League of Legends V22 - Welcome to the League of Draven - Games

What's better for Vayne, BT -> PD -> IE (More midgame Sustain) or IE -> PD -> LW -> BT (Standard AD Carry)?

[QUOTE=NotMeh;36890098]What's better for Vayne, BT -> PD -> IE (More midgame Sustain) or IE -> PD -> LW -> BT (Standard AD Carry)?[/QUOTE] BT IMO cause of Tumble's scaling.

[QUOTE=jiggu;36889999]I am torn between Winged and Viscero, both look nice Also what was the ruckus about when Winged was released?[/QUOTE] it was supposed to be exclusive for polish beta players but somehow it got leaked

[QUOTE=HyperTH;36890028]I kind of liked the old one better.[/QUOTE] Yeah I liked being able to open up a page and see who x champion is both strong and weak against without having to scroll, the information was easy to read and lists let you see who is the highest and lowest at a glance, the new one has weird boxes that show who is the biggest counter in the top left and then there's no real indication as to how to read it without looking at all the numbers, its p dumb imo All they had to do was make the old one have the cd's and item counters to the right of the champion counters and it was fine

[QUOTE=Katsuie;36886748]Shen isn't even a good toplaner[/QUOTE] He's a good jungle though

So im watching dyrus's stream and he got hacked [img]http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/557/15332506.png[/img] GG 0 rp and 0 ip, 30 attack speed runes and other stuff

[QUOTE=Cheeseist;36890234]So im watching dyrus's stream and he got hacked [img]http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/557/15332506.png[/img] GG 0 rp and 0 ip, 30 attack speed runes and other stuff[/QUOTE] He looks like he's taking it well.

[QUOTE=polarbear.;36889726]Was the Ryze rework a buff or nerf?[/QUOTE]

poor dyrus it's almost like the time he didn't cover the admin password to Epik Gamers ventrilo and everyone signed into his admin account and banned everyone

he got his ip and stuff back just now, it's fine

[QUOTE=polarbear.;36890272]Was the Ryze rework a buff or nerf?[/QUOTE] I thought it was basically a damage nerf.

Ugh, am I the only one that finds Annie incredibly aggravating? She gets a mana refund on her Q to last hit and gather free stuns, yet she already has 625 range auto-attacks . . . Caitlyn has 650 for comparison. Why is she so forgiving with everything she does for the player, yet ridiculously strong against enemies?

[QUOTE=Exploits;36890367]Ugh, am I the only one that finds Annie incredibly aggravating? She gets a mana refund on her Q to last hit and gather free stuns, yet she already has 625 range auto-attacks . . . Caitlyn has 650 for comparison. Why is she so forgiving with everything she does for the player, yet ridiculously strong against enemies?[/QUOTE] She's designed to be "baby's first AP". [editline]23rd July 2012[/editline] I personally don't think it's good game design to create a champion like that but I can fully understand why they did it

[QUOTE=HyperTH;36890318]I thought it was basically a damage nerf.[/QUOTE] It was a bit of both, I suppose. RIOT realized that his ability to build tank and still do one of the highest DPS of any AP carry in the game was really dumb, so they shift his ratios around so that you still have to grab at least some raw AP.

[QUOTE=Egevened;36889648]try 2 dorans, then boots, then malady, then wits end, and only THEN go to build everything else, mallet, razor etc[/QUOTE] what don't build malady please. it literally doesn't synergize with your kit in the slightest. Just rush madred's razor and splitpush all day.

[QUOTE=HyperTH;36890387]She's designed to be "baby's first AP". [editline]23rd July 2012[/editline] I personally don't think it's good game design to create a champion like that but I can fully understand why they did it[/QUOTE] It's [i]terrible[/i] design.

wow don't build malady on anyone, crap item [editline]23rd July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Exploits;36890427]It's [i]terrible[/i] design.[/QUOTE] annie is mediocre

[QUOTE=iFail;36890417]what don't build malady please. it literally doesn't synergize with your kit in the slightest. Just rush madred's razor and splitpush all day.[/QUOTE] I thought Malady synergized well with high attack speed and on-hit effects, which I assumed Teemo possesses. I could be wrong though, don't play the little bugger.

