Guild Wars 2 V2: GOTY 2017 or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Arenanet
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I'm going to re-write that post because it's just a mess. So the main problem people are worrying about is whether or not people will be able to buy Gold with (real life) Money basically making the system Pay 2 Win (P2W).
First off think about what makes players 'Win' in this game. Is it their armor? Is it their skill? It's a combination of both, but the players skill is the most important part. You cannot buy skill. Also note that you cannot buy high-end armor and equipment with Gold either, it requires Karma!
Now think about people not buying armor or equipment but using Gold for materials or other items. What are the currencies used for?
Gold = Materials, etc
Gems = Cosmetic items (no attribute benefit)
Karma = high-end armor & equipment
There is not current way to trade either Gold or Gems for Karma (which is in turn the initial issue of P2W). ANet did their homework!
Those people who would pay (real life) Money to purchase Gems still wouldn't be P2W.
[QUOTE=Bullet100;35221468]I'm going to re-write that post because it's just a mess. So the main problem people are worrying about is whether or not people will be able to buy Gold with (real life) Money basically making the system Pay 2 Win (P2W).
First off think about what makes players 'Win' in this game. Is it their armor? Is it their skill? It's a combination of both, but the players skill is the most important part. You cannot buy skill. Also note that you cannot buy high-end armor and equipment with Gold either, it requires Karma!
Now think about people not buying armor or equipment but using Gold for materials or other items. What are the currencies used for?
Gold = Materials, etc
Gems = Cosmetic items (no attribute benefit)
Karma = high-end armor & equipment
There is not current way to trade either Gold or Gems for Karma (which is in turn the initial issue of P2W). ANet did their homework!
Those people who would pay (real life) Money to purchase Gems still wouldn't be P2W.[/QUOTE]
the in game store was always gonna be pay for non-essential items such as character slots or cosmetics. no stat alterations or boosters will be sold
glad that they stuck with what they promised
I feel sick to my stomach, knowing that others are downloading the beta. It kills me to see people getting into beta when they just heard about this game like 2 months ago. I've been hyping since the PC Gamer article in 2007. Feels bad man.
[QUOTE=psychojake;35222363]I feel sick to my stomach, knowing that others are downloading the beta. It kills me to see people getting into beta when they just heard about this game like 2 months ago. I've been hyping since the PC Gamer article in 2007. Feels bad man.[/QUOTE]
I sort of want to quote Razah here, but it'd be out of context. That's just life, as unfair and cruel and unjust as it is. Devs go by the logic of "Dedicated fans will get it anyway, so no need to worry about them getting in!" and all that hoohah.
I still frown.
[QUOTE=psychojake;35222363]I feel sick to my stomach, knowing that others are downloading the beta. It kills me to see people getting into beta when they just heard about this game like 2 months ago. I've been hyping since the PC Gamer article in 2007. Feels bad man.[/QUOTE]
rofl, relax.
I have been waiting just as long, I can wait another 30ish days for a beta since I will be pre-ordering just like most people here.
[QUOTE=psychojake;35222363]I feel sick to my stomach, knowing that others are downloading the beta. It kills me to see people getting into beta when they just heard about this game like 2 months ago. I've been hyping since the PC Gamer article in 2007. Feels bad man.[/QUOTE]
March 27, 2007... Yet my friend who just heard about this game and just started getting into MMO's BECAUSE OF ME is downloading his client as we speak.
Aaaagh... Pretty sure I won't be able to afford prepurchase... Damn you unpaid hospital volunteer work...
I'm too nice for my own good.
I was playing GW1 since the day 1, I was camping the doors to the shop before it was even open.
I've been playing 1 year with 2 friends, then another 1 year alone, when they decided to fuck it and move on.
Even though I didn't buy any expansion packs (only base Prophecies, as I thought I will quit in a week due to my friends not playing anymore...), still I enjoyed the hell out of it, even when all expansion were out, I was still playing PvP only and I've been competetive (though, only RA).
Since I heard GW2 I was spamming every friend about this game, to let them know, in order to have more mates to play with.
I've been reading all articles, watching all videos, listen to all interviews since beginning of the GW2.
I was even considering joining some 3D competition they had back there.
