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[QUOTE=NoShogun;36757424]Yeah you're right you really opened my eyes to the fact that picking three AD heroes and losing against a champion whose sole purpose is to counter AD heroes is just broken. [/quote] I never first picked a Malphite back then, I picked him [i]after[/i] they lock in. I had a game where the enemy team was Kog'maw, Tryndamere jungle, and Fiora top. Guess which team won that. I was last pick. [quote]I now agree with you that Riven should be insta-win top and the meta should never ever ever change. What is an AP hero against armor stacking? What is positioning? What are assassins? Who is Lee Sin (60% AS slow as opposed to 50%)?[/QUOTE] What positioning? You literally cannot stop his ultimate short of killing him instantly as he casts it, he has an incredibly strong buff/debuff slow/haste spell to stay stuck, and with Randuin's Omen, Frozen Heart, and his Ground Slam, attack speed literally doesn't even exist around him anymore. What assassins? Malphite initiates and pressea on, he isn't there to peel people off his own AD carry. Heck, his ultimate is the only thing that even could do that. Lee Sin doesn't stack so much cooldown reduction that he can use it forever and whenever he wants. His also decreases over time instead of being a static value for the duration. Seriously, a late game match with a Malphite on it means one team has no AD carry, flat out. It's always been stupid strong, but now it's honestly just abused. In solo queue where people have no direction or effective teamplay for objectives and the games go on forever, this is incredibly prevalent - Not even just in low ELO or with 'noobz', even platinum ranked and competitive players have been saying that Malphite just does way too much.

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If your team is picking two or three AD autoattacking bruisers then why wouldn't you either pick or ban Malphite if that's what you want to do? If someone picked a team with two or three AP damage dealers and the enemy team picked Galio, no one would say Galio is OP. Yeah, Malph's initiation is awesome. Nine times out of ten, he'll be the one guy with the hard CC or ability to peel on his team, though. Unless a team is running something like Malph/Shen or something, that'll be their one really big AoE CC that's blown on your carry. And then Malphite can sit there and slow your AD's AS assuming you can't peel him off at all. And then once Malphite ults in, the team that gets ulted panics instead of realizing that the enemy team's meatshield is significantly weaker and that they can probably get a good kill or two out of the enemy team. If the non-Malphite team picks a burst assassin they can go for the carry, or the non-Malphite team could pick someone good at initiating or counter-initiating. Or, since the assassin and counter-initator roles don't overlap, the non-Malphite team could pick them both.

Wow, I just played TF2 with Siv HD. The real Siv HD. He just joined my server :v:

[QUOTE=NoShogun;36757589]If your team is picking two or three AD autoattacking bruisers then why wouldn't you either pick or ban Malphite if that's what you want to do?[/quote] This rounds back to what I said before - you either have to pick him or ban him. The current meta commonly has three auto-attacking AD's, and once again, even if the enemy team only has a single AD carry, Malphite will completely fuck them up come later game and a huge portion of the enemy's damage output disappears.

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[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;36757712]You're acting like there's 4 squishies and Malphite on one team. Burst assassins will probably get denied by the support while Malphite jams his fist up your carry's ass[/QUOTE] And also this. Alistar or Janna will just ruin your day.

[QUOTE=Exploits;36757702]This rounds back to what I said before - you either have to pick him or ban him. The current meta commonly has three auto-attacking AD's, and once again, even if the enemy team only has a single AD carry, Malphite will completely fuck them up come later game and a huge portion of the enemy's damage output disappears.[/QUOTE] Read what I posted. I said that if the enemy team is picking 3 AD autoattackers they either have to pick or ban him. That's because he hard counters that kind of hero. If a team is picking three of the same or very similar kind of heroes, they deserve to lose when the enemy team picks the obvious hard counter. And in this game CC is equally important to damage output. Your team trades their best candidate to protect their carry so they can try to shut down yours. And for all the bruiser players who QQ about Malphite, Renekton Riven Darius aren't even really that AA based and two of those guys have mobility. Oh god Malphite initiated on me I cannot comprehend the fact that his team is extremely open to counterinitiation.

[QUOTE=MrFlashcat;36757677]Wow, I just played TF2 with Siv HD. The real Siv HD. He just joined my server :v:[/QUOTE] I gave him a Strange Tribleman's Shiv which I unboxed :v:

[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;36757712]You're acting like there's 4 squishies and Malphite on one team. Burst assassins will probably get denied by the support while Malphite jams his fist up your carry's ass[/QUOTE] What if the unthinkable happened and the bursty character went top against malphite? He's not gonna be a free kill (although he's nowhere close to unkillable) but it's not like his Q has infinite range or damage. He'll run out of mana spamming Q before any assassin will.

I like his videos so why not? He's a nice guy. I'm not a greedy person that keeps everything he has for himself.

