February 2012[/editline]

[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/[/url]
Seems to have some issues atm though... Some Traits don't show and I don't see text descriptions either.

[TrannyAlert]

Flamethrower Engineer.

[url]http://www.gw2tools.com/calc/#t-e-XppXa:aaa.YWa.bWe.aaa.aaa[/url]

[Benstokes]

Sword and shield Guardian who likes to shout at people.

[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2amq01a1f1h1g1n00a0uu06h78797a7i7l7o[/url]

[Pixelnator]

[url=http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2ei001i1p321j24r0ffa0ua2a9apbdbkbm][img]http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/skill_tool/generator.php?lang=en&code=2ei001i1p321j24r0ffa0ua2a9apbdbkbm[/img][/url]

Why does the engineer colour scheme have to be so brown...

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Benstokes;34930163]Sword and shield Guardian who likes to shout at people.

[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2amq01a1f1h1g1n00a0uu06h78797a7i7l7o[/url][/QUOTE]

You forgot to set your secondary weapon. :eng101:

[Bullet100]

What do you guys think of this build ([B]WIP as we learn more about the skills[/B]):

[URL=http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=26g000j1c1a1l2si0uka50363b3c3k3r46][IMG]http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/skill_tool/generator.php?lang=en&code=26g000j1c1a1l2si0uka50363b3c3k3r46[/IMG][/URL]

Using a longbow:
-Apply bleeding and vulnerability at first strike
-First strike is always a crit
-Increased longbow distance (using skill 1 would also increase total damage via longer distance)
-Arrows pierce targets (hopefully having the chance to apply all of the above to another target nearby)-Use 'Point-Blank Shot' to knock enemy away (for more longbow mayhem)

Swap to Shortbow for close combat:
-Gain swiftness when swapping weapons
-Throw some traps down at their feet
-'Quick Shot' if they get too close gaining swiftness again
-'Crippling Shot' to cripple and have pet apply bleeding
-Shortbow skills recharge 15% faster
-Camouflage if < 25% health

[I]Note that i'm going to be experimenting with my Utility Skills as well as another secondary weapon (when we get access to beta). [/I] I'm really excited for this!

[editline]29th February 2012[/editline]

Also;

New Elementalist Spotlight by YOGSCAST
[video=youtube;NiuNbqPWpEo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiuNbqPWpEo[/video]

[CheezyCakez]

My god Elementalist has a lot of skills

[Lewor]

[QUOTE=DeandreT;34927332]Assuming that minions can cause critical hits this should work fairly well.
With dual daggers.
[URL=http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=286a90u10111i2d100puf057585f5h5j5r][IMG]http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/skill_tool/generator.php?lang=en&code=286a90u10111i2d100puf057585f5h5j5r[/IMG][/URL]
It heals you for each time you (or hopefully minions) critical hit. Minions will also steal life.
Critical hits also cause conditions. The Curses trait makes conditions do a ton a of damage and theoretically anything that walks near your army of minions should fall down and die.

[editline]29th February 2012[/editline]

I assumed that it automatically turns you invisible for a short period of time at 25% health.[/QUOTE]

This is almost exactly the same build i'm going for except for a focus in the offhand, and some minor alterations.

[Pandamox]

i want yogcast to do the warrior spotlight already fuuuuu

[Bullet100]

I want ranger spotlight :\

[editline]29th February 2012[/editline]

NVM
[video=youtube;iM7KKIRDxaE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7KKIRDxaE[/video]

[Pie108]

[QUOTE=Pandamox;34934773]i want yogcast to do the warrior spotlight already fuuuuu[/QUOTE]

TB just said in his vlog that he'll be doing a warrior video in his next wave of content. As far he said, it sounds like he'll do more than just the weapon skills and he has more of the other skills.

[TheMustacheHero]

WELP! That settles it. I'm being a ranger.

That ability where your pet goes and heals a downed guy, that's a deal sealer.

[Bullet100]

[QUOTE=TheMustacheHero;34935865]WELP! That settles it. I'm being a ranger.[/QUOTE]

I'm having trouble making up my mind for the traits and weapon choices. So far I came out with [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1152237?p=34933063&viewfull=1#post34933063"]this build[/URL], but I'm sure that will change once I play the actual game...

[Nystical]

Does anyone have suggestions for a guardian/ranger/necromancer build?

