League of Legends V22 - Welcome to the League of Draven
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i max q for cd
never get to use e anyways
[editline]29th June 2012[/editline]
in a gank you will be able to use Q many times if it's up a few levels
with E, half the time you'll miss, and the other half of the time you get it, but do less damage than 2 extra tumbluus anyway
oops let me rephrase that.
Do I level Silver bolts to 5 first, or Condemn? Depends on the enemy build right?
[QUOTE=polarbear.;36542253]oops let me rephrase that.
Do I level Silver bolts to 5 first, or Condemn? Depends on the enemy build right?[/QUOTE]
Depending on your lane comp.
I'd go Condemn first if you're confident and have a good lane mate (Blitz/Alistar/Leona) or Tumble first if you aren't confident, I wouldn't max your Silver Bolts until later when there's generally more armor around. The damage from your Tumble/Condemn will help a lot more early game, when there's a fuck-ton less armor because laning phase, than just maxing silver bolts first.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;36541525]Level 1 - Tumble
Level 2 - Condemn
Level 3 - Tumble / Silver Bolts
Level 4 - Tumble / Silver Bolts[/QUOTE]
People always complain about Vayne's early game. Get Tumble then Bolts then Condemn.
I literally never have a bad early lane phase as Vayne unless something really bad goes wrong. I cna poke hard, and I use tumble to secure +%dmg on the 3rd hits of Silver bolts.
My duolaner was actually going "wtf" in skype as I was raping people at level 2 with silver bolts. Vayne IMO is a super aggressive carry and should be played as such.
You shouldn't try to play the sustain and farm game, get in people's faces, QE them and let the W wreck them all day.
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weirdest game i ever won. expected to lose from the start
I repaired the game, and in the one game I played after doing so, I was still getting near-constant DCs, lag and crashes.
I'm sad. I just really wanna play. :(
I haven't had a single win in 3 days...
[QUOTE=acfan;36539877]he's a very fun but inferior ad carry due to lack of escape and his ult being a weaker ez ult [b]without it even being global[/b][/QUOTE]
. . . What the fuck is this?
A) It is global.
B) AD Ezreal's ult is [i]relatively[/i] weak due to it being magic damage and AD Ezreal rather clearly relies on armor penetration instead of magic. Not the case with Draven which, at late-game and a Last Whisper, hits for 1,000 damage easy on both strikes.
C) Draven still has higher potential single-target damage with his ultimate due to it being able to hit twice.
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dat skin
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ggg dwragons first game
Team tries to throw game. Opposition throws harder.
Nid goes "LOLO SERVER SHUTDOWN WILL BE A DRAW" we win and come out of game "server shutdown in 20 seconds".
A glorious day.
EDIT: Update coming to EUW finally it seems.
Well fuck. Was just in a game, which might've broken my lose spree.
[QUOTE=Exploits;36542852]. . . What the fuck is this?
A) It is global.
B) AD Ezreal's ult is [i]relatively[/i] weak due to it being magic damage and AD Ezreal rather clearly relies on armor penetration instead of magic. Not the case with Draven which, at late-game and a Last Whisper, hits for 1,000 damage easy on both strikes.
C) Draven still has higher potential single-target damage with his ultimate due to it being able to hit twice.[/QUOTE]
i misread, sorry
[QUOTE=Exploits;36542852]. . . What the fuck is this?
A) It is global.
B) AD Ezreal's ult is [i]relatively[/i] weak due to it being magic damage and AD Ezreal rather clearly relies on armor penetration instead of magic. Not the case with Draven which, at late-game and a Last Whisper, hits for 1,000 damage easy on both strikes.
C) Draven still has higher potential single-target damage with his ultimate due to it being able to hit twice.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention, you can guide your ult by moving and in general can aim it much more accurately than ezreal ult.
It just seem that riot is making better versions of existing champions at this stage. Darius, draven, nautilus etc...
draven is great
[QUOTE=polarbear.;36541046]he shits on everyone top
[editline]28th June 2012[/editline]
and is banned every draft/ranked game
[editline]28th June 2012[/editline]
and his ult is fucking gay as shit[/QUOTE]
Jax fucks him.
[QUOTE=mixshifter;36537248]thats kawaii and all but it doesnt change the fact that vayne is just overall very weak earlygame compared to other AD carries[/QUOTE]
I agree and disagree. I feel it's really how the player plays Vayne. Won a ranked game this morning as janna supporting vayne bottom lane against a Kog. We won the lane overall and vayne was always kept above 1/2 health when I was laned with her. I agree she can be weak early but I have seen a few instances where a vayne can really take hold of the lane fed or not.
