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[quote]Fixed a bug that was causing various Champions to become stuck in walls[/quote] yesssss time to feed less as vayne!

"you fucking suck shit at this game" "stop playing the game please" "why did you cast that spell" "why did you get a tango instead of pot" "why" "your build sucks" "..." and keep in mind these are FPers talking to each other. i would never talk down to people i queue up with in a condescending and intentionally hurtful way (only jokingly). [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] you guys are much better people :D

I fucking hate the dota 2 thread. It's full of assholes

I found it funny that riot thinks they're fixing the disconnect bug. I'm still being disconnected, all they fucking did was remove the "you have been disconnected" screen and auto-reconnects you. goddamit riot

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;36550914]I prefer LoL over Hon mainly because HoN has a horrible, horrible f2p model and even after 200 hours in HoN, teamfights still confuse the shit out of me sometimes. Dota 2 is by far better than HoN anyway LoL is casualized version of Dota. Less multitasking, simpler spells, easier to last hit, no hard counters, forgiving, no "weird" strategies like pulling, stacking etc. so start with LoL But please try Dota 2 one day because it's my favorite moba at the moment.[/QUOTE] I honestly think you can pull off a lot of weird strats in LoL, but no one is willing due to the meta. LoL at design promotes heavy experimentation. Runes/Masteries allow you to plug and chug new ways to play straight from lv1. The item builds focus on altering your stats, so you can allow your champs to be played in new ways. It's not like that in DotA or any other MOBA. However, DotA does have a TON of strategies and tactics, even if the pool of them is limited experimentation-wise. I overall feel it's a good game. On the topic of ragers, I have only 1 friend I ever play DotA with because unlike everyone else he's not a raging piece of shit. We're both fairly inexperienced with the game, but we outplay the majority of pubs because we bothered to practice. It's appalling how much some people rage in the DotA community.

[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;36551319]I honestly think you can pull off a lot of weird strats in LoL, but no one is willing due to the meta. LoL at design promotes heavy experimentation. Runes/Masteries allow you to plug and chug new ways to play straight from lv1. The item builds focus on altering your stats, so you can allow your champs to be played in new ways. It's not like that in DotA or any other MOBA. However, DotA does have a TON of strategies and tactics, even if the pool of them is limited experimentation-wise. I overall feel it's a good game. On the topic of ragers, I have only 1 friend I ever play DotA with because unlike everyone else he's not a raging piece of shit. We're both fairly inexperienced with the game, but we outplay the majority of pubs because we bothered to practice. It's appalling how much some people rage in the DotA community.[/QUOTE] DOTA has always been like that though even in the days of Warcraft III. I remember the first time I tried DOTA i literally was shunned, screamed at and told i was gonna be banned from warcraft just because I was new to that game. I am sure nothing has changed in this new DOTA cause the community for it was very "special".

[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;36551319]I honestly think you can pull off a lot of weird strats in LoL, but no one is willing due to the meta. [/QUOTE] By weird strategies I mean strategies that look like glitches, but they're actually features. Like I said, blocking creeps, pulling and stacking neutral creeps

[QUOTE=Terragen;36551404]DOTA has always been like that though even in the days of Warcraft III. I remember the first time I tried DOTA i literally was shunned, screamed at and told i was gonna be banned from warcraft just because I was new to that game. I am sure nothing has changed in this new DOTA cause the community for it was very "special".[/QUOTE] Honestly, no community should ever be THAT shitty, regardless of history. New people are going to want to play at one point or another and people need to be willing to accept that. [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Blueplastic;36551441]By weird strategies I mean strategies that look like glitches, but they're actually features. Like I said, blocking creeps, pulling and stacking neutral creeps[/QUOTE] Yea. LoL's design is more streamlined so things like that don't need to be taken into consideration, but that's the raw glory of DotA. That's what makes it such an interesting game to play.

i maek jok (everything mean i say is in jest flub fyi)

