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[QUOTE=NotAName;36914187]Why would you want to build an ad carry non-glass cannon? Buy a guardian angel if you die a lot.[/QUOTE] When your team sucks absolute dick and can't even act as meatshields. Happens quite frequently.

is critplank still good? if so how to build him

[QUOTE=OldFusion;36914144]Learn to dodge ffs, its a skillshot, has 20 seconds cooldown, has medium speed and is very thin.[/QUOTE] unless the guy you're playing against is complete shit, you WILL get caught out at least once. often more. It's not as simple as just 'dodging' it when that means you have to be constantly on your toes not only with last hitting and harrassing from the enemy ad, but also avoiding that goddamn pull.

[QUOTE=OldFusion;36914144]Learn to dodge ffs, its a skillshot, has 20 seconds cooldown, has medium speed and is very thin.[/QUOTE] You can just stand still and there's a 50% chance they'll miss

11/4/9 first game as nocturne daaaaahhhhhkneeessssssssssshhhhh

[QUOTE=Jund;36914322]You can just stand still and there's a 50% chance they'll miss[/QUOTE] i love it when my enemies do this, because usually early on i try to check if they do this, and if they do, i just stop leading them HEH

holy shit i think its impossible for me to get a good game as vayne every single game its either a leaver, lag, feeders, dodgers and everything else

[QUOTE=Banana-man;36914577]i love it when my enemies do this, because usually early on i try to check if they do this, and if they do, i just stop leading them HEH[/QUOTE] No I mean stand still for like 10 seconds [editline]24th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AzureAngelic;36914524]11/4/9 first game as nocturne daaaaahhhhhkneeessssssssssshhhhh[/QUOTE] Had a Noct that failed at ulting twice He would ult but wouldn't jump

god I just had a team that literally played worse than bots my retard Lulu support kept stealing my CS and never warded the lane retard Teemo fed cait 5/0 by 15 minutes and it was gg at that point there goes my victory streak

[img]http://puu.sh/LjjH[/img] Second game on this new computer computer, I think i did not bad for myself on a character i didn't know how to use while being on a lane by myself that isn't middle (For the majority of the time anyway, there was an Annie character who visited and tried to help but was underpowered by a bit). This is only my... 4th game ever? Second time playing with real players. Soon as finally get killed off, they basically won. Edit - Just noticed how both Annie's ended up feeding the teams or whatever.

Had an Ezreal yesterday that had muted everyone from the start of the game, and for about 10 minutes we were doing alright in bot, we even killed the two enemy laners bot. However, at this point, our Wukong says: "I can't top, if I stay top I will feed." So he dies, and comes bot, and thus begins 20 minutes of him typing "EZREALLLLL GO TOP!!!" in all caps all the time, and continually pinging ezreal and top lane. Ezreal couldn't hear him, though, and Wukong wouldn't leave bot lane, so I had to go top as Karma, versus Vayne and Volibear. This of course, did not go well. However, because their bot and mid lanes were clueless, our Warwick (who was jungling) was able to get very fed (and with my help) carried us to victory. Moral of the story: I hate people who whine more than I hate people who refuse to communicate.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;36914162]Is there a way to build Vayne non-glass cannon and still have decent lategame damage?[/QUOTE] I found out that at level 18, vayne with 223.23921 AS from items will have 2.5 attack speed. She gets 3.1% per level, 4% from masteries, and her base is .658 so you have 2.5/.658 and you get 380%, take off the base and you get that you need around 280% from all sources. 3.1*17+4 is 56.7%, so take that out and you get 223.23921% AS that you need to reach the cap and spam silver bolts. If you are laning with a nunu, who gets zekes, you need 223.23921-85=138.23921% bonus. Wit's end, Madreds, Zerks, Trinity with 1 AS quint and you're at the cap. Then you could get Atmog's or something. You'd have +1350 hp or so, +70 armor, +50 MR. If you get a full attack speed reds and quints, you won't need the zerks and can get merc treads. Basically metagolem vayne, replacing frozen mallet with madred's and wit's end. If you don't have nunu support then get an ionic spark instead of warmogs. This is just to get to the cap, if you don't mind having like 2.351 then you can get mercs

just had a game with a darius that went 4/11 how do you go 4/11 as FUCKING [B]DARIUS[/B] im done with league for the day and its not even 12 yet [editline]24th July 2012[/editline] and he rushed PD

[QUOTE=Megadick;36915056]I found out that at level 18, vayne with 223.23921 AS from items will have 2.5 attack speed. She gets 3.1% per level, 4% from masteries, and her base is .658 so you have 2.5/.658 and you get 380%, take off the base and you get that you need around 280% from all sources. 3.1*17+4 is 56.7%, so take that out and you get 223.23921% AS that you need to reach the cap and spam silver bolts. If you are laning with a nunu, who gets zekes, you need 223.23921-85=138.23921% bonus. Wit's end, Madreds, Zerks, Trinity with 1 AS quint and you're at the cap. Then you could get Atmog's or something. You'd have +1350 hp or so, +70 armor, +50 MR. If you get a full attack speed reds and quints, you won't need the zerks and can get merc treads. Basically metagolem vayne, replacing frozen mallet with madred's and wit's end. If you don't have nunu support then get an ionic spark instead of warmogs. This is just to get to the cap, if you don't mind having like 2.351 then you can get mercs[/QUOTE] sounds sweet now if I had enough IP for those expensive quints :<

