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Flash nerf would make Ghost more popular I guess.

[QUOTE=Laferio;36927937]I want old gangplank back. I also want a fucking commisar skin- how was this NOT DONE YET.[/QUOTE] fuck the commisar skin we need gangsta gangplank.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;36934025]that flash nerf would basically ruin 70% of AD carries[/QUOTE] it's not a good thing when you rely on a summoner spell to play a champion well, they are there to only enhance the champions. also, random fun fact: it takes at least 3293 games (assuming you win all of them, and not including first win bonuses) to unlock every champion with IP only

changing flash to only work after not taking damage for x seconds would mean a rise in poke teams. think about it - in those pre-teamfight moments when you're staring down the other team, people often throw spears, rockets or autoattacks at each other just to whittle away their health before either team jumps in to initiate. If flash can only work after a certain not-being-attacked time, then poke comps will become hilariously strong. See that galio? just constantly throw occasional shit at him and he can never initiate. Gapclosers, dashes, long range abilities will all become insanely powerful because they will remove some enemies only way of initiating and escaping. Flash is such an integral part of the game that nerfing or changing it in any way is simply pointless. They've tried.

[QUOTE=Soldier32;36934068]fuck the commisar skin we need gangsta gangplank.[/QUOTE] glockplank

[img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/184/701/1318370100082.jpg[/img] remember this [editline]25th July 2012[/editline] remember when atmas was a viable item remember guys

[QUOTE=papaya;36934734] remember when atmas was a viable item remember guys[/QUOTE] wait what

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Icg7W.png[/IMG] 2nd game as Lulu, looks like she's my support. We were like 20/9 lane phase but then made a great comeback. Dunno how to build her though, I just mainly buy random generic support stuff.

Atmas is viable its just not a first buy anymore

[QUOTE=Shortyish;36934390]it's not a good thing when you rely on a summoner spell to play a champion well, they are there to only enhance the champions. also, random fun fact: it takes at least 3293 games (assuming you win all of them, and not including first win bonuses) to unlock every champion with IP only[/QUOTE] Since I decided to never blow any money on video games anymore (meaning no RP)... I'm gonna have a hard time.

[QUOTE=papaya;36934469]changing flash to only work after not taking damage for x seconds would mean a rise in poke teams. think about it - in those pre-teamfight moments when you're staring down the other team, people often throw spears, rockets or autoattacks at each other just to whittle away their health before either team jumps in to initiate. If flash can only work after a certain not-being-attacked time, then poke comps will become hilariously strong. See that galio? just constantly throw occasional shit at him and he can never initiate. Gapclosers, dashes, long range abilities will all become insanely powerful because they will remove some enemies only way of initiating and escaping. Flash is such an integral part of the game that nerfing or changing it in any way is simply pointless. They've tried.[/QUOTE] honestly, i wouldn't mind having flash removed all together and getting a blink item. you literally see flash being picked by nearly everyone each game, and is a main reason to why the meta is so ass-backwards and frustrating to deal with. transferring flash to an item would effectively nerf every ad carry, making them buy the item if they desperately need it, while at the same time nerfing everyone else not being able to simply flash away and get away from what would be a great gank. i'm convinced that riot only made flash a summoner spell to act different from the dota scene since they have a blink item as well, but at this point it would be better for everyone if we got a flash item and flash was taken out as a summoner spell.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;36935162] 2nd game as Lulu, looks like she's my support. We were like 20/9 lane phase but then made a great comeback. Dunno how to build her though, I just mainly buy random generic support stuff.[/QUOTE] Philo Stone + Heart of Gold because those are delicious items. Ionian Boots unless Merc Treads are essential. Work for a Morello's at some point if you get Mercs (to make up the Cooldown Reduction). Shurelia's Reverie & Aegis are great choices. After that, just sorta respond to what's needed: Will of The Ancients, Morello's Evil Tome, Abyssal Scepter, Locket of The Iron Solari, Zeke's Herald (if lots of auto-attackers), Unholy Grail if constantly out of mana (when you damn need some). Those are all solid choices. When you have max CDR, you just crap so much support the enemy team cries tears.

