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Quick question, who's screwed up when I get more kills than the guy I'm supporting as sona.

You.

[QUOTE=Jacko245;37168350]You.[/QUOTE] Fair enough, I should be less trigger happy with hymn of valour I suppose.

i hate sona for her ksing potential even worse than soraka

Blame everyone but yourself to be sure. But really, it depends. Was he just plain bad? Did you accidentally power chord at the wrong time or something?

People can dodge Kennen's Q, but you can't really dodge Kat's Q unless you wanna stay away from minions so it can't bounce.

[QUOTE=Flip pl;37168380]i hate sona for her ksing potential even worse than soraka[/QUOTE] "Please don't ks, please don't ks FUCK I KS'D" [QUOTE=Novangel;37168384]Blame everyone but yourself to be sure. But really, it depends. Was he just plain bad? Did you accidentally power chord at the wrong time or something?[/QUOTE] Accidental hymn of valour and I underestimate how much damage crescendo with hymn of valour does.

Yep, that's pretty much me with Leona half the time :v:

Soraka is worst for that. "I'll just throw down a few Qs, reduce their magic resist by a tonne. Oh fuck it's getting stronger shit triplekill.

[QUOTE=NoShogun;37168266]A resourceless damage skill? Idk if his shuriken is his Q but that's what I"m talking about. According to Phreak kat's bouncing blades are OP because they're a safe poke[/QUOTE] Kennen's q is a skillshot blocked by minions Katarina's bouncing blade can be throwing from behind her tower and the only way to avoid it is to just move far away from your minions Like I don't get how you can get that mixed up but if it's another reason to hate on kennen I suppose it doesn't matter if the pokes are entirely different with the only similarity being that they deal damage and are used by champions without mana

how is kennens q not a safe poke it has longer range than katas q and does more damage if used correctly (aka using W directly afterwards) not to mention he has his auto attack pokes that are just as safe as katas Q, which he can, once again, activate W ontop of and dealing even more damage.

[QUOTE=K0ppel;37168371]Fair enough, I should be less trigger happy with hymn of valour I suppose.[/QUOTE] I always underestimate her Q when it uses the power chord-- I tend to avoid it in the early game, and just use her E to slow the enemies down, to make sure my carry can definitely get them without me accidentally kill stealing.

[QUOTE=K0ppel;37168339]Quick question, who's screwed up when I get more kills than the guy I'm supporting as sona.[/QUOTE] The situation really depends, but I always go bursty supports such as taric, sona or blitzcrank incase my adc sucks pure nuts and I do have to finish off the kill. I usually give a carry 3 chances during laning phase and if they fuck up those chances in a blatantly obvious way, I will start to make sure the kill doesnt get away. Meaning if there is some chance of the enemy getting away, I dont wait for the carry to finish them, ks or not. Now if the carry obviously has the kill and theres no way the enemy is getting away I wont try to ks out of spite though. Just in the situations where I feel my carry wont get the job done I make sure they dont get away.

[QUOTE=Jacko245;37168561]I always underestimate her Q when it uses the power chord-- I tend to avoid it in the early game, and just use her E to slow the enemies down, to make sure my carry can definitely get them without me accidentally kill stealing.[/QUOTE] So would you suggest putting more points into celerity before valour early on?

[QUOTE=Megadick;37167052]Oh god that lore Hint at a new void champion?[/QUOTE] Eats thing and wields massive scythes, it's definitely Cho'gath.

Am I the only one who thinks these 'buffs' to Garen are going to cripple him?

Am I the only one scared of his fucking crit storm

[QUOTE=spanaren;37168503]how is kennens q not a safe poke it has longer range than katas q and does more damage if used correctly (aka using W directly afterwards) not to mention he has his auto attack pokes that are just as safe as katas Q, which he can, once again, activate W ontop of and dealing even more damage.[/QUOTE] Yeah let's just smash our skulls against a wall until we forget that one is a skillshot and is avoidable by simply standing behind your minions, and one is a targeted ability with a much much higher potential range where the only way to avoid it is to just keep away from your minions entirely Also yes the safest part of kennen's poke is his large autoattack range, q is unreliable and the people who max it are retarded, it's too bad Ziggs, Zyra, Anivia, Zilean, Annie, and Kog'Maw have larger autoattack ranges, and Ahri, Brand, Cassiopeia, Heimerdinger, Lulu, Lux, Malzahar, Ryze, and Xerath have the same range though so he's really not outclassing anyone with his range

Just played Tristana for the first time love the rocket jump and knock-back ult, wins 1v2 early game so easily.

Kat's Q bounces twice at level 1 up to 6 times at max level, is way shorter range, and until you pump points into it, it requires some chance that it'll hit. It also does reduced damage unless you're using W, although to be fair I don't see why you wouldn't. It also pushes the lane making it harder for your jungler to gank and easier for you to be ganked. It also has a base damage of 60 scaling all the way up to a whopping 200. yeah, perfectly safe powerful poke.

