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My numbers estimate that 120% of your friends are bad [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] You should check with flub though

Seriously, does anyone buy Atma's anymore? [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] besides on Vladimir

Wish riot would hurry up and fix the friends list

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;37122749]Seriously, does anyone buy Atma's anymore? [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] besides on Vladimir[/QUOTE] no because nerf=nonviable according to lol community

Holy [i]shit[/i] this log-in theme.

[QUOTE=DarkZero135;37122784]no because nerf=nonviable according to lol community[/QUOTE] no because nerf=made it shit

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;37122749]Seriously, does anyone buy Atma's anymore? [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] besides on Vladimir[/QUOTE] I buy it on Shyvana, Nocturne, Jarvan, and even Irelia at times, of the ones I can remember. It's not core anymore, it's situational, and it comes after a tanky-hp item instead of before. Basically, Fratma's. [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Feralicous;37122898]no because nerf=made it shit[/QUOTE] It didn't make it shit, it just made it less ridiculously good. It used to be worth buying (Cost-effective) if you had 1,700 health, which is literally any tanky character in the game with base stats alone. Now you need 2,500, meaning you have to itemize.

Atmogs is still strong as fuck, what are you guys talking about?

[QUOTE=Flip pl;37121860]wow really diana zyra and darius have no unique PLAYSTYLE, diana plays like akali (builds too) zyra is a better heimerdinger and darius is a modified garen the only unique champ lately is draven[/QUOTE] Yeah my complaint was more about the playstyle of most champs. Orianna's playstyle is one of the only completely unique and unmatched ones. Riot needs to come up with something completely new, a completely original mechanic that allows for a new playstyle. As another example I can provide Invoker from DOTA/DOTA 2 (YES I know, the original guy was designed by Guinsoo and NO I'm not saying that they should bring Invoker into League, definitely not) But mixing spells/elements to create different abilities? That's AWESOME and something original like that is what League needs.

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;37122749]Seriously, does anyone buy Atma's anymore?[/QUOTE] It's one of those things where the community hears it has gotten nerfed and decides it's worthless and bad out of nowhere Wasn't ap sion hugely popular before his ratios were dropped by a massive 0.1

fine, not shit, but much worse. it was nerfed enough to make other builds better, which is why it's unpopular now

so i was crafting some diana builds does RoA>Nashors>Deathcap>Lich Bane> something else sound good?

[QUOTE=DarkZero135;37123360]so i was crafting some diana builds does RoA>Nashors>Deathcap>Lich Bane> something else sound good?[/QUOTE] Rylai instead of Rod of Ages, 100%.

i feel like a good diana build would be: rylais malady sorc shoes rabadons lich bane GA or some other defensive item

so would malady or nashors tooth be a better as item?

I think wit's end would be better than both due to the MR, but Malady might be viable. Nashor's is too expensive for the little amount of stuff it does.

[QUOTE=DarkZero135;37123570]so would malady or nashors tooth be a better as item?[/QUOTE] neiter

wits end on diana op [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] you can build 0 ap and wreck shit if you build right

Just Copy a fizz build, being an AP assasin doesn't involve autoattacking people much and doing so means you stick around for too long means you will die. For solo lane: boots Dorans(x2) + Lucky pick sheen deathcap lich bane / rylais / abysal / guardian angel / dfg (situational order) Just like akali/talon/nasus/irelia/wukong in the jungle its a fine jungle but teamfights are kill or get killed. And having less gold/xp because you are jungling means you will die.

I was playing diana in blind pick jungling against another jungler diana He rushed RoA into rabadons I rushed malady into rylais and nashors (which in hindsight should be a wit's end or lich bane) I obviously won [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=OldFusion;37123883]Just Copy a fizz build, being an AP assasin doesn't involve autoattacking people much and doing so means you stick around for too long means you will die. For solo lane: boots Dorans(x2) + Lucky pick sheen deathcap lich bane / rylais / abysal / guardian angel / dfg (situational order) Just like akali/talon/nasus/irelia/wukong in the jungle its a fine jungle but teamfights are kill or get killed. And having less gold/xp because you are jungling means you will die.[/QUOTE] noooooooope attack speed is so much more important on her

[QUOTE=Exploits;37122913]I buy it on Shyvana, Nocturne, Jarvan, and even Irelia at times, of the ones I can remember. It's not core anymore, it's situational, and it comes after a tanky-hp item instead of before. Basically, Fratma's. [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] It didn't make it shit, it just made it less ridiculously good. It used to be worth buying (Cost-effective) if you had 1,700 health, which is literally any tanky character in the game with base stats alone. Now you need 2,500, meaning you have to itemize.[/QUOTE] Fratmas is terrible compared to atmogs. I remember reignofgaming did a whole article or whatever about it.

atma is core on dunkmaster sion

[QUOTE=Soldier32;37123909]Fratmas is terrible compared to atmogs. I remember reignofgaming did a whole article or whatever about it.[/QUOTE] It's situational, if you're playing a champion that normally has to have red then fratmas is infinitely better than atmogs, if you just want maximum ad then atmogs is better

[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/IMG] for Nautilus [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/cross.png[/img] for Vlad

[QUOTE=polarbear.;37124038][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img] for Nautilus [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/cross.png[img] for Vlad[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/cross.png[img]

i bought diana with RP still have 6500 IP, not sure what other champ i want.

well it's settled im buying 7 ryzes

Diana is badass and I like her. Rushed Rylais, always chase, never leave.

I ran a bot game since I can't play a real one yet, with Diana I did; Cloth + 5 start Cloth > Ninja Tabi Kage's Lucky Pick Chalice of Harmony From here I had pretty much zero mana problems and could use a Crescent Strike and Pale Cascade at every camp without worry, along with 100~ armor and magic resist, which is respectably tanky, especially with a refreshing shield mechanic. Afterwards; Rylai Crystal Scepter Rabadon's Deathcap Chalice of Harmony > Athene's Unholy Grail Void Staff I ended up selling Kage's Lucky Pick and picked up a Will of the Ancient, the added sustain let me solo Baron at the 30 minute mark, but I'm dubious of it. Spellvamp doesn't proc off her passiveand her Q and W give reduced amounts due to being AoE. But yeah, still, solo'd Baron with an AP Champion, is pretty cool. You could otherwise upgrade Kage's Lucky Pick into a Deathfire's Grasp to better fulfill the role of a burst assassin, or you could sell it into, as said, WotA or Zhonya's Hourglass. Full build at the end; Ninja Tabi's/Mercury's Treads Athene's Unholy Grail Will of the Ancients Rabadon's Deathcap Void Staff Rylai Crystal Scepter [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] Oh, and I don't see the virtue of Wit's End or Nashor's Tooth or Malady or whatever on her. With just Attack Speed Marks in my Rune Page, I had 1.0 attack speed at about level 12, at end game I had 1.2. That's really fast for an AP, and is more than enough to hit, move, hit, move, hit, move very cleanly and easily to keep up with your target.

[QUOTE=polarbear.;37124038][IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/IMG] for Vlad [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/cross.png[/img] for Vlad[/QUOTE] ftfy