[QUOTE=Terragen;36543522]I agree and disagree. I feel it's really how the player plays Vayne. Won a ranked game this morning as janna supporting vayne bottom lane against a Kog. We won the lane overall and vayne was always kept above 1/2 health when I was laned with her. I agree she can be weak early but I have seen a few instances where a vayne can really take hold of the lane fed or not.[/QUOTE]
Vayne has a lot of tools to outplay in lane. She can't outmuscle worth a damn, though. If she sits and just shoots at people in pokes instead of attempting to land three quick hits and/or a stun following through with quick play with her ult, she's worthless, really. A smart Vayne will still do well no matter what.
I saw a post on the League of Legends forum that I thought summed this all up nicely (And also made me lol);
"The difference between a good Vayne player and a bad Vayne player is really easy to see.
The difference between a good Graves player and a bad Graves player is non-existent."
[QUOTE=Exploits;36543595]
I saw a post on the League of Legends forum that I thought summed this all up nicely (And also made me lol);
"The difference between a good Vayne player and a bad Vayne player is really easy to see.
The difference between a good Graves player and a bad Graves player is non-existent."[/QUOTE]
Graves' kit is so easy to use compared to Vayne's.
[QUOTE=Jergee;36543644]Graves' kit is so easy to use compared to Vayne's.[/QUOTE]
You really can't fuck up with Graves. I mean yeah, there's definitely ways to play him [i]better[/i], but everything about him is foolproof. Free tankiness (On a fucking [i]carry[/i] no less), attack speed steroid that reduces cooldown with auto-attacks, team-wide slow and blind, and burst-caster spells. Even if your positioning is shit you can throw down a thousand free damage in a split second, readily-available repositioning and steroid, and you can shrug off some of the damage.
[editline]28th June 2012[/editline]
His difficulty rating bar should be a negative value.
[QUOTE=Exploits;36543808]You really can't fuck up with Graves. I mean yeah, there's definitely ways to play him [i]better[/i], but everything about him is full-proof. Free tankiness (On a fucking [i]carry[/i] no less), attack speed steroid that reduces cooldown with auto-attacks, team-wide slow and blind, and burst-caster spells. Even if your positioning is shit you can throw down a thousand free damage in a split second, readily-available repositioning and steroid, and you can shrug off some of the damage.
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Definitely. One of the strongest Ranged AD carries in the game is also one of the easiest to play. Sometimes he's just extremely rewarding to play for almost no reason.
[QUOTE=Big Ben;36542668]I repaired the game, and in the one game I played after doing so, I was still getting near-constant DCs, lag and crashes.
I'm sad. I just really wanna play. :([/QUOTE]
dude i have the same exact problems as you
before i was running this game with no dcs and 80 FPS on very high
then i went on yesterday and 20 FPS and constant dcs
riot why
Harder characters are always more rewarding to play though, easy characters generally lose effectiveness in the lategame
[QUOTE=Kondor58;36544436]Harder characters are always more rewarding to play though, easy characters generally lose effectiveness in the lategame[/QUOTE]
*Except for Graves.
I'm pretty sure Graves never loses effectiveness throughout the entire game.
ashe never loses her utility with q and ulti and shes easy as fcku
asdf i keep tumbling and getting stuck in the wall with vayne, roit fix gaem pls
[QUOTE=Kondor58;36544436]Harder characters are always more rewarding to play though, easy characters generally lose effectiveness in the lategame[/QUOTE]
i disagree. darius isn't exactly hard to play, neither is warwick, nor morgana, and they all have really good lategames (ww just becomes unkillable, shen tier)
[QUOTE=Flip pl;36544551]ashe never loses her utility with q and ulti and shes easy as fcku[/QUOTE]
she has no escape though so if you want to maximize her potential you need to take ghost and flash, which hinders your offensive capabilities by using both of those spells.
[QUOTE=Banana-man;36544676]i disagree. darius isn't exactly hard to play, neither is warwick, nor morgana, and they all have really good lategames (ww just becomes unkillable, shen tier)[/QUOTE]
If you're talking about damage then yeah sure, that's exactly why they are easy to build characters, but they have obvious downfalls like lack of mobility or utility
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