[QUOTE=MrFlashcat;36757770]I gave him a Strange Tribleman's Shiv which I unboxed :v:[/QUOTE] Why Hes not gonna put you on a video

[QUOTE=NoShogun;36757768]Oh god Malphite initiated on me I cannot comprehend the fact that his team is extremely open to counterinitiation.[/QUOTE] AND THEN OUT OF NOWHERE, JANNA PRESSES R . . .

[QUOTE=NoShogun;36757808]What if the unthinkable happened and the bursty character went top against malphite? He's not gonna be a free kill (although he's nowhere close to unkillable) but it's not like his Q has infinite range or damage. He'll run out of mana spamming Q before any assassin will.[/QUOTE] Vlad mid, blue team malph blue buff op

[QUOTE=NoShogun;36757808]What if the unthinkable happened and the bursty character went top against malphite? He's not gonna be a free kill (although he's nowhere close to unkillable) but it's not like his Q has infinite range or damage. He'll run out of mana spamming Q before any assassin will.[/QUOTE] So what, Akali or Talon? Talon wouldn't stand a chance, Akali might be feasible, but it still doesn't really matter since Malphite stacks health and gains an extra 10% on top with his passive. He's stupid tanky, stupid hard to burst. Send anyone else top lane and they probably just lose the lane period.

[QUOTE=Exploits;36757831]AND THEN OUT OF NOWHERE, JANNA PRESSES R . . .[/QUOTE] Good luck pressing r when knocked up

[QUOTE=Exploits;36757831]AND THEN OUT OF NOWHERE, JANNA PRESSES R . . .[/QUOTE] Yeah I mean when you give Malphite's team every possible advantage he seems kinda OP. Your team can pick Janna or something to counter him. Or Amumu or Galio or someone with good enough CC to punish them for throwing their lockdown machine at your AD carry.

[QUOTE=Megadick;36757858]Good luck pressing r when knocked up[/QUOTE] You're reading it wrong.

[QUOTE=Megadick;36757839]Vlad mid, blue team malph blue buff op[/QUOTE] This same logic again. "If we put a manaless mage mid so Malphite gets blue and pick Janna so they can't counterinitiate us..." Building a team around Malphite is gonna make him look strong as hell. Just like when people say Kog is OP when people focus an entire strategy around protecting him.

[QUOTE=NoShogun;36757867]Yeah I mean when you give Malphite's team every possible advantage he seems kinda OP.[/QUOTE] It's not even about giving him 'every' advantage. So your Malphite initiates. Your own AD carry stays back to do their job and the support protects them . . . Taric can stun/heal. Alistar can Headbutt and/or Pulverize/heal (Kinda but not really). Janna can slow/knock-up/knock back/shield. Lulu can slow/polymorph/shield/knock-up/slow/boost health. Soraka can burst heal + armor buff/silence. Blitzcrank can silence/knock-up/stun (His grab, dunno what to label it) and does overall pretty hefty burst. I'm probably missing someone here but suffice to say it isn't nearly as simple as you make it out to be. "Oh, Malphite did X! Now we just need to do Y!" And I'm not even including the jungler who, if needed, will also be off-tanking to protect the carry at times, and an AP carry who can do the same.

4 exp until level 30 :suicide: on the bright side i scrounged up enough ip to buy gangplank :pirate:

I forgot Leona. She's just three stuns so it's not hard to label for at least.

[QUOTE=Exploits;36757922]It's not even about giving him 'every' advantage. So your Malphite initiates. Your own AD carry stays back to do their job and the support protects them . . . Taric can stun/heal. Alistar can Headbutt and/or Pulverize/heal (Kinda but not really). Janna can slow/knock-up/knock back/shield. Lulu can slow/polymorph/shield/knock-up/slow/boost health. Soraka can burst heal + armor buff/silence. Blitzcrank can silence/knock-up/stun (His grab, dunno what to label it) and does overall pretty hefty burst. I'm probably missing someone here but suffice to say it isn't nearly as simple as you make it out to be. "Oh, Malphite did X! Now we just need to do Y!" And I'm not even including the jungler who, if needed, will also be off-tanking to protect the carry at times, and an AP carry who can do the same.[/QUOTE] And then the AP that your team has wrecks Malphite (if they didn't already wreck him in lane). And out of the supports you listed, Janna is still the best counterinitiator. Alistar's headbutt can push someone back but after he uses those two skills he's totally out of commission for a lot longer that it would take for the Q+W'd person on the other team to get back into the fight.

[QUOTE=Megadick;36757818]Why Hes not gonna put you on a video[/QUOTE] That wasn't even my intention.

Constantly increasing 5 min queue on PBE god damn riot had to release Eve/Twitch/Zyra at the same time

holy jungle speed batman [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frOmzifkHSs&feature=g-u-u[/media]

It feels like 2 new champions are coming out this patch. Eve and Zyra.

zyra's passive deals 99 + (25 x level) true damage which is 549 damage at level 18 pretty damn good i'd say

this patch may become the best patch in patching history of LoL so much content

Sounds fun!