League of Legends V22 - Welcome to the League of Draven

[AmherstOren]

I want to replace all Teemo's lines with quotes from CholeraNinja's Teemo vid.

Would make the piece of shit 200% more fun to play.

[Radley]

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;36515580]Ziggs and Corki are only yordles I don't hate.[/QUOTE]

I don't think corki is a yordle.

[Blueplastic]

[QUOTE=Radley;36515918]I don't think corki is a yordle.[/QUOTE]

He is

[mixshifter]

[QUOTE=Radley;36515918]I don't think corki is a yordle.[/QUOTE]
he is

fuk u jewplastic

[Ninny]

corki, heimer, teemo, veigar, poppy, rumble, trist, ziggs, amumu, kennen and lulu are yordles

[Rainhorror]

Holy crap Orianna is so much fun, why don't more people play her?

[Blueplastic]

because underrated

[Noztra]

I love Kennen :v:

[EvilShadow777]

[QUOTE=Rainhorror;36516090]Holy crap Orianna is so much fun, why don't more people play her?[/QUOTE]
Because you don't 2-shot people effortlessly as her.

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=DTkach;36509771]Darius completely obliterates Fiora in lane. Once you get past riposte, just hit her with your w and her speed boost becomes useless, as you can just waltz out of melee range and she can't do shit.

Plus Darius' passive is ridiculously effective at dealing damage.[/QUOTE]

dairus has no attack speed

and his laning isn't as good as people make it to be

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fiora q negates darius q
fiora w > darius W by so fucking much (you come out on top by 300 damage)
fiora E > darius e in terms of damage
fiora R is roughly equal to darius R
passive for fiora allows her to actually sustain enough to negate darius's passive

[joost1120]

What the hell is a Yordle?

[EvilShadow777]

[QUOTE=joost1120;36516425]What the hell is a Yordle?[/QUOTE]
Gnomes/Hamsters/Smurfs and anything else under 3ft tall.

[DarkZero135]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36516285]dairus has no attack speed

and his laning isn't as good as people make it to be

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fiora q negates darius q
fiora w > darius W by so fucking much (you come out on top by 300 damage)
fiora E > darius e in terms of damage
[B]fiora R is roughly equal to darius R[/B]
passive for fiora allows her to actually sustain enough to negate darius's passive[/QUOTE]
ahaha no
just no

[AmherstOren]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36516285]dairus has no attack speed

and his laning isn't as good as people make it to be

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fiora q negates darius q
fiora w > darius W by so fucking much (you come out on top by 300 damage)
fiora E > darius e in terms of damage
fiora R is roughly equal to darius R
passive for fiora allows her to actually sustain enough to negate darius's passive[/QUOTE]

All you need to do is cripple her when she activates her speed boost, outlast that, pull her back with apprehend and just beat her to death. She can't deal anywhere near enough damage to come out on top.

And no, her passive does not negate Darius'. One stack of his passive? Sure, maybe. But any more than that? Hell no. And since Darius' mana costs are almost non-existent he can keep up the pressure/zone her to absolute shit by spamming Q.

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=DarkZero135;36516452]ahaha no
just no[/QUOTE]

ahahaha check your numbers before making yourself look like a dumbass

320(+2.4bonus AD)/0.7 physical with 40 armor: Fiora

320(+1.5bonus AD) true damage: Darius

and the fact that it procs lifesteal basically heals back much of the damage, so they're equal

[Ninny]

darius would rape fiora

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=DTkach;36516517]All you need to do is cripple her when she activates her speed boost, outlast that, pull her back with apprehend and just beat her to death. She can't deal anywhere near enough damage to come out on top.

And no, her passive does not negate Darius'. One stack of his passive? Sure, maybe. But any more than that? Hell no. And since Darius' mana costs are almost non-existent he can keep up the pressure/zone her to absolute shit by spamming Q.[/QUOTE]

are they going to be fighitng 24/7? no.

in the downtime of farming between the trades, fiora can heal back, while darius can't

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and pre-6, darius will basically have 1 damaging ability, since fiora can riposte darius's W, taking no damage and dealing 200 damage, while also having a damaging Q ability (less than darius Q), but her AS steroid negates that.

so fiora will have 3 abilities that will deal damage pre-6, while darius will have 1 (2 if you count passive, but that doesn't come close to the damage an active ability does)

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[QUOTE=DTkach;36516517]All you need to do is cripple her when she activates her speed boost, outlast that, pull her back with apprehend and just beat her to death. She can't deal anywhere near enough damage to come out on top.[/QUOTE]

Outlast her E?

are you serious

[Ninny]

dairus won

[Flubadoo]

fiora can riposte the cripple since it has a pretty obvious animation, and then darius is left with his Q and slow as fuck autoattacks to deal damage

while fiora has her 75% AS and 25 AD steroid

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oh yeah, and fiora's Q + W will deal more damage than darius's Q, so basically darius just has his passive and 5% armor pen while fiora has lane sustain as well as a 25 AD steroid and a large AS steroid that darius can't stop since she can block his W

and it's only a 2 second slow, so fiora can just use her Q to catch back up

[EvilShadow777]

As someone who regularly plays Fiora, in a 1v1 scenario Darius destroys her. Her passive is pretty much negated by his, he is able to hold her and she has no available escapes, and between their ults Darius' has a much higher damage potential if the two are forced into a fight. All of this said, Fiora is a champion much better at picking fights due to her distance closer and as such can come ahead of Darius if the team match-ups are in her favor.