[QUOTE=Megadick;36915056]I found out that at level 18, vayne with 223.23921 AS from items will have 2.5 attack speed. She gets 3.1% per level, 4% from masteries, and her base is .658 so you have 2.5/.658 and you get 380%, take off the base and you get that you need around 280% from all sources. 3.1*17+4 is 56.7%, so take that out and you get 223.23921% AS that you need to reach the cap and spam silver bolts. If you are laning with a nunu, who gets zekes, you need 223.23921-85=138.23921% bonus. Wit's end, Madreds, Zerks, Trinity with 1 AS quint and you're at the cap. Then you could get Atmog's or something. You'd have +1350 hp or so, +70 armor, +50 MR. If you get a full attack speed reds and quints, you won't need the zerks and can get merc treads. Basically metagolem vayne, replacing frozen mallet with madred's and wit's end. If you don't have nunu support then get an ionic spark instead of warmogs. This is just to get to the cap, if you don't mind having like 2.351 then you can get mercs[/QUOTE] Overestimating the W proc damage and building AS/on-hit = shit damage vs. cookie cutter build.

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36915298]Overestimating the W proc damage and building AS/on-hit = shit damage vs. cookie cutter build.[/QUOTE] Its a build for Top/Mid not bot. You get other stats in return.

her W is the most overestimated skill on her. just because it says "true damage" and "%hp" doesn't mean that it's necessarily the best part of her kit, especially because if you break the numbers down and see what they mean in a realistic scenario, it's just underwhelming. [editline]24th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=OldFusion;36915336]Its a build for Top/Mid not bot. You get other stats in return.[/QUOTE] for top/mid, building standard vayne is just as good you don't always need to switch builds if you're going to different lanes. it doesn't matter what you build as an AD carry in early to midgame, you will not be able to win a trade or 1v1 with any tanky dps or ap carry in that timeframe, so you have to just suck it up and try to farm and wait until lategame to wreck them

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36915386]her W is the most overestimated skill on her. just because it says "true damage" and "%hp" doesn't mean that it's necessarily the best part of her kit, especially because if you break the numbers down and see what they mean in a realistic scenario, it's just underwhelming. [editline]24th July 2012[/editline] for top/mid, building standard vayne is just as good you don't always need to switch builds if you're going to different lanes. it doesn't matter what you build as an AD carry in early to midgame, you will not be able to win a trade or 1v1 with any tanky dps or ap carry in that timeframe, so you have to just suck it up and try to farm and wait until lategame to wreck them[/QUOTE] Are you stupid? its a build made to fill a different role.

it's not remotely optimal vayne doesn't have the CC/ innate tankyness to be a tanky dps, so she needs to build surviability items to become tanky, but she needs many damage items to deal lots of damage, otherwise she will deal mediocre damage, while other tanky dpses can deal lots of damage with mostly tanky items.

[QUOTE=OldFusion;36915437]Are you stupid? its a build made to fill a different role.[/QUOTE] wow yeah you're right let me just build Veigar as a bruiser and play him top, it's going to be completely viable because I'm using a bruiser build

holy shit ok fine I'll just go with standard glasscannon build, seems to well work anyway if you watch your positioning and use your stealth well in teamfights

[img]http://i.imgur.com/mw3x0.jpg[/img] i love the smell of a team who doesn't build mr in the morning

God damn I hate when Vayne's Condemn lands the enemy 1 inch away from the wall and much closer to an escape route.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;36915535]wow yeah you're right let me just build Veigar as a bruiser and play him top, it's going to be completely viable because I'm using a bruiser build[/QUOTE] Except it would probably work fine. Optimal? No. Viable? Yes. Huge ass 2.5 second stuns are pretty fatal.

[QUOTE=Oliolio;36915759]Except it would probably work fine. Optimal? No. Viable? Yes. Huge ass 2.5 second stuns are pretty fatal.[/QUOTE] and while you have one stun you have three other abilities that go out the window

[QUOTE=Protocol7;36915864]and while you have one stun you have three other abilities that go out the window[/QUOTE] You mean the high base damage spells that scale with last hits, and an ult that scales on your opponents AP?

and are all things that scale much better with AP items. if you're building bruiser you won't be last hitting with your Q most of the time

[QUOTE=Oliolio;36915759]Except it would probably work fine. Optimal? No. Viable? Yes. Huge ass 2.5 second stuns are pretty fatal.[/QUOTE] I've tried it It sucks

[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/x2wsy/aphromoo_leaves_tsmevo/[/url] im crying

I don't think Vayne's % damage is anti-fun. You need skill as Vayne to not be caught out, and stuff.