[QUOTE=Shortyish;36935902]honestly, i wouldn't mind having flash removed all together and getting a blink item. you literally see flash being picked by nearly everyone each game, and is a main reason to why the meta is so ass-backwards and frustrating to deal with. transferring flash to an item would effectively nerf every ad carry, making them buy the item if they desperately need it, while at the same time nerfing everyone else not being able to simply flash away and get away from what would be a great gank. i'm convinced that riot only made flash a summoner spell to act different from the dota scene since they have a blink item as well, but at this point it would be better for everyone if we got a flash item and flash was taken out as a summoner spell.[/QUOTE] Removing flash would just make champions with a dash stronger.

[QUOTE=ZestyLemons;36936022]Removing flash would just make champions with a dash stronger.[/QUOTE] So many Champions have escapes right now, it's not just limited to AD Carries as should be expected. Almost every champion has an ability that either gets them away from a fight or makes it harder for attackers to reach them.

guys do you like AS vayne or standard ad carry vayne i currently build her like this: mercs, wits end, madreds, black cleaver, bloodthirster, situational

[QUOTE=Fenriswolf;36936099]guys do you like AS vayne or standard ad carry vayne i currently build her like this: mercs, wits end, madreds, black cleaver, bloodthirster, situational[/QUOTE] that's basically almost a standard cookie cutter AD carry build

no im saying, my build vs zerks, PD, IE, BT, Last whisper, Ga/qss cus i've been having a lot of success with my build as i feel it really counters a lot of the tanky meta because it makes you a bit tanky but also rips through anyone that is stacking health

[QUOTE=Fenriswolf;36936186]no im saying, my build vs zerks, PD, IE, BT, Last whisper, Ga/qss[/QUOTE] Depends on how effective it's working in game. That is to say, if you can do well with it, or even better than your enemy if they're building the standard AD carry.

[QUOTE=Fancy Cakes;36936207]Depends on how effective it's working in game. That is to say, if you can do well with it, or even better than your enemy if they're building the standard AD carry.[/QUOTE] okay cus every game i've used this build i've been able to 1v1 enemy carry no problem

[QUOTE=Fenriswolf;36936210]okay cus every game i've used this build i've been able to 1v1 enemy carry no problem[/QUOTE] You should be able to do this if they aren't fed to hell anyway.

[QUOTE=Fenriswolf;36936210]okay cus every game i've used this build i've been able to 1v1 enemy carry no problem[/QUOTE] Sounds perfectly fine to me in that regard, then. And, you know, if you find something that works better, swap to that. Adapt to the situation, etc.

Good heavens why would you build that over the standard ad carry build

[QUOTE=Katsuie;36936287]Good heavens why would you build that over the standard ad carry build[/QUOTE] on kog maw madred's is legit 10% of their hp per hit? Dayum

[QUOTE=Megadick;36936384]on kog maw madred's is legit 10% of their hp per hit? Dayum[/QUOTE] Madreds is laughable compared to other items unless the enemy team has for some reason 5 people with 4k health and 200 armor

nocturne is really fun, is he as good at jungle as other champions?

you mean you're not jungling as him or what and yes he is

i jungled as him ofc but I haven't jungled with anyone other than fiddle so I'm not sure what to expect [editline]26th July 2012[/editline] I got someone to leash blue to start, then by the time I got red I expected to be a little ahead for a gank but I was only just keeping up with the team

[QUOTE=krail9;36936532]i jungled as him ofc but I haven't jungled with anyone other than fiddle so I'm not sure what to expect [editline]26th July 2012[/editline] I got someone to leash blue to start, then by the time I got red I expected to be a little ahead for a gank but I was only just keeping up with the team[/QUOTE] Nocturne is one of THE best junglers ATM Junglers are always suppost to be behind the lanes, unless you mean your behind bot lane, then wtf are you jungling

i want to get lee sin since hes on sale. i saw that video where he does amazing ganks as a jungler, seems pretty fun to play

the black cleaver is actually a really good item i read it somewhere