League of Legends V22 - Welcome to the League of Draven

[Blueplastic]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/QRY4Z.jpg[/img]

[Jund]

Dang, Diana's passive seems pretty strong

35 less damage than Jax's ult at 6, 15 more at 13, 70 more at 18
Plus it's aoe and doesn't reset

[Bicko]

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;36980001][img]http://i.imgur.com/QRY4Z.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

Garen, Darius and Lee Sin should also have that.

[Jund]

[QUOTE=Bicko Blicko;36980034]Garen, Darius and Lee Sin should also have that.[/QUOTE]

Garen's and Lee Sin's ults don't do true damage though

[spii0]

[QUOTE=Flip pl;36979520]a good soraka will always stay behind the carry[/QUOTE]

I don't think that's true but I don't know enough about soraka to dispute it

With other supports you typically try and force the enemy to harass you over your carry which also means you're in front of your carry

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Jund;36980020]Dang, Diana's passive seems pretty strong

35 less damage than Jax's ult at 6, 15 more at 13, 70 more at 18
Plus it's aoe and doesn't reset[/QUOTE]

i never thought about it that way, actually

but she's an ap carry so she really won't have that much attack speed
(don't mention nashor please please please)

hell i want to build her as AD or onhit simply because her blade and attack animation is so fucking cool

[editline]29th July 2012[/editline]

i'm sure wit's end would be reasonable on her even if you build her ap

[Exploits]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36980152]i never thought about it that way, actually

but she's an ap carry so she really won't have that much attack speed
(don't mention nashor please please please)

hell i want to build her as AD or onhit simply because her blade and attack animation is so fucking cool

[editline]29th July 2012[/editline]

i'm sure wit's end would be reasonable on her even if you build her ap[/QUOTE]

I wish there was a way to itemize for her to better use her passive that wasn't a Nashor's Tooth, but it's that or Malady. Or Rageblade.

[spii0]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36980152]i never thought about it that way, actually

but she's an ap carry so she really won't have that much attack speed
(don't mention nashor please please please)

hell i want to build her as AD or onhit simply because her blade and attack animation is so fucking cool

[editline]29th July 2012[/editline]

i'm sure wit's end would be reasonable on her even if you build her ap[/QUOTE]

Wits end or ionic spark do a ton of damage with magic pen runes/masteries so that would be good, trinity would be nice too but it's so expensive

[jiggu]

Where can you see that numbers on her passive? I've been looking everywhere for it.

[Ninny]

[QUOTE=jiggu;36980243]Where can you see that numbers on her passive? I've been looking everywhere for it.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Diana_the_Scorn_of_the_Moon[/url]

[NoShogun]

[QUOTE=Laferio;36976592]I say he needs a buff.

buff lee sin 2012

[editline]28th July 2012[/editline]

scale his Q far better, up base armor and magic resist, and base attack damage. buff his passive like what it was before.

[editline]28th July 2012[/editline]

his fucking R doesn't need any scaling.[/QUOTE]

It's so unfair that there's a phase of the game Lee isn't godlike in omg

[mixshifter]

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;36980001][img]http://i.imgur.com/QRY4Z.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Imagine if they did that for Darius...

[Ninny]

wtf those numbers are huge

[NoShogun]

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36980253][url]http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Diana_the_Scorn_of_the_Moon[/url][/QUOTE]

I miss old passives that were passive instead of entire abilities like this.

[Exploits]

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36980259]wtf those numbers are huge[/QUOTE]

Especially for a passive.

[venn178]

Thinking about trying her on-hit with Malady and Wit's End.

Also maybe she'll actually work with Nashor's Tooth? Has the day finally come?

[Cyclocius]

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;36980001][img]http://i.imgur.com/QRY4Z.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

That is so goddamn useful. I'm always frantically clicking targets and checking the damage my Ult deals. Hurrah for ease of use!

[Exploits]

[QUOTE=venn178;36980280]Thinking about trying her on-hit with Malady and Wit's End.

Also maybe she'll actually work with Nashor's Tooth? Has the day finally come?[/QUOTE]

So far for her jungle I've been wondering how good she is without a blue buff. She seems to clear small camps incredibly well with just a single cast of Crescent Strike and auto-attacks with her passive. At level 6, if Crescent Strike is being maxed first, a full combo gank with her (Q+R+E+W) will use 235 mana by itself, not including possible follow-up casts of any of the spells, which is just about 50% of her mana pool at that point. That's really efficient.

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=venn178;36980280]Thinking about trying her on-hit with Malady and Wit's End.

Also maybe she'll actually work with Nashor's Tooth? Has the day finally come?[/QUOTE]

never

wit's end basically gives 126 damage per 3 hits, which is worth 210 AP, and it gives magic resist and it's much cheaper

nashor's tooth is just expensive and shitty

[editline]29th July 2012[/editline]

sheen would be cool since you can use her ult twice in a short window

[Exploits]

It still begs the question though - Philosopher Stone, or Chalice of Harmony into an Athene's Unholy Grail? I picture myself building her like this;

Boots + 3 > Ninja Tabi's
Kage's Lucky Pick > Deathfire's Grasp
Chalice of Harmony > Athene's Unholy Grail
Giant's Belt > Rylai Scepter
Rabadon's Deathcap
Void Staff

[venn178]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36980384]never

wit's end basically gives 126 damage per 3 hits, which is worth 210 AP, and it gives magic resist and it's much cheaper

nashor's tooth is just expensive and shitty

[editline]29th July 2012[/editline]

sheen would be cool since you can use her ult twice in a short window[/QUOTE]

Mm I'm smelling a Lich Bane in my future.

[Exploits]

Wow, the cooldown on Moonfall is [i]fucking huge[/i]. Cooldown: 26 / 24 / 22 / 20 / 18 seconds

[venn178]

Just like Darius' grab.

[Katsuie]

[QUOTE=cyclocius;36980353]That is so goddamn useful. I'm always frantically clicking targets and checking the damage my Ult deals. Hurrah for ease of use![/QUOTE]

This was added about a year ago, how did you people not notice it before?

[Exploits]

[QUOTE=venn178;36980432]Just like Darius' grab.[/QUOTE]

Cooldown: 24 / 21 / 18 / 15 / 12 seconds

Even he has it better.

[Ninny]

except hers is an aoe around her that also slows so ofc its gonna have a longer cd

[Cyclocius]

[QUOTE=Katsuie;36980464]This was added about a year ago, how did you people not notice it before?[/QUOTE]

I tend not to notice things unless I'm looking for them, missing champions, channeled abilities etc, not a little ring about someones feet.

[venn178]

[QUOTE=Exploits;36980483]Cooldown: 24 / 21 / 18 / 15 / 12 seconds

Even he has it better.[/QUOTE]

Well hers is going to be used almost exclusively for ganks while jungling, so it doesn't need that short of a cooldown.

[Exploits]

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36980498]except hers is an aoe around her that also slows so ofc its gonna have a longer cd[/QUOTE]

Yeah but as her one ganking tool, that's incredibly punishing. Especially since she's being sold as a jungler.

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36980498]except hers is an aoe around her that also slows so ofc its gonna have a longer cd[/QUOTE]

but lategame, isn't that just the same thing as suicide?

[editline]29th July 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Exploits;36980538]Yeah but as her one ganking tool, that's incredibly punishing. Especially since she's being sold as a jungler.[/QUOTE]

she has 2 dashes though, so if she can just deal tons of damage, even if u miss the thing it might be ok