[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;36551690] Yea. LoL's design is more streamlined so things like that don't need to be taken into consideration, but that's the raw glory of DotA. That's what makes it such an interesting game to play.[/QUOTE] And those mechanics are just there to raise the skill ceiling, since you don't need to know a single one of those mechanics to play the game on a basic level and still have fun. There's so many specific and intricate details that sometimes veterans don't even know they existed. [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] also never get wriggle's on lee sin i just tried it and it sucked

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36551818]also never get wriggle's on lee sin i just tried it and it sucked[/QUOTE] Wriggles = Lifesteal and faster dragon For lane sin it's bad, for jungle sin it's good, but you have other options. [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] Also dat ward jump

i have just clocked in my 201st game as lee sin! hell yes

why would not get wriggles on lee

[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;36551847]Wriggles = Lifesteal and faster dragon For lane sin it's bad, for jungle sin it's good, but you have other options. [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] Also dat ward jump[/QUOTE] i feel like the 450 hp from double doran's + hog is much better than the 30 armor and 8% lifesteal and 3 damage combined, even the ward jump i never want to jungle when my hp bar is not dense, it just makes me feel bad for some reason, so i don't play aggressive as i can but fuck that ward jump is nice

[QUOTE=Zernbrog;36549770]Siv HD just posted this a little while ago. He brought up an interesting, yet annoying, concept to a support. [video=youtube;LFw-C__upQg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFw-C__upQg&feature=g-all-u[/video] I could never pull this off. I'd be dead constantly. I don't think the whole thing would work out to well because of the enemy aoes. Almost every champ has one. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE] I don't see the point in this. An active support helps your carry get kills, which in turn means more gold, making it easier for your carry to dominate the rest of the team. This will hurt the enemy carry, but won't do anything beneficial for yours. Deny them gold by killing them or harassing them. I love Siv HD's videos, but if you're going to play a meta lane, use a meta pick. You can see how easily this method is countered by a normal support, like Alistar.

and i don't autoattack enough to make use of the lifesteal anyways, the 6% +3%(masteries) from doran's blades is more than enough to sustain me in the jungle, and double doran's is much better buildup than the wriggles and i always feel like getting an assload of midgame items on lee sin, it just makes him so fucking good (phage, hexdrinker, brutalizer)

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36551887]i feel like the 450 hp from double doran's + hog is much better than the 30 armor and 8% lifesteal and 3 damage combined, even the ward jump i never want to jungle when my hp bar is not dense, it just makes me feel bad for some reason, so i don't play aggressive as i can but fuck that ward jump is nice[/QUOTE] The damage procs help kill dragon faster and you do get more lifesteal, even if the other stats are weak. Primarily you get it for jungling so dragon is easier to secure and so you can abuse the ward jumping.

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36551887]i feel like the 450 hp from double doran's + hog is much better than the 30 armor and 8% lifesteal and 3 damage combined, even the ward jump i never want to jungle when my hp bar is not dense, it just makes me feel bad for some reason, so i don't play aggressive as i can but fuck that ward jump is nice[/QUOTE] this is why youre flubascrub

[QUOTE=rilez;36551893]I don't see the point in this. An active support helps your carry get kills, which in turn means more gold, making it easier for your carry to dominate the rest of the team. This will hurt the enemy carry, but won't do anything beneficial for yours. Deny them gold by killing them or harassing them. I love Siv HD's videos, but if you're going to play a meta lane, use a meta pick. You can see how easily this method is countered by a normal support, like Alistar.[/QUOTE] Siv HD's videos are mainly ideas that he's tested a few times. It's basically pure theorycrafting. The point is that you are 100% able to deny people from clicking the minions and farming. Harassing and zoning can give similar results, but this strategy is just raw denying. May not be optimal but it's not meant to be. It's meant to try something different.