I hope they rework Annie to make her less of a freakishly large mutated girl.

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36890436]annie is mediocre[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, I know she isn't up there in 2k ELO games hyper carrying everything around her, but still. They made a champion that's boring easy to play to ease people into a role, except once you're practiced with said role, there's no reason to move away from Annie since she has persistent potential AoE stuns, a game breaking ultimate, decent tankiness, free last hitting, and that ridiculous attack range.

i hope they turn her into an anime

I hate Annie for the same reasons I hate Graves, basically. Except I hate Graves a lot more.

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36890436]wow don't build malady on anyone, crap item [editline]23rd July 2012[/editline] annie is mediocre[/QUOTE] malady is a very good item dont shit on it in fact there is no thing such as a shit item, someone dissed nashors's "Homestuck in one sentence: ahha holy shit Homestuck in one sentence: "Is it a general consensus Nashor's Tooth is a terrible item? " Homestuck in one sentence: 2 agrees Protocol7: It's not good for anything Homestuck in one sentence: good for lux Homestuck in one sentence: it's the item that lux needs to farm minions Protocol7: My friend plays lux just fine without it and just uses abilities to farm Homestuck in one sentence: yeah its for that Homestuck in one sentence: see her E applies her passive on minions Homestuck in one sentence: it gives both attack speed and cdr" [editline]22nd July 2012[/editline] there is no bad item, only bad items for certain champions

no malady is shit, wits end is all you need

[QUOTE=mixshifter;36890496]I hope they rework Annie to make her less of a freakishly large mutated girl.[/QUOTE] Custom skins ftw [img]http://leaguecraft.com/uploads/TruFax/skins/1548.jpg[/img]

Yeah, seriously, don't bother with Malady. It isn't worth the cost, Wit's End gives more consistent DPS, and makes you tanky to boot. Unless you're running Magic Pen runes and Sorc Boots, Malady isn't going to do more for you than Wit's End. [editline]22nd July 2012[/editline] And I think we can all agree that Leviathan is a fucking awful item.

[QUOTE=Cheeseist;36890234]So im watching dyrus's stream and he got hacked [IMG]http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/557/15332506.png[/IMG] GG 0 rp and 0 ip, 30 attack speed runes and other stuff[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1JQgt.jpg[/IMG] HOH SHIT. not me btw

[QUOTE=Exploits;36890504]Oh yeah, I know she isn't up there in 2k ELO games hyper carrying everything around her, but still. They made a champion that's boring easy to play to ease people into a role, except once you're practiced with said role, there's no reason to move away from Annie since she has persistent potential AoE stuns, a game breaking ultimate, decent tankiness, free last hitting, and that ridiculous attack range.[/QUOTE] I feel like that itself is bad design, but I accept it because people demand Annie function as both a "baby's first AP" and a viable champion outside of just learning the ropes because having a champion that's only good for learning a role and then just being bad at actually performing it would be even worse game design.

[QUOTE=theshagged;36890556]Custom skins ftw [img]http://leaguecraft.com/uploads/TruFax/skins/1548.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I enjoy this concept a whole lot more.

[QUOTE=Repulsion;36889200]People say Viktor is subpar because his only two damage skills have pretty long cooldowns in comparison to other people's, right, and his ultimate is also subpar compared to a different one that does the same thing, right? Whose ult is that?[/QUOTE] Annie's and Rammus's ults are both better than his. His burst is also subpar. His laser does shitloads of damage if you get the augment, which sacrifices an item slot, and he also has no catching mechanism or way to stick to a target. You can get caught by Viktor, be super overextended, and then just walk away and there will be nothing he can do about it.