[Bullet100]

[QUOTE=Nystical;34936699]Does anyone have suggestions for a guardian/ranger/necromancer build?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Ranger

(Longbow / Shortbow)
[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2amq01a1f1h1g1n00a0uu06h78797a7i7l7o[/url]

(2H Sword / Axe - War horn)
[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=26e000j1b0l1c2iaeaff0u373p434f4i4l[/url]

Necromancer

(MM Staff)
[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=282000s0v101h2a2550uap5f5i5j5r686b[/url]

(MM Lich Form)
[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=284s00s1h0v102a100auak545f5h5j5r656b[/url]

"Heavier" MM
[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=286a00s1h0v0u2a100auak5a5f5i5j5r686a[/url]

(Axe - Focus / Dagger x2)
[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=28k800t272c111435u00pf4q4v505p5u6b[/url]

Vitamancer
[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=284a00t2i132f2d10f0pu04r5h5i5q5s5t[/url]

Deathshroud Nuker
[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=282000t2h2i0u14a4ap05u4q5758656668[/url]

Guardian

[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2ap60191f1h2s3070au0u06q6t6v7k7l7n[/url]

[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2a4q01b2k2u2j2vbjau00u6g6p6q6t[/url][/QUOTE]

My compilation of all my test builds...still needs work and many many improvements.

[editline]29th February 2012[/editline]

I kept making mistakes on the MM build and the 'luna' was glitching some traits.
Feel free to modify them, but please post them so I can take a look and learn from my mistakes.

[Sickle]

I'm playing either a mesmer or elementalist, the billions of combos sealed it for me. I'm gonna take that one dudes fire crit build.

[Pandamox]

beta please come sooner i'm tired of the shitty unbalanced WoW PvP

[Lowland]

[QUOTE=TheMustacheHero;34935865]WELP! That settles it. I'm being a ranger.

That ability where your pet goes and heals a downed guy, that's a deal sealer.[/QUOTE]

Barely any AoE, though. If DaoC and Warhammer Online are anything to go by, World vs World is going to be all about the AoE.

Personally, I'll probably play a healing oriented class. Water specialized Elementalist looks like it's going to be straight up my alley.

[Mastahamma]

I hope sword and shield builds are viable because I want one, bloody tired of all this dual wieldery/two handery nonsense that I'm forced into by other MMOs

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

okay tell me how bad this build would be for general use

[URL=http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=24mq02a3i321p1t00p5u55][IMG]http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/skill_tool/generator.php?lang=en&code=24mq02a3i321p1t00p5u55[/IMG][/URL]

[Pixelnator]

[QUOTE=Mastahamma;34941460]I hope sword and shield builds are viable because I want one, bloody tired of all this dual wieldery/two handery nonsense that I'm forced into by other MMOs

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

okay tell me how bad this build would be for general use

[URL=http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=24mq02a3i321p1t00p5u55][IMG]http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/skill_tool/generator.php?lang=en&code=24mq02a3i321p1t00p5u55[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]

You have traits that don't give anything to you. Bonus damage when wielding an axe and reduced cooldown for hammers and maces yet you use a sword and a shield.
You're also missing your secondary weapon.

Also, you must really hate conditions seeing as you have 3 skills for removing them.

I'd recommend getting shield master (Increased armor when using a shield) and/or Missile Deflection (reflects projectiles when you are blocking) in the defense trait tree if you do plan on using shields. That way your shield would be offensive towards ranged characters instead of merely nullifying attacks.

[Mastahamma]

hah when I was building (i.e. mashing nearly random things) I couldn't even see what most of the traits did for some reason

guess I'll try to use some other stuff

oh who am I kidding I'll just get every passive I can and not have skills lying about wasting their lives

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

OH so you click those fat bubbles, sheesh, no wonder I put everything on axe and 2h damage

[Sauronvoldemort]

Easy as pie

[URL=http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2a200191d1f2s2v00f5aua6l7a7h7j7n7t][IMG]http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/skill_tool/generator.php?lang=en&code=2a200191d1f2s2v00f5aua6l7a7h7j7n7t[/IMG][/URL]

[Bullet100]

[QUOTE=V12US;34940173]Barely any AoE, though. If DaoC and Warhammer Online are anything to go by, World vs World is going to be all about the AoE.

Personally, I'll probably play a healing oriented class. Water specialized Elementalist looks like it's going to be straight up my alley.[/QUOTE]

You got to remember that Ranger has the ability to set down traps. Not to mention has traits that allows the ranger to ground target traps and increase the size of the traps. I would think that would make a good enough WvW profession anytime of the day!

Imagine a hoard of enemies rushing across a bridge. AoE will do shit ton of damage, but throw down some crippling traps which will increase the amount of time the enemies are inside those AoE marks.