[QUOTE=Katsuie;37167464]where have you been[/QUOTE] I think they are changing it so the entire damage can crit, not just the base damage like it is now.

[QUOTE=NoShogun;37168266]A resourceless damage skill? Idk if his shuriken is his Q but that's what I"m talking about. According to Phreak kat's bouncing blades are OP because they're a safe poke[/QUOTE] The fact that they are resourceless isn't why he's OP lol

[QUOTE=Kondor58;37168815]The fact that they are resourceless isn't why he's OP lol[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about kennen and whether or not he's OP. I'm saying that his poking is just as safe as kat's but apparently Kat (who's also criminally underpowered at the same time according to Riot and the rework fans) is super OP in lane because her poke (the one that she needs to use to last hit and that pushes the lane and has low base damage) is just super OP.

[QUOTE=K0ppel;37168631]So would you suggest putting more points into celerity before valour early on?[/QUOTE] Can't remember what's called what, so I'll list it off this way... If i'm in duo queue with my partner (who usually plays the carry) I always ask him what he's wanting first, since the Q gives a bit more AD and the W gives a bit of health. Definitely do not ignore our Q at all in the very early phases; if you can get close enough to let off a Q power chord it is a really good poking attack in the level 1-5 mark (ish)... The W is only really useful for the small health boost. In my opinion, the power chord is bloody useless, and not worth investing the 'time' into getting close enough to throw the AA. tl;dr: the Q 'PC' is great for poking early on, and the E 'PC' is good for making sure the carry can catch the fleeing enemy. I normally level it W-Q-W-Q-E iirc... Maybe I didn't phrase this well enough-- Just reply with any questions you have if need be. In all honesty, I'm starting to love Taric a LOT more recently. I'm just stuck being support forever... but I love it!

[QUOTE=Flip pl;37168380]i hate sona for her ksing potential even worse than soraka[/QUOTE] Blitzcrank past level 6 nuff said.

[QUOTE=Jacko245;37168929]Can't remember what's called what, so I'll list it off this way... If i'm in duo queue with my partner (who usually plays the carry) I always ask him what he's wanting first, since the Q gives a bit more AD and the W gives a bit of health. Definitely do not ignore our Q at all in the very early phases; if you can get close enough to let off a Q power chord it is a really good poking attack in the level 1-5 mark (ish)... The W is only really useful for the small health boost. In my opinion, the power chord is bloody useless, and not worth investing the 'time' into getting close enough to throw the AA. tl;dr: the Q 'PC' is great for poking early on, and the E 'PC' is good for making sure the carry can catch the fleeing enemy. I normally level it W-Q-W-Q-E iirc... Maybe I didn't phrase this well enough-- Just reply with any questions you have if need be. In all honesty, I'm starting to love Taric a LOT more recently. I'm just stuck being support forever... but I love it![/QUOTE] You shouldn't discount the Q PC or the W PC. W does a flat 20% reduction in damage dealt, which is great during team fights since you'll be using W to keep your team healthy anyway. It's also useful when you know the enemy carry's about to start throwing damage around, or like if you can land it on Karthus or Fiddlesticks as they're ulting. Q PC still does a fair chunk of damage. It's not stupidly powerful, but it could be enough damage to make their carry back off a bit and let yours zone them, or as an extra bit of damage on their support just to make him sweat.

[QUOTE=RetaDepa;37168977]Blitzcrank past level 6 nuff said.[/QUOTE] but blitzcrank actually does a ton of damage with his burst

[QUOTE=Megadick;37168806]I think they are changing it so the entire damage can crit, not just the base damage like it is now.[/QUOTE] even if they aren't his crits will still be stronger, since more of Judgement's damage is in the scaling rather than the base

[QUOTE=Lijitsu;37169070]You shouldn't discount the Q PC or the W PC. W does a flat 20% reduction in damage dealt, which is great during team fights since you'll be using W to keep your team healthy anyway. It's also useful when you know the enemy carry's about to start throwing damage around, or like if you can land it on Karthus or Fiddlesticks as they're ulting. Q PC still does a fair chunk of damage. It's not stupidly powerful, but it could be enough damage to make their carry back off a bit and let yours zone them, or as an extra bit of damage on their support just to make him sweat.[/QUOTE] I definitely don't discount the Q PC; I'm just bloody careful when Im using it. Admittedly, I could give the W PC a bit more love, but I find the E PC a lot more useful in teamfight situations, just for the fact I can slow down advancing (or retreating) enemies.

[QUOTE=Megadick;37168806]I think they are changing it so the entire damage can crit, not just the base damage like it is now.[/QUOTE] it always was like that [editline]10th August 2012[/editline] I know because I used to main Garen when I was new to 30 [editline]10th August 2012[/editline] I always rushed brutalizer and Infinity Edge because top would always feed me spinning everyone to death in 2 seconds was fun