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36551908]and i don't autoattack enough to make use of the lifesteal anyways, the 6% +3%(masteries) from doran's blades is more than enough to sustain me in the jungle, and double doran's is much better buildup than the wriggles and i always feel like getting an assload of midgame items on lee sin, it just makes him so fucking good (phage, hexdrinker, brutalizer)[/QUOTE] HoG and Vamp. Scepter has more health and life steal for only 325g less. Vamp. can build into Wriggles which also negates the AD loss, while also giving you armor and faster clear time. Doran's are nice but I only find them useful if I'm dominating bot/top lane and I want to press an early advantage. [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=EvilShadow777;36552007]Siv HD's videos are mainly ideas that he's tested a few times. It's basically pure theorycrafting. The point is that you are 100% able to deny people from clicking the minions and farming. Harassing and zoning can give similar results, but this strategy is just raw denying. May not be optimal but it's not meant to be. It's meant to try something different.[/QUOTE] The thing I like most about his videos is that some of his alternative builds are viable. This is really easy to counter, and the same thing but better can be accomplished with a real support. Neat idea on paper, but it doesn't really work for me.

i dunno i always thought that wriggles has amazing synergy with lee

[QUOTE=Flip pl;36552088]i dunno i always thought that wriggles has amazing synergy with lee[/QUOTE] Getting Wriggles on Lee also lets you set up a free ward-jump

I don't want to go around beating a dead horse[sp]man[/sp] but hecarim support sounds like something that would work on paper but not in practice.

I have 25k IP so I guess I'm gonna buy some bitches. Viktor and Cassio are the last AP carries I don't have so which one should I get?

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36551881]why would not get wriggles on lee[/QUOTE] apparently 2 dorans is better if you're winning lane if i'm jungling i always get wriggles [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Blueplastic;36552240]I have 25k IP so I guess I'm gonna buy some bitches. Viktor and Cassio are the last AP carries I don't have so which one should I get?[/QUOTE] cassiopeia

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;36552240]I have 25k IP so I guess I'm gonna buy some bitches. Viktor and Cassio are the last AP carries I don't have so which one should I get?[/QUOTE] Viktor is a shuffling russian cyborg who shoots laser beams.

You know what's fucking amazing? AD Orianna. I NEVER EVER EVER lost lane as AD Orianna(actually, I never lost a game either). You're way too tanky(max E) and you deal massive damage. And I tried it because of this video: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaN6dg80Cps[/media] Seriously, try it. You wont regret it. [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=HyperTH;36552265]Viktor is a shuffling russian cyborg who shoots laser beams.[/QUOTE] But snake tits

[QUOTE=LinkMandos;36550409]Hey guys! Lately i've been tempted to try out a game such as LoL or HoN. But i can't really decide which one to try out. Is LoL "easier" to learn or HoN? I wanna learn the mechanics and have fun. What do you guys think i should pick?[/QUOTE]HoN is dying out, last time I tried to play there was like a 15 minute queue and only like 5000 people playing. [editline]30th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=rilez;36551893]I don't see the point in this. An active support helps your carry get kills, which in turn means more gold, making it easier for your carry to dominate the rest of the team. This will hurt the enemy carry, but won't do anything beneficial for yours. Deny them gold by killing them or harassing them. I love Siv HD's videos, but if you're going to play a meta lane, use a meta pick. You can see how easily this method is countered by a normal support, like Alistar.[/QUOTE] Nothing Siv does is good for your team, its just really fun.

[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;36551953]The damage procs help kill dragon faster and you do get more lifesteal, even if the other stats are weak. Primarily you get it for jungling so dragon is easier to secure and so you can abuse the ward jumping.[/QUOTE] i love my doran's blades too much to let go i've played lee with doran's blades for too many games, i cannot turn back at this point

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36552396]i love my doran's blades too much to let go i've played lee with doran's blades for too many games, i cannot turn back at this point[/QUOTE] ButwhynotbothMexicanGirl.jpg.mp3.flv I make wriggles and 2 doran's blades on many champs. Lee being one of them