[Nidhogg]

Wait, shit, are people actually playing the beta now? I never got an email again after my initial confirmation last week. :(

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

Wait, nevermind, I misread.

[Bullet100]

[QUOTE=Rong;34942096]Easy as pie

[URL=http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2a200191d1f2s2v00f5aua6l7a7h7j7n7t][IMG]http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/skill_tool/generator.php?lang=en&code=2a200191d1f2s2v00f5aua6l7a7h7j7n7t[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]

Pretty nice build. Looks like you are trying to focus on healing/support for allies. Although I noticed that you seem to only have one Symbol active on your skill bar, Symbol of Protection. Might I suggest that you select a secondary weapon, such as the Mace + Focus, to add Symbol of Faith as well as another skill (Ray of Judgement) that applies regeneration and removes a condition from allies.

If you want pure healing, look into replacing Battle Presence with Write of The Merciful to apply more regeneration to allies. Although take into consideration that regeneration stacks only increase the duration of regeneration (currently). Going to have to experiment with it to figure out the perfect balance.

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Nidhogg;34942362]Wait, shit, are people actually playing the beta now? I never got an email again after my initial confirmation last week. :(

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

Wait, nevermind, I misread.[/QUOTE]

Yes people are playing the beta right now. Although those people only have access via family/friends of Arena Net. I heard a rumor that each person who currently has access was given two keys to hand out to their family/friends. Not sure if that's true, but why can't I just 'imagine' that's true!

[Sauronvoldemort]

I don't like melee tbh. The build is mostly for WvWvW or PvP too. Don't think it'll do so well in PvE climate where I could be soloing

[Bullet100]

[QUOTE=Rong;34942670]I don't like melee tbh. The build is mostly for WvWvW or PvP too. Don't think it'll do so well in PvE climate where I could be soloing[/QUOTE]

Don't have to use melee attack if you are going healer/support

[sp]inb4 GW2 doesn't have trinity roles[/sp]

[Thovex]

[QUOTE=Bullet100;34942906]Don't have to use melee attack if you are going healer/support

[sp]inb4 GW2 doesn't have trinity roles[/sp][/QUOTE]

GW2 doesn't have trinity roles :wink:

[Lowland]

[QUOTE=Bullet100;34942117]You got to remember that Ranger has the ability to set down traps. Not to mention has traits that allows the ranger to ground target traps and increase the size of the traps. I would think that would make a good enough WvW profession anytime of the day!

Imagine a hoard of enemies rushing across a bridge. AoE will do shit ton of damage, but throw down some crippling traps which will increase the amount of time the enemies are inside those AoE marks.[/QUOTE]

It depends on what kind of tactics your group uses. My group preferred mobility and initiative over everything, and traps don't really fit that playstyle. I'm sure you could make it work, though, and it would be a very useful class for castle/keep defense.

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Nidhogg;34942362]Wait, shit, are people actually playing the beta now? I never got an email again after my initial confirmation last week. :(

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

Wait, nevermind, I misread.[/QUOTE]

Are you the Nidhogg I know from Crimson Imperium Reborn?

[markfu]

[URL]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=2gna01h221k1o250000000[/URL]
?

I'm going for mainly a condition mesmer that can use those conditions to allow allies to fall back. I'm a bit unsure how the stealth skills work though, if I use stealth field, would allies who run back into after attacking be undetectable by the enemy even if they run into it when in plain sight? How long does it last? Etc. Because depending on that, I would switch out teleport with stealth. My idea is to generally use one or two of the condition skills at a time so that if we ever start to get overwhelmed, I'd have enough condition skills ready to just spam all of them on as many enemies as possible, then either go stealth or set the teleport so my allies could get out of there quickly and reconvene. If all else fails, I'd also drop down time warp to give them more of a chance to get away.

I'm not exactly sure how effective it would be though. Considering that I'm using a sword, it'd mean I'd be much closer to combat and may be taking more damage, with only one heal skill I'm not sure how viable I'd be soloing. In addition, it seems it'd be much less effective in PvP, although it'd depend on how I position everything.

Oh, there are also traits, hold on.

[editline]1st March 2012[/editline]

Damn that makes this a lot more confusing.

[mickers]

if i play warrior im going to be sword mace, 2 1h axe, put bleeds and weakness on then switch to 2x 1h axe. dance between these two for crazy adrenaline gain and crit damage bonus.

[url]http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=en&code=24ku01g1i1m3i1sbh00000[/url]

[url]http://www.gw2tools.com/calc/#t-w-fpaap:eaa.YZc.aaa.aaa.cXV[/url]