[Ninny]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36516689]fiora can riposte the cripple since it has a pretty obvious animation, and then darius is left with his Q and slow as fuck autoattacks to deal damage

while fiora has her 75% AS and 25 AD steroid

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oh yeah, and fiora's Q + W will deal more damage than darius's Q, so basically darius just has his passive and 5% armor pen while fiora has lane sustain as well as a 25 AD steroid and a large AS steroid that darius can't stop since she can block his W

and it's only a 2 second slow, so fiora can just use her Q to catch back up[/QUOTE]

you make it sound like everyone plays the champions exactly the same and that each fight plays out exactly the same lol

[alxnotorious]

[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76376868/lol_fuckingrandoms.png[/img]

fmlfmlfml

[Zinayzen]

didn't they decrease orianna's range a bunch

i used to play her a lot, but not much anymore

i'd rather malphite mid than orianna tbh

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;36516879]you make it sound like everyone plays the champions exactly the same and that each fight plays out exactly the same lol[/QUOTE]

you can't deny that fiora has many more abilities at her disposal in an all out fight

nor that she can sustain between fights, while darius can harass between fights

[EvilShadow777]

[QUOTE=Zinayzen;36516958]didn't they decrease orianna's range a bunch

i used to play her a lot, but not much anymore

i'd rather malphite mid than orianna tbh[/QUOTE]
They decreased her range ages ago because any retard could pick her up and zone out the enemy mid with near no risk. She was OP back then. Now she's able to trade and maintain aggression in lane well, but she does put herself at risk doing so.

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[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36516992]you can't deny that fiora has many more abilities at her disposal in an all out fight

nor that she can sustain between fights, while darius can harass between fights[/QUOTE]
Fiora's sustain isn't innate. If you're talking about that barely noticeable passive then I laugh at you. She sustains herself with her dps + lifesteal, the passive is almost non-factor.

Also Fiora and Darius have about the same level of utility. Darius has a hook and Fiora has a dash, both serve effectively the same purpose. Darius has a slow while Fiora has a movespeed steroid. Besides that Fiora has riposte which only really has the purpose of helping her in damage trades. Darius' Q is just raw damage.

I'd like you to define "all out" fight, because if you're talking 1v1 between Darius and Fiora with all their abilities, Darius should win in most situations assuming the players are of equal skill level. If you're talking about teamfights then your point has more merit.

[papaya]

flubadoo is clearly just trying to sleep with fiora

[spii0]

[QUOTE=Zinayzen;36516958]didn't they decrease orianna's range a bunch

i used to play her a lot, but not much anymore

i'd rather malphite mid than orianna tbh[/QUOTE]

Command: Attack:

Mana cost increased to 50/55/60/65/70 from 40/45/50/55/60.
Range reduced to 800 from 900.

Command: Attack:

cast range increased to 825 from 800

Overall her ball range got reduced by 8.35%, 75 range

Her autoattack range got nerfed from 550 to 525 too so it's now the same as Twisted Fate's

[Zinayzen]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/MpsoJ.jpg[/img]

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and they thought i'd be terrible

ha

[Flubadoo]

[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;36517015]They decreased her range ages ago because any retard could pick her up and zone out the enemy mid with near no risk. She was OP back then. Now she's able to trade and maintain aggression in lane well, but she does put herself at risk doing so.

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Fiora's sustain isn't innate. If you're talking about that barely noticeable passive then I laugh at you. She sustains herself with her dps + lifesteal, the passive is almost non-factor.

Also Fiora and Darius have about the same level of utility. Darius has a hook and Fiora has a dash, both serve effectively the same purpose. Darius has a slow while Fiora has a movespeed steroid. Besides that Fiora has riposte which only really has the purpose of helping her in damage trades. Darius' Q is just raw damage.

I'd like you to define "all out" fight, because if you're talking 1v1 between Darius and Fiora with all their abilities, Darius should win in most situations assuming the players are of equal skill level. If you're talking about teamfights then your point has more merit.[/QUOTE]

it depends on how bad each of them are

if darius takes the brunt of her E, then he'll lose 100%, but if either acts like an idiot, they'll lose a trade, but fiora has more damage

[AmherstOren]

[QUOTE=Flubadoo;36516689]fiora can riposte the cripple since it has a pretty obvious animation, and then darius is left with his Q and slow as fuck autoattacks to deal damage

while fiora has her 75% AS and 25 AD steroid

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oh yeah, and fiora's Q + W will deal more damage than darius's Q, so basically darius just has his passive and 5% armor pen while fiora has lane sustain as well as a 25 AD steroid and a large AS steroid that darius can't stop since she can block his W

and it's only a 2 second slow, so fiora can just use her Q to catch back up[/QUOTE]
Most Fioras will just waste the riposte right away. Even if they hold back, you can just smack her a few times and act like you won't use your W. And his W immediately resets his attack timer, so its really hard to pinpoint mid-fight when to use riposte.

So you just W her mid-boost, walk away (she can use Q to chase but it won't let her get more than one attack off), apprehend her back if you wish to commit, and proceed to wreck her shit.