It was also the only beta for which I said "No way! I'm not cheating here, I will be signing up with a single mail and not using my 2 other prehistoric computers out there in order to get more crappy dxdiags"...
That's what I get.
Watching some 16 yo Justin Bieber cheering up on his twitter that he got into the freaking beta and I'm left here waiting till April the 10th while those crapfags get to play...
I feel like I would punch someone's face.
I'm sad :(
[QUOTE=psychojake;35222363]I feel sick to my stomach, knowing that others are downloading the beta. It kills me to see people getting into beta when they just heard about this game like 2 months ago. I've been hyping since the PC Gamer article in 2007. Feels bad man.[/QUOTE]
you're not the only person who's been waiting a long time for Guild Wars 2, shutup holy shit
Guys calm down.
Just think about how the fruits of your patience will be much sweeter for you than for those who haven't waited for as long.
Facepunch should all unite together under one banner on the same server and run it like kings.
Is there a planned Facepunch guild? We should make one if not. I'll totally join!
Since you can join multiple guilds, I'll definitely join a Facepunch guild.
I already have three guilds I'm joining. Although you have to remember that you can only represent one (display their emblem on armor/weapons).
Has a Facepunch guild / clan / server EVER worked out in the long run?
I doubt people will be representing the FP guild
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[QUOTE=SomeDumbShit;35223684]Has a Facepunch guild / clan / server EVER worked out in the long run?[/QUOTE]
No, but now it doesn't have to be an exclusive guild. People can go do whatever with their real guild, and then occasionally the FP guild might do something together
You guys are forgetting something...this is Guild Wars 2. It's not a game, it's a life. Think about how you folks keep returning to these forums every night. That is how it's going to be in Guild Wars 2...you won'y be able to resist!
[QUOTE=Bullet100;35223726]You guys are forgetting something...this is Guild Wars 2. It's not a game, it's a life. Think about how you folks keep returning to these forums every [B]night[/B]. That is how it's going to be in Guild Wars 2...you won'y be able to resist![/QUOTE]
Excuse me, you typo'd "The entire day".
Common mistake.
Official descriptions:
[QUOTE]Gold System - Standard MMO system that allows you to earn or spend money doing trades with other players.
Karma System - Cannot be traded but is in fact used only to purchased unique in-game items.
Gems - Currency that people will have to buy to used on their microtransaction purchases.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Miskav;35224020]Excuse me, you typo'd "The entire day".
Common mistake.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure some/most of us have somewhat normal lives.
After seeing some of the posts over the past few days, I doubt it :v:
Guild Wars 2 will become my new life, i intend to be reincarnated as a Keyboard Glove.
[QUOTE=Benstokes;35222861]Aaaagh... Pretty sure I won't be able to afford prepurchase... Damn you unpaid hospital volunteer work...
I'm too nice for my own good.[/QUOTE]
Just imagine if someone who's life you helped save is sitting on their laptop in a hospital ward going;
'Sweet! I got a beta invite from this Guild thingy!'
That's powerful
[QUOTE=Sickle;35224543]Just imagine if someone who's life you helped save is sitting on their laptop in a hospital ward going;
'Sweet! I got a beta invite from this Guild thingy!'[/QUOTE]
Hmmm... What are the chances I'd be able to emotionally blackmail them into giving it to me? I think pretty high, as long as they don't get the chance to play at all first. If they realize how awesome it is, even having saved their life won't be enough.
Just going to leave this here...
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[QUOTE=SomeDumbShit;35223684]Has a Facepunch guild / clan / server EVER worked out in the long run?[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the /v/ guilds. Sounds like a good idea at first.
[sp]But it never is.[/sp]
[QUOTE=SomeDumbShit;35223684]Has a Facepunch guild / clan / server EVER worked out in the long run?[/QUOTE]
Some guy on facepunch runs the largest empire in hazeron.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;35227838]Some guy on facepunch runs the largest empire in hazeron.[/QUOTE]
Thats not the same as a guild targeted directly at Facepunch members though.
The World of Tanks Facepunch guild has been around since guilds started.
i wonder who their select retailers will be, hate getting stuff online i have such bad luck with mail services. and seeming though GAME is going down the shitter im probably going to